3rdnlng Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) Take it easy on Gleeful Gator guys. Here's a picture of him in uniform: Edited September 5, 2018 by 3rdnlng
Tiberius Posted September 5, 2018 Author Posted September 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, The_Dude said: You did military things? I was in the Air Force from 85-89, not sure if that's military, lol!
Deranged Rhino Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, The_Dude said: You shouldn't be allowed to vote. Why?
Tiberius Posted September 5, 2018 Author Posted September 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Take it easy on Gleeful Gator guys. Here's a picture of him in uniform: I was in when that happened! I actually use to impress people by doing impersonations of Dukakis! Ah, the good old days. I voted for Bush that time
The_Dude Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: I was in the Air Force from 85-89, not sure if that's military, lol! Old guy! I was born in 84.
Tiberius Posted September 5, 2018 Author Posted September 5, 2018 Just now, The_Dude said: Old guy! I was born in 84. LOL!! See, I was protecting your freedom...sort of!
The_Dude Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: LOL!! See, I was protecting your freedom...sort of! My first duty station was Ft. Polk. I don't know why but there were AF guys there. I hated them. Why? Money. We lived in these AWFUL barracks. Like probably made during Nam and never upgraded. I believe they're gone now -- in fact I think they are. Anyways, the AF guys lived in better barracks, but the AF gave them an additional allowance for 'substandard living' because they lived in better barracks that we did. I'd come to find out that'd be par for the course during my tenure.
Deranged Rhino Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, The_Dude said: You shouldn't be allowed to vote. Why?
Tiberius Posted September 5, 2018 Author Posted September 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, The_Dude said: My first duty station was Ft. Polk. I don't know why but there were AF guys there. I hated them. Why? Money. We lived in these AWFUL barracks. Like probably made during Nam and never upgraded. I believe they're gone now -- in fact I think they are. Anyways, the AF guys lived in better barracks, but the AF gave them an additional allowance for 'substandard living' because they lived in better barracks that we did. I'd come to find out that'd be par for the course during my tenure. Yes, and our chow halls were amazing! The other services loved coming over and eating on our base. I weighed 149 pounds in June of 1985 and 6 foot tall and left thirty pounds heavier in '89. I'd eat two breakfasts, early lunch, go to eat in evening, hit gym and eat again! I probably eat about 1/4 as much now as I did then. I was at Langley most of the time.
The_Dude Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: Yes, and our chow halls were amazing! The other services loved coming over and eating on our base. I weighed 149 pounds in June of 1985 and 6 foot tall and left thirty pounds heavier in '89. I'd eat two breakfasts, early lunch, go to eat in evening, hit gym and eat again! I probably eat about 1/4 as much now as I did then. I was at Langley most of the time. 149? Holy smokes! at 6'! Jesus. I'm 5'7" and I looked like a holocaust victim in Iraq when I caught dysentery and I got down to 129. It was bad. I mean I was sick-skinny and wasn't much lighter than you! Wow. 1
Koko78 Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, The_Dude said: I will not address any of those questions until somebody can explain to me how willful genocide is "economics." Now answer the questions. 1 2
Deranged Rhino Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Koko78 said: Now answer the questions. The Dude doesn't answer questions. He makes baseless claims that most laugh at the ignorance of, then runs off.
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Now answer the questions. Given the rest of your post, I'd have gone with this: 1
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Now answer the questions. He can't answer the questions. His entire claim, namely that "willful genocide isn't economics", is a special pleading fallacy. It's an indefensible point, which is why Captain Stolen Valor has wrapped himself in the flag, and fled. Edited September 5, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker
3rdnlng Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 I think it's wrong to call The_Dude less than honorable while referring to his military service. Unless he left the service with something less than an honorable discharge he deserves our respect for that service. On the other hand, the guy who he is a wingman for (Gleeful Gator) most likely left the service with a discharge too, a discharge that he is still taking medicine for.
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I think it's wrong to call The_Dude less than honorable while referring to his military service. Unless he left the service with something less than an honorable discharge he deserves our respect for that service. On the other hand, the guy who he is a wingman for (Gleeful Gator) most likely left the service with a discharge too, a discharge that he is still taking medicine for. I don't believe he served, but rather is a classic case of stolen valor. The men and women I know who have served have never once wrapped intellectual cowardice in the flag in order to deflect criticisms of their poorly thought out positions. Many of us have argued deeply and dearly held positions here: you and I for example. Many of PPPs denizens have served: you for example. Those exchanges have been heated at times. But never once have you refused to defend and intellectual position, whether you were right or wrong, by wrapping yourself in the flag and making aspersions about the character of others based on yours, or others decision to serve. That is the mark of a coward, not the mark of a soldier; and The_Dude, henceforth known as Captain Stolen Valor (I grant him the rank of Captain in the fake military), is a coward. Edited September 5, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker
/dev/null Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: I was in the Air Force from 85-89, not sure if that's military, lol! After a brief stint in the Chair Force you've been living in your mom's basement for 30 years? 1
The_Dude Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 55 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Now answer the questions. Ok, argument aside -- I HATE THAT MOVIE. There were no kilts then. William Wallace didn't wear a kilt. Edward I wasn't a bad dude, I think he ruled well, and Robert the Bruce waaaay more important than William Wallace. I loved that movie till I found all that out. If you're interested Netflix has an upcoming series on Robert the Bruce coming out and it looks amazing. Hopefully it's as well done as The Last Kingdom.
Bray Wyatt Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I don't believe he served, but rather is a classic case of stolen valor. The men and women I know who have served have never once wrapped intellectual cowardice in the flag in order to deflect criticisms of their poorly thought out positions. Many of us have argued deeply and dearly held positions here: you and I for example. Many of PPPs denizens have served: you for example. Those exchanges have been heated at times. But never once have you refused to defend and intellectual position, whether you were right or wrong, by wrapping yourself in the flag and making aspersions about the character of others based on yours, or others decision to serve. That is the mark of a coward, not the mark of a soldier; and The_Dude, henceforth known as Captain Stolen Valor (I grant him the rank of Captain in the fake military), is a coward. Not getting into the debate on whether he is stolen valor or not, but the bolded there reminded me of a george carlin skit where he in on the airplane and they refer to the pilot as a captain. "the captain has asked....." More **** from the bogus captain (george says on an aside), so the bolded made me laugh : )
3rdnlng Posted September 5, 2018 Posted September 5, 2018 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: I don't believe he served. The men and women I know who have served have never once wrapped intellectual cowardice in the flag in order to deflect criticisms of their poorly thought out positions. Many of us have argued deeply and dearly held positions here, you and I for example. Many of PPPs denizens have served, you for example. Those exchanges have been heated at times. But never once have you refused to defend and intellectual position, whether you were right or wrong, by wrapping yourself in the flag and making aspersions about the character of others based on yours, or others decision to serve. That is the mark of a coward, not the mark of a soldier; and The_Dude is a coward. My guess is that he served. I can respect that. What I don't respect is his disdain for those that haven't served. It is pretty obvious to me that he misses the service immensely and would like nothing better than to return to his Eugene Tackleberry persona. Killing is a terrible thing to do. In war it can be euphoric in the moment realizing that you've managed to live another day. In subsequent reflection the person having done the killing normally and naturally might feel remorse and/or sadness and a regret that it may have been necessary. The_Dude seems to revel in the killing, years after he was involved. He's got issues that we aren't going to resolve for him, and those issues aren't ones that he seems to want to solve himself.
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