Gene Frenkle Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Yes, and no. There are already laws on the books that deal with this. Enforcing those laws is another matter. And just like that, a slightly different iteration of the technology pops up to circumvent your control. Or the company moves somewhere outside of your control. Or an entirely different thing you never could have dreamed of pops up to replace it. 2 minutes ago, GG said: Who's checking the lies? They can't have it both ways, either they are information platforms or content providers. They're being cute by straddling the existing regulations governing online services & media. They've just invited themselves to more regulation to address that pesky middle ground. I don't know. It's unfolding before our eyes.
GG Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: And just like that, a slightly different iteration of the technology pops up to circumvent your control. Or the company moves somewhere outside of your control. Or an entirely different thing you never could have dreamed of pops up to replace it. I don't know. It's unfolding before our eyes. It is, and they brought this upon themselves. Once they started picking sides in the political arena, they opened themselves up for more severe actions. 2 1
B-Man Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 COLLUSION: Twitter’s Trump ‘Fact Check’ Does Not Disclose Company Partnered with Groups Pushing Mail-In Ballots. 1 1
Doc Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Gene Frenkle said: Of course you do. Yup. I don't see why they'd want Trump over a patsy like Hilly. That "reset" button (that really said "recharge") stunt made her look like a fool.
Gene Frenkle Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, GG said: It is, and they brought this upon themselves. Once they started picking sides in the political arena, they opened themselves up for more severe actions. I'd say it's necessary and inevitable and it has little to do with Twitter specifically.
GG Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: I'd say it's necessary and inevitable and it has little to do with Twitter specifically. I don't know why you would say that. They are the dominant provider of short form text dissemination, like Google is dominant is search & related apps and Facebook in social media. All turned from information aggregators into gatekeepers & editors. The rules put in place in the '90s & early '00s no longer apply. 1
Chef Jim Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Gene Frenkle said: Of course you do. Which DR did a good job explaining why which you conveniently ignored.
B-Man Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 Media Becomes Triggered After Kayleigh McEnany Fact Checks Twitter Over Mail-In Ballot Fraud Claims More at the link: https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2020/05/27/media-becomes-triggered-after-kayleigh-mcenany-fact-checks-twitter-over-mail-in-ballot-fraud-claims/ 2
B-Man Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 Kellyanne Conway Zeroes in on Why Voters Shouldn’t Trust Twitter’s Fact Checks on Anyone Twitter’s pathetic attempt at “fact checking” President Trump’s tweets about mail-in ballot voting being ripe for fraud has sparked major backlash among conservatives who, in turn, have fact checked Twitter’s erroneous claim that Trump’s remarks were “unsubstantiated.” Trump himself has pushed back, promising “big action to follow!” after alleging that “Twitter has now shown that everything we have been saying about them (and their other compatriots) is correct.” White House counselor Kellyanne Conway appeared on Fox and Friends this morning to discuss the developing situation, and during the interview, she got to the heart of the matter as to why conservatives and independent voters don’t trust and should not trust Twitter to fact check anyone – not just because Twitter’s own so-called “head of integrity” has frequently bashed Trump, but also because of who they rely on for their fact checks: “These people have got nothing important right over the last three years, beginning with the very election where they were relying on their own data.” “I have a treasure trove of peoples’ articles of how Hillary Clinton wasn’t even saying Donald Trump’s name, Barack Obama has hardly [uttered] Hillary Clinton’s name because they all thought that the election was decided long before that,” Conway continued. “Why? Because there’s very little respect for democracy.” […] Conway said that the president has given a voice to the voiceless on his social media accounts. “Fact-check: Over 90 percent of mainstream media reportedly vote for the Democratic presidential candidate. So many conservatives and many non-liberals and many non-voters feel like they have a platform on social media that allows them, for free, to express themselves,” she argued. “I mean, they are relying upon the same people who attack him all day long to ‘fact-check’ him,” Conway added.
B-Man Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 Twitter Fact Checks Trump’s Mail-In Ballots Tweet, Gets Fact-Checked Back The biggest problem with Twitter's fact check, aside from the fact that it singles out Trump, is the fact that there is indeed evidence that mail-in ballots can lead to voter fraud. Twitter Official In Charge of Fact Checking ‘Site Integrity’ Has a History of Anti-Trump, Anti-GOP Posts .
