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  On 8/27/2018 at 1:13 AM, LSHMEAB said:

I think we can safely say that Republicans have officially lost the moral high ground.

 

That's not a bad thing. It never really made sense in the first place. A darwinian approach to governance is diametrically opposed to Christian values. Just seems as though that particular juxtaposition has crossed the Rubicon of plausibility.

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When did they ever have the moral high ground? Both parties are full of immoral jackwagons.

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RIP John McCain. I celebrate and commend you for your military service. Other than that, I'd have preferred that you lost your Senate seat to a real conservative or at least a moderate Republican rather than to die.

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Definitely mixed feelings on McCain.  He was a good family man and I appreciate his military service.

 

However  he should have resigned after the Keating Five scandal.  I think he got away with a crime because Congress wasn't about to prosecute five well known members of their small fraternity. 

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  On 8/27/2018 at 1:13 AM, LSHMEAB said:

I think we can safely say that Republicans have officially lost the moral high ground.

 

That's not a bad thing. It never really made sense in the first place. A darwinian approach to governance is diametrically opposed to Christian values. Just seems as though that particular juxtaposition has crossed the Rubicon of plausibility.

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Remember when Jesus said "kill or imprison all who refuse to do as I say?" I don't remember which verse it is, but it's my favorite.

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  On 8/27/2018 at 12:46 PM, Rob's House said:

Remember when Jesus said "kill or imprison all who refuse to do as I say?" I don't remember which verse it is, but it's my favorite.

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"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and render unto God what is God's... or die mother!@#$er!"

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  On 8/27/2018 at 2:06 PM, Koko78 said:

 

"Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and render unto God what is God's... or die mother!@#$er!"

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Additions notwithstanding, that's one of the most misinterpreted passages in the Bible.

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  On 8/27/2018 at 3:11 PM, joesixpack said:

 

How so? It's pretty straightforward.

 

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Not at all.

 

To understand the passage you need to understand the history of Roman currency, which leads directly to why Jesus asked the question he did in the manner of a rabbinical approach to teaching.

 

I made a lengthy post about it on the old board, and am afraid it might be lost. 

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  On 8/27/2018 at 3:11 PM, joesixpack said:

 

How so? It's pretty straightforward.

 

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It isn't as straightforward as it seems, because it is so often taken out of context.

The Pharisees were trying to get rid of Jesus, who was threatening their supremacy and livelihood, so they tried to trick him and they asked him the question if he thought the Jews should pay Roman taxes.

 

If he answered that the Jews should not pay taxes, he would incur the wrath of the Roman occupiers. and if he suggested that they should, he would alienate his rapidly growing Jewish followers.

So he asked them to show him a coin they were talking about.

They pulled out a denarious, the Roman coin at the time.

He asked them whose image was on it, and they replied "Caesar's."

 

As Pharisees, they knew full well that using such a coin with an image on it was sinful, per their religion, yet here they were, the supposed elite, violating their own law.

It's one of the many times during that week he exposes the religious and temple elite as complete hypocrites.

 

 

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  On 8/27/2018 at 12:46 PM, Rob's House said:

Remember when Jesus said "kill or imprison all who refuse to do as I say?" I don't remember which verse it is, but it's my favorite.

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Is that how you judge people? Comparing them to Jesus? Kinda seems like a great way to determine that everybody sucks. 

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  On 8/27/2018 at 3:30 PM, sherpa said:

 

It isn't as straightforward as it seems, because it is so often taken out of context.

The Pharisees were trying to get rid of Jesus, who was threatening their supremacy and livelihood, so they tried to trick him and they asked him the question if he thought the Jews should pay Roman taxes.

 

If he answered that the Jews should not pay taxes, he would incur the wrath of the Roman occupiers. and if he suggested that they should, he would alienate his rapidly growing Jewish followers.

So he asked them to show him a coin they were talking about.

They pulled out a denarious, the Roman coin at the time.

He asked them whose image was on it, and they replied "Caesar's."

 

As Pharisees, they knew full well that using such a coin with an image on it was sinful, per their religion, yet here they were, the supposed elite, violating their own law.

It's one of the many times during that week he exposes the religious and temple elite as complete hypocrites.

 

 

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I know what the passage means. I went through 15 years of biblical indoctrination in a bible fellowship church.

 

My point was that if someone read the entire chapter from which that verse is taken, his meaning becomes pretty evident.

 

  On 8/27/2018 at 3:33 PM, ALF said:

 I don't like Trump

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You don't say.

 

Color me shocked.

 

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