TPS Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: This team was at the league average in scoring defense. Many players are back for their second season in the system. Plenty of reasons it could be good. 18th in points and 26th in yards. You want to focus on points. Will they have as much success in takeaways? Will the O be worse in TOs with a new QB, because that will also play into Ppg given up. I think They will be better, but I don’t think they will jump to top 5. Even Top 10 would be a Great Leap Forward. I hope it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 There is cause for concern. The secondary is legit although if Davis gets hurt or gets old (Even though he isn't that old he has played for a long time and he has a significant injury history) the corner back position could look dicey. The front 7 could go either way. Edumonds is raw but one hell of an athlete, Milano showed flashes last year the team only needs him to be decent and Lorax is a strong side vet who should be able to provide decent play. But the LB core rests on Edumonds young shoulders. The D-line looks stout over the middle. Star should be a capable run defender, Henry is looking like a young stud and Kyle Williams should be a rotational player. The pass rush has Hughes who is a player who you should be able to expect a better season from, Shaq is a young player with upside having a good pre-season, Murphy a nice veteran addition (although he is hurt which is concerning) and there are also other younger players on the edge. Overall I think the defensive optimism stems from confidence in the coaching staff and front office more so than anything else. The talent is there but depth is lacking and there are some questions esp in the front 7, but people seem to think that the coaching will be able to develop these players and find the best fits talent wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Can you atleast wait til week one to start your complaining about everything threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, Dopey said: How bout they play a couple of games at least before you critique the defense? This is a new season coming up, righ?! He's criticizing the people who say it's going to be a top 5 or 10 D, who also say this without seeing a few games first. He raises legitimate questions, for once..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, TPS said: He's criticizing the people who say it's going to be a top 5 or 10 D, who also say this without seeing a few games first. He raises legitimate questions, for once..... Now you see, troll toll? This is how it's done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Mrbojanglezs said: Your right. I'm concerned with our pass rush. But we should be improved in the middle with DL and mlb I'd say top 15 at least how'd we do last week with run defense. says a contrarian with an honest viable point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, TPS said: 18th in points and 26th in yards. You want to focus on points. Will they have as much success in takeaways? Will the O be worse in TOs with a new QB, because that will also play into Ppg given up. I think They will be better, but I don’t think they will jump to top 5. Even Top 10 would be a Great Leap Forward. I hope it happens. I agree with you. But points defense is what matters, not yards, and second half defense really matters, and Bills were good at that. I don't know what will happen, but your great leap forward to 10 is possible. Three potentially good additions on the line, a potentially great addition at middle linebacker, and a returning solid secondary. No reason that group can't be better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 The OP makes some decent points. I do think the LB’s could be a weak spot with Tremaine going through some growing pains. I also do think that the pass rush is somewhat suspect. We know what Jerry Hughes can do but it doesn’t look like Shaq will ever be a big time pass rusher. The Bills are hoping Trent Murphy can give them a lift but he has yet to take a pre-season snap. I disagree on the secondary - I think that White is a solid CB and Davis is still capable on the other side. Hyde and Poyer are also very good. The starting secondary is easily the strength of the defense. Sure the depth is somewhat questionable and injuries could have a huge effect but you can say that at any position in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 It's not that different than last year. Upgraded a little on the d-line. I expect a little better than last year which is middle of the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 It's only overrated here on these boards. Just what fans tend to do. Overrate their own team/players while simultaneously being upset they're not getting the recognition they deserve. This defense will probably play fairly similar to last season's D. Doesn't look like the run-D has improved much, but it's gotta be better than it was right??? Even just a little... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Booooo-urns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I did a quick search of preseason predictions. USA Today - Bills rate 26th (the "concerning" tier) - https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/06/nfl-rankings-defenses-units-vikings-jaguars-eagles-rams Bleacher Report - Bills rated as 19th best defense preseason - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773486-power-ranking-every-nfl-defense-post-draft#slide14 NFL Network - Bills don't make the Top 9 - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000947797/article/nfls-best-defenses-in-2018-jaguars-vikings-absolutely-loaded The Sporting News (this one is a fantasy football ranking) - Bills rank 19th - http://www.sportingnews.com/us/fantasy/sport/news/fantasy-football-defense-rankings-2018-cheat-sheet-dst-sleepers-busts-projections-draft-strategy-draft-kit/21vdvmb334z51d1ug8ucwh3d7 So who are these people "overrating" the Bills defense? Where are they hiding their secret high ratings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I did a quick search of preseason predictions. USA Today - Bills rate 26th (the "concerning" tier) - https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/06/nfl-rankings-defenses-units-vikings-jaguars-eagles-rams Bleacher Report - Bills rated as 19th best defense preseason - https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2773486-power-ranking-every-nfl-defense-post-draft#slide14 NFL Network - Bills don't make the Top 9 - http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000947797/article/nfls-best-defenses-in-2018-jaguars-vikings-absolutely-loaded The Sporting News (this one is a fantasy football ranking) - Bills rank 19th - http://www.sportingnews.com/us/fantasy/sport/news/fantasy-football-defense-rankings-2018-cheat-sheet-dst-sleepers-busts-projections-draft-strategy-draft-kit/21vdvmb334z51d1ug8ucwh3d7 So who are these people "overrating" the Bills defense? Where are they hiding their secret high ratings? Bills fans, of course. We do it every year! GO BILLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Agree with first post...no real reason to believe we'll be that good. Tough go of stopping the run and rushing the passer is most likely scenario. Hopefully our redzone defense and turnover ratio is good again...could be wrong though! Go Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COTC Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 Yeah. Pressure and sacks are an issue. Hopefully Mack would substantially improve this D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 we have played two games of preseason and we haven't even finalized the roster yet. Lighten up Francis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Troll Toll said: I may have something to say about that! I would suggest that you do not try. And on that note... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 [This is an automated response] This topic is no longer contributing positively to the community and therefore the discussion has been closed. Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 10 hours ago, joesixpack said: I'll cut him some slack. Youre a better man than me. I didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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