Gene Frenkle Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 3 hours ago, Chef Jim said: Which DR did a good job explaining why which you conveniently ignored. It's not interesting. Like at all. That's no offense to DR even. I think I care more about some random dude's fantasy football team than I do about the argument as to why Russia wanted Hillary to win. I'm still not convinced that Trump himself even wanted to win in the first place. It just doesn't matter.
Gene Frenkle Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 (edited) Well, redstate.com has had their say. How about some equal time for realclearpolitics? Sweet fancy Moses! So Trump himself gets his dick slapped by Twitter and his answer, of course, is to use all of his power to protect his pulpit of lies. You literally can't make this stuff up. I've got my popcorn ready! Edited May 27, 2020 by Gene Frenkle
Deranged Rhino Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene Frenkle said: It's not interesting. Like at all. That's no offense to DR even. I think I care more about some random dude's fantasy football team than I do about the argument as to why Russia wanted Hillary to win. I'm still not convinced that Trump himself even wanted to win in the first place. It just doesn't matter. No offense taken, no worries. But wouldn't you agree that it matters that the bulk of the establishment media lied about Trump/Russia, because the CIA director lied about it to them? That's a fact now, not speculation. Beyond partisanship, shouldn't it matter that there was an active effort, on behalf of the Central Intelligence Agency and an outgoing administration, to deceive the American public at large in order to subvert the outcome of an otherwise legal election? Think of all the division it caused. All the wasted time, money, and effort spent by the entire government on something that was never real.
Chef Jim Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: It's not interesting. Like at all. That's no offense to DR even. I think I care more about some random dude's fantasy football team than I do about the argument as to why Russia wanted Hillary to win. I'm still not convinced that Trump himself even wanted to win in the first place. It just doesn't matter. I don't think he wanted to either. I imagine he went to bed and woke up to....I won??? WTF???
B-Man Posted May 27, 2020 Posted May 27, 2020 Vox: These Democratic Billionaires Are Trying To Help Biden Win The Digital Campaign Today, Vox has an interesting story on a group of four Democratic billionaires who are looking to help the Biden campaign succeed in the 2020 election. The four in question are, “LinkedIn founder Reid Hoffman, Facebook co-founder Dustin Moskovitz, philanthropist and Steve Jobs’s widow Laurene Powell Jobs, and former Google CEO Eric Schmidt.” But while they have the money and the tech savvy to potentially help Biden, their attempts to outsource this critical part of the campaign isn’t always winning friends inside the existing party structure. “My problem is when Silicon Valley folks think that they know how to do our jobs better. I would never walk into Google or anywhere else and say, ‘Your model sucks,’” Jane Kleeb, the chair of the Nebraska Democratic Party, told Recode. “I don’t second-guess them, and I’m asking them not to second-guess us.” Kleeb and others in Democratic politics have been particularly incensed by a political startup that Hoffman has invested about $18 million, his single-biggest bet this cycle, in called Alloy. The startup is attempting to build a warehouse to store the data that various progressive groups collect on voters and use it to try to get them to the polls… But Alloy, despite all its promises to revitalize the left’s voter file, has had an at-times frosty relationship with party officials like Kleeb, who have their own voter file that they’d prefer to improve rather than circumvent. And some of the party’s most senior digital operatives consider Alloy to be an underachievement, saying that it has produced few tangible accomplishments, no publicly announced clients, and, most importantly, squandered significant time and money as it struggled to figure out its role in Democratic politics. {snip} Acronym claims their fake newspapers are transparent about their progressive partisanship but as I pointed out last year, that’s not really true. What Acronym is creating and what Hoffman is funding is more accurately termed propaganda. The story closes by noting that Hoffman was a featured guest last week on a conference call set up by the Biden campaign. I wonder how all of the Bernie Sanders fans being asked to vote for Biden feel about having billionaires run their own private Biden campaign. More at the link: https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/05/27/vox-democratic-billionaires-trying-help-biden-win-digital-campaign/ 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Hmm... this could be interesting. Good it's about damned time.
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 28, 2020 Posted May 28, 2020 This will go nowhere, but it is pretty clear that social media wants to be a platform, not a publisher. 2
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