The Bills did better by Manuel in year 1

[Jpsredemption]

They draft Manuel and follow that up with Woods in round 2 and Goodwin in round 3. Give your young QB a chance to grow with young weapons. They also had an offensive line that was competent under Gailey and 2 running backs that were very good.

 

This year they draft Allen, had no 2nd round picks with that move, trade the pick at the top of round 3 so they can move up for a LB. They then use their other 3rd round pick on a DT and wait until round 6 to draft a gadget receiver. O line in shambles and pick a 30 year old Chris Ivory to complement McCoy.

 

They should have put McDermotts defensive ego aside and gotten this kid some targets to grow with and a line to block for when he eventually plays THIS SEASON.

[Bangarang]

We drafted Zay Jones and traded for Kelvin Benjamin. I’m confident they will continue adding more weapons on offense to put around Allen.

 

Do you people think every need can be addressed in a single offseason? 

[White Linen]

11 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said:

They draft Manuel and follow that up with Woods in round 2 and Goodwin in round 3. Give your young QB a chance to grow with young weapons. They also had an offensive line that was competent under Gailey and 2 running backs that were very good.

 

This year they draft Allen, had no 2nd round picks with that move, trade the pick at the top of round 3 so they can move up for a LB. They then use their other 3rd round pick on a DT and wait until round 6 to draft a gadget receiver. O line in shambles and pick a 30 year old Chris Ivory to complement McCoy.

 

They should have put McDermotts defensive ego aside and gotten this kid some targets to grow with and a line to block for when he eventually plays THIS SEASON.

 

And we're stuck with this coach and GM because you can tell the owner really really likes them.  Oh no, what are we gonna do?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

13 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

Do you people think every need can be addressed in a single offseason? 

 

Is that a rhetorical question?

 

[teef]

the next few days are going to be amazing.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, teef said:

the next few days are going to be amazing.

 

Right?

 

Someone commented that if this was a regular season loss, people would be committing hari kiri. I commented that we could only hope that was the case.

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

1 minute ago, joesixpack said:

 

Right?

 

Someone commented that if this was a regular season loss, people would be committing hari kiri. I commented that we could only hope that was the case.

 

Nothing like 'thinning out the herd'...?

[Solomon Grundy]

32 minutes ago, Jpsredemption said:

They draft Manuel and follow that up with Woods in round 2 and Goodwin in round 3. Give your young QB a chance to grow with young weapons. They also had an offensive line that was competent under Gailey and 2 running backs that were very good.

 

This year they draft Allen, had no 2nd round picks with that move, trade the pick at the top of round 3 so they can move up for a LB. They then use their other 3rd round pick on a DT and wait until round 6 to draft a gadget receiver. O line in shambles and pick a 30 year old Chris Ivory to complement McCoy.

 

They should have put McDermotts defensive ego aside and gotten this kid some targets to grow with and a line to block for when he eventually plays THIS SEASON.

But I heard Whaley sucked

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

25 minutes ago, the skycap said:

But I heard Whaley sucked

 

Because he did. Just because a handful of football illiterates say otherwise doesn't make it so.

 

[Cripple Creek]

1 hour ago, Jpsredemption said:

They draft Manuel and follow that up with Woods in round 2 and Goodwin in round 3. Give your young QB a chance to grow with young weapons. They also had an offensive line that was competent under Gailey and 2 running backs that were very good.

 

This year they draft Allen, had no 2nd round picks with that move, trade the pick at the top of round 3 so they can move up for a LB. They then use their other 3rd round pick on a DT and wait until round 6 to draft a gadget receiver. O line in shambles and pick a 30 year old Chris Ivory to complement McCoy.

 

They should have put McDermotts defensive ego aside and gotten this kid some targets to grow with and a line to block for when he eventually plays THIS SEASON.

You’re right. Every hole should have been plugged this past offseason. McDermott is a witch. Burn him I say!!! Burn him!!! ? 

[ddaryl]

WR is not an issue for us IMO, and Incognito had a deal in place but reneged, and that would of not mattered as he has clearly gone off the rails. Woods was unfortunate... but I do agree, since my hindsight is 20/20, we really need quality interior OL / C

43 minutes ago, the skycap said:

But I heard Whaley sucked

 

He traded up for Watkins when Mack was sitting there. Now tell me again how great Whaley was for us..

Edited August 27, 2018 by ddaryl

[JinxedBill1]

Zany Jones, Kerley, Benjamin, Coleman, Streater, and others need to get open.  

[fridge]

If you’re going to make this argument, at least point the Trent Murphy signing. 

[VADC Bills]

19 minutes ago, JinxedBill1 said:

Zany Jones, Kerley, Benjamin, Coleman, Streater, and others need to get open.  

Maybe we keep Woods and Goodwin and move on from there.

I don't think Beane respected the talent that was here when he arrived.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

8 minutes ago, VADC Bills said:

 

I don't think Beane respected the talent that was here when he arrived.

 

Woods was a free agent and chose to leave.

 

And he didn't respect guys like Watkins and Dareus for good reason.

 

[corta765]

1 hour ago, Bangarang said:

We drafted Zay Jones and traded for Kelvin Benjamin. I’m confident they will continue adding more weapons on offense to put around Allen.

 

Do you people think every need can be addressed in a single offseason? 

 

No but I am more concerned that they lost two pro bowl caliber O-Line players and they did nothing to bring in a solid veteran. That for all of the QB's is far more erroneous in my eyes.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

8 minutes ago, corta765 said:

 

No but I am more concerned that they lost two pro bowl caliber O-Line players and they did nothing to bring in a solid veteran. That for all of the QB's is far more erroneous in my eyes.

 

Only one (Wood) was foreseen. The other (Incognito) happened AFTER the draft, so I'm not sure what it was you expected him to do. Couldn't draft a replacement for a guy who you didn't know was going to lose his damned mind. And since FA is BEFORE the draft, that wasn't really an answer either.

 

[corta765]

32 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

Only one (Wood) was foreseen. The other (Incognito) happened AFTER the draft, so I'm not sure what it was you expected him to do. Couldn't draft a replacement for a guy who you didn't know was going to lose his damned mind. And since FA is BEFORE the draft, that wasn't really an answer either.

 

 

It's the GM's job to fix those type of holes. Last year he knew trading Watkins/Darby he had to replace both and did. Sitting idle and hoping for the best isn't going to cut it.

[Jpsredemption]

50 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

Woods was a free agent and chose to leave.

 

And he didn't respect guys like Watkins and Dareus for good reason.

 

Not sure what Watkins did wrong aside from injuries he couldn't help and drawing attention that no receive on this roster can command.

[HappyDays]

Offensive line is the hardest position to fill in the NFL right now other than QB. Our two best offensive linemen from last year retired. It's just bad luck. If there's one thing I'd criticize McBeane for it's that they've been too willing to trade up in the draft (Jones, Dawkins, Edmunds) which left them with less picks to draft line depth.