Lacanfora: Bills have reached out to Raiders about Khalil Mack trade

[oldmanfan]

I think you have to have a conversation.  But until I saw other reports indicating the Bills may be interested, I pretty much wrote off the OP.  Because it was, after all, LaCanfora.

[SoCal Deek]

10 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Mack already stated Buffalo is his city.

Wow...ya don’t hear THAT very often! Has a nice ring to it.

[jimmy10]

I just googled "khalil mack watkins stole my city" and the fifth hit is: 

 

On 7/26/2018 at 5:02 PM, YoloinOhio said: “Sammy Watkins stole my city”.

[papazoid]

9 hours ago, jimmy10 said:

mesmerizing

[dpberr]

If Mack communicated that he'd want to play for the Bills, the Bills would be foolish in not trying to swing a deal.  

[ddaryl]

9 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Why would they even want one of the guys we are talking about? Just give them a 1st and a 2nd. The Raiders don’t want a rotational lineman for an elite defender. Gruden will want 2 of his own hand picked players.

 

They'll need a player for this year to replace Mack add depth... I could see them wanting a player now and a next years 1st plus more.

[MAJBobby]

1st, 3rd, 5th and 100M contract gets it done. 

 

If not move on. 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

1st, 3rd, 5th and 100M contract gets it done. 

 

If not move on. 

 

 

Throw in free Elmo’s wings for life 

[ddaryl]

Just now, YoloinOhio said:

Throw in free Elmo’s wings for life 

 

But the free wings for life does not go into affect until he retires or moves on from Buffalo.. Can't slow the man down in his prime. 

[Canadian Bills Fan]

Does anyone have a link to where Mack said Buffalo is his city?

[Go-Bills]

He was in Buffalo recently, just adds to the intreague!!! will be interesting to follow. Still think it's a stretch though.

[Royale with Cheese]

2 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

Does anyone have a link to where Mack said Buffalo is his city?

 

https://buffalonews.com/2016/12/01/khalil-mack-jokes-sammy-watkins-stole-city-2014-draft-bills-raiders/

[JaCrispy]

2 minutes ago, ddaryl said:

 

But the free wings for life does not go into affect until he retires or moves on from Buffalo.. Can't slow the man down in his prime. 

Wouldn’t  Mack just request a trade out of Buffalo then- just to get his free wings? I don’t think the team should be offering any incentive for him to leave town, wings or no wings...it’s just too risky.

[Soda Popinski]

We better start asking the hard hitting questions, like what jersey number is he going to wear and when can i buy one from the bills shop.

[bobobonators]

Is anyone tracking Pegula’s plane?

[Bing Bong]

10 hours ago, billspro said:

Mack would be a process guy. With that contract it would be hard to offer a 1st though.

Honestly what the hell is a process guy. He's just a reallly really good player I wish we had been able to pull off a trade for

[Canadian Bills Fan]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

https://buffalonews.com/2016/12/01/khalil-mack-jokes-sammy-watkins-stole-city-2014-draft-bills-raiders/

 

 

Thanks!

[SouthNYfan]

2 hours ago, mannc said:

The Cooks trade actually supports my argument.

 

1.  Edge rusher is not “just below QB” in positional value.  The drop off is huge.  If qb is 10, edge is 3 or 4, even if edge is the second most valuable, which it’s not.  (That  would be WR.)

 

2.  Cooks has averaged over 1100 yds receiving the last 3 seasons.  

 

3.  Cooks turns 25 next month.  Mack turns 28 in February.  That matters.

 

4. Cooks signed a five-year extension with only $20 million guaranteed.  Mack will be looking for around $60 million guaranteed, if not more.

 

5.  You are wrong about what the Rams gave up for Cooks.  They gave up less than 23 overall.  They got Cooks and NE’s 4th round pick for 23 overall and their 6th rounder.  And at the time they made the trade, the Rams knew they were only giving up 23 overall.  The Bills would be giving up what might well be a top 10 overall pick in a draft packed with impact d-linemen and edge rushers.  Those guys will be 21-years old, and on cheap contracts through 2022.

 

6.  I think you are overestimating the number of teams seriously interested in trading for Mack.  I think it’s probably only a couple.

 

Conclusion:  The Raiders will be lucky to get someone’s 2019 first round pick for Mack, and the Bills might actually be overpaying by giving them just next year’s first.  I think Beane might get it done for a second and a player like Shaq.

 

One other conclusion:  Jon Gruden is an idiot,

 

I agree with all of it except for#1 

Teams value edge rushers very much

If a QB is 10/10 value then edge rush/dline rush, oline, cb, wr are all valued probably 6-7/10 if they are elite.

The top paid NFL players after QBs reflect this.

The top contracts are littered with CBs, "sack" specialists, WRs and oline studs.

 

It doesn't change your point overall, although cooks is not as dominant at his position as Mack is at his, so I think Mack will fetch and earn more.

[Freddie's Dead]

Take out a 2nd mortgage on the Cap, frack a few more wells, our entire slate of 2019 draft picks, whatever it takes, but GIT R DUN!!  Back up the Brinks truck and get MACK!! 

[MAJBobby]

2 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

Is anyone tracking Pegula’s plane?

 

Why?  From what I am tracking Mack is in Buffalo training this offseason during thr hold-out