4merper4mer Posted August 21, 2018 Author Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said: I think it's far more likely he goes straight back to dominating the division, and jacksonville crawls back to the basement where they belong. He "dominated" the worst division in the history of football.
3rdand12 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 6 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: What if Frank Reich starts posting in this thread he already did. guess which one ?
YoloinOhio Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Just threw a pick on MNF, no idea who he was throwing to
Beast Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) He doesn’t need the horseshoes on his helmet, he needs them up his ass. Edited August 21, 2018 by Binghamton Beast
BillsFan130 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 I really don’t get the hate on Andrew Luck. Has he lived up to his hype so far in his career? No but he’s still a good quarterback. You think more people would realize that after he missed last year and the colts were one of the worst teams in the league without him. The Colts have virtually no supporting cast around him outside of TY Hilton
BullBuchanan Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsfan11 said: I really don’t get the hate on Andrew Luck. Has he lived up to his hype so far in his career? No but he’s still a good quarterback. You think more people would realize that after he missed last year and the colts were one of the worst teams in the league without him. The Colts have virtually no supporting cast around him outside of TY Hilton And they've been that way for somewhere around 15 years. Peyton Manning tricked us into thinking guys like Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie could play. Who knows what wouldve become of Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne had he not showed up.
BillsFan130 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: And they've been that way for somewhere around 15 years. Peyton Manning tricked us into thinking guys like Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie could play. Who knows what wouldve become of Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne had he not showed up. Very true
BuffaloRebound Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Luck never had a big arm, but now he looks like he can’t throw the ball through a paper bag.
Captain_Quint Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 That interview was brutal. Seemed like he was lying the whole time about the arm.
billsfan89 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 I wouldn't hit the panic button on Luck just yet. He has looked so so in camp and pretty ass in pre-season. But it's only half way through pre-season and he is coming off of a major injury. But If we are in week 7 and Luck still looks horrible it is cause for serious concern.
eball Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 16 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Bill Simmons does a funny impression of Luck as Andre the Giant. this is also one of the best twitter follows: https://mobile.twitter.com/CaptAndrewLuck also, I’m totally taking Luck as my 2nd QB in fantasy. Yes, I was just going to mention the Capt Andrew Luck twitter feed. It's a must follow for NFL fans.
4merper4mer Posted August 21, 2018 Author Posted August 21, 2018 8 hours ago, billsfan89 said: I wouldn't hit the panic button on Luck just yet. He has looked so so in camp and pretty ass in pre-season. But it's only half way through pre-season and he is coming off of a major injury. But If we are in week 7 and Luck still looks horrible it is cause for serious concern. That's the spirit. He gets half a season to have excused suckiness and still be the greatest draft prospect of all time. And this after a full year of European treatments.
Buffalo Boy Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Ah, the season can officially start! we need Cam’s 2018 thread as well Josh Allen > Andrew Luck Just for the record ?
Captain_Quint Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, eball said: Yes, I was just going to mention the Capt Andrew Luck twitter feed. It's a must follow for NFL fans. They've got a Mayfield one too. I haven't seen a Josh Allen one yet. Who's feeling creative today???
billsfan89 Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 11 hours ago, 4merper4mer said: That's the spirit. He gets half a season to have excused suckiness and still be the greatest draft prospect of all time. And this after a full year of European treatments. I don't know why you have this hard on against Andrew Luck. You can say Luck was/is overrated and that he probably hasn't lived up to his draft status. I think that is an arguable point although his 2014 and 2016 seasons were legit great and he has been at least above average in the 3 other seasons he played. Luck's resume is pretty solid even if you feel others have overrated him (although you could place the blame more so on the Colts inability to surround him with talent.) My point was that Luck is coming off an injury serious enough to have him miss an entire season. Luck hasn't played in just under 2 years. Luck didn't even get any off-season training in during the 2017 off-season. So for a player coming off that serious of an injury playing in a new system to look rusty is understandable given the circumstances. If Luck gets deeper into the regular season and looks hurt then you really know something could be wrong. But a guy in his circumstances looking rusty in pre-season doesn't mean the guy is going to be a complete failure. 2
4merper4mer Posted August 22, 2018 Author Posted August 22, 2018 2 hours ago, billsfan89 said: I don't know why you have this hard on against Andrew Luck. You can say Luck was/is overrated and that he probably hasn't lived up to his draft status. I think that is an arguable point although his 2014 and 2016 seasons were legit great and he has been at least above average in the 3 other seasons he played. Luck's resume is pretty solid even if you feel others have overrated him (although you could place the blame more so on the Colts inability to surround him with talent.) My point was that Luck is coming off an injury serious enough to have him miss an entire season. Luck hasn't played in just under 2 years. Luck didn't even get any off-season training in during the 2017 off-season. So for a player coming off that serious of an injury playing in a new system to look rusty is understandable given the circumstances. If Luck gets deeper into the regular season and looks hurt then you really know something could be wrong. But a guy in his circumstances looking rusty in pre-season doesn't mean the guy is going to be a complete failure. I didn't criticize him for looking rusty in preseason. I merely gave a tip of the cap for a half a season's worth of excusing in advance. And I think Luck is a good dude. I don't have any problem with him. I just find the 1984 type treatment he gets very odd.
BringBackOrton Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 On 8/20/2018 at 1:36 PM, 4merper4mer said: I don't know that I would call him bad. He was simply supposed to be the greatest player drafted in 50 years. He has not been anything approaching that but the narrative cannot be changed. Kim Jung QB must not be criticized. One QB has been drafted since Luck who also has played in the AFCCG. Only one QB has been drafted since Luck has made the NFCCG.
billsfan89 Posted August 22, 2018 Posted August 22, 2018 46 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: I didn't criticize him for looking rusty in preseason. I merely gave a tip of the cap for a half a season's worth of excusing in advance. And I think Luck is a good dude. I don't have any problem with him. I just find the 1984 type treatment he gets very odd. Is it really an excuse or just a time table of expectations based off of his injury history? I think that taking those factors into consideration you can lessen the need for panic until you get deeper into the season. It's not like Andrew Luck tore his ACL or some other injury in week 1 of 2017 where he at least got a full off-season's worth of training in and then came back during OTA's. Luck's injury was serious enough where he didn't do any football activities until this years training camp. It's possible he won't ever be the same QB he once was. But he is likely to take some time to come back to form if he is on the comeback trail. I don't know what 1984 type treatment you are talking about but if you are saying he gets over hyped then you have an argument but my points were more so just taking into account the type of injury he had and the possible time table for him to give you enough of a sample size to know how well he is coming back.
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