If I Could Ask McDermott One Question

[The_Dude]

Let’s go back two years. Rex is fired and McDermott is hired. Word on the skreets was Whaley was a dead man walking after the draft. 

 

As a fan I take stock after the season. We missed the playoffs, again, and Taylor did NOT take a step forward. So, naturally I did what we all did — we began evaluating the QB crop for that years draft. It was called “lackluster” but I saw one guy I wanted — Mahomes. Rocket arm, playmaker, can extend plays on the run. 

 

When Mahomes fell to us (I expected him to go earlier) I was jumping for joy. Then I saw KC on the screen and couldn’t believe it — McDummy traded back (Whaley was NOT running that draft and I’m not gonna argue that point). I was FURIOUS. So much so I HATED Tre White and would only call him by the name Not-Mahomes. 

 

Anways, spring turned to summer which turned to fall and my anger subsided. What helped me the most to come to grips with losing out on Mahomes was Nate Peterman. Peterman is the anti-Mahomes. Peterman HAS to play a cerebral brand of QBing because he’s not Mahomes. He doesn’t have a cannon. He isn’t the athlete Mahomes is. 

 

It was with that thinking that I concluded that McDermott must be looking for a ‘Drew Brees’ type and that while Peterman is unlikely to be Brees, he’s the type of QB McDermott wanted. And you can obviously win that way. Further, during the year McDermott clearly was frustrated by our starter whom we all knew when McDermott took the job wasn’t long for Buffalo. That increased my belief that McDermott was looking for a QB in the Brees mold. 

 

Then em comes this years draft. My list was Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen, and Allen. But I believed McDermotts list was; Darnold, Rosen, Rudolph. It made sense with the information I had available. Allen to me wasn’t in consideration because he was the guy most like Mahomes, only Allen was viewed by many as a lesser prospect than Mahomes. So to me, pre draft, Allen was NOT coming to Buffalo. 

 

When we drafted Allen I was PISSED. I was pissed because we drafted the guy everybody said was Kyle Boler 2.0. 

 

Spring gave way to summer and I put my torch and pitchfork down and settled down. I’m hopeful with Allen. He’s done some nice things. 

 

But here’s what I want to know from McDermott — why? See, the timeline doesn’t make sense to me. I was convinced two years ago we were gonna draft a QB high because it fit perfectly with the timeline of an NFL coach. A rookie HC takes a job, has a decent starter but not a great one, you know he has to find a QB or in 2-4 years he’s fired and may never get another opportunity. So to draft a QB high and let him sit a year under Tyrod would have made perfect sense. So I’m puzzled as to why McDermott wouldn’t have taken Mahomes a year earlier when his skill set is so similar to Allen’s who McDermott ultimately ended up with. 

 

The only two guesses I have for McDermotts motivations are these:

1. QB is a huge position and he wanted his GM to do the scouting. He didn’t want Whaley’s scouting reports to determine the situation. 

 

2. The process looked at the dollars. Drafting Mahomes last year would have made great sense. But drafting a young guy this year makes a little sense too. See, you can argue that OBD thinks they can do some serious shopping in free agency next year. So, they would have projected this year to not be a good shopping year due to cap. So with the rookie wage scale, waiting a year could have been considered wise. 

 

It could be a a combination of the two. 

 

I’m excited about Allen and I pray he’s the one. But if I could ask and get a real answer out of McDermott, it’d be in this. 

 

What do you think? I’m curious as to other fans thoughts on the topic. Timelines are very important and strategic and McDermotts is very interesting. 

 

 

[Magox]

That's because they viewed Allen as a much better prospect than Mahomes.

[oldmanfan]

Maybe they didn't think Mahomes was that good

[buffaloboyinATL]

They believe Allen will be a better pro than Mahomes and so do I.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

They believe Allen will be a better pro than Mahomes and so do I.

 

Roger that. I see Mahomes as a one-trick pony in the tuhROD school of QBing.

 

 

[Rc2catch]

I think last year was more “team building” and setting up for the future, everyone expected garbage from Buffalo, why fuel the press with what would have been a non stop quarterback debate. Every single time he talked to the press it would of been when is Mahomes gonna start? Do you think Tyrod deserves the start? It would of been a huge distraction for everyone. 

This year not so much, of course if Allen isn’t the starter he will still field those questions however his team first culture is mostly set in place with his players now. Much more than at this point last year. 

Thats my thinking anyways. First year build the team in the mold you want, second year get your guy who slides in to that team chemistry you spent a year + building 

[Mickey]

Given your clear history of wild mood swings, from rage to elation back to rage, you might want to consider some form of therapy. This is a common problem with Bills fans. Trust me, I know. My advice, disengage. Smell some flowers, spend time with the kids, rediscover your porn stash. 

[SteveFreeman22]

I'd ask him what is his favorite flavor of ice cream.

[IDBillzFan]

2 minutes ago, SteveFreeman22 said:

I'd ask him what is his favorite flavor of ice cream.

 

That's a good question, but I think I''d ask him why birds suddenly appear every time he walks near.

[The Process]

8 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

That's a good question, but I think I''d ask him why birds suddenly appear every time he walks near.

Well it's because .....just like me, that long to be.....close to you....RIP KC

[richardb1952]

I just think that with a new coaching staff they wanted to have more time to evaluate the QB the franchise would hang its hat on.  Mahomes wasn't necessarily considered to be a sure fired franchise QB, so to be offered the opportunity to move down and gain draft capital for next year seemed like a good move.  Had the coaches already been in place longer, they might have taken Mahomes.  Probably more of a timing issue than anything else.  

 

Seems to have worked out well.  T. White, Allen, and Edmunds picks can be at least partially a result of the trade down.  Only time will tell.

[BuffaloBillyG]

If I could ask McD one question it would be how he makes the top of his head so shiny. As a soon to be folically challenged man, I need all the secrets.

[fansince88]

1 hour ago, No Place To Hyde said:

If I could ask McD one question it would be how he makes the top of his head so shiny. As a soon to be folically challenged man, I need all the secrets.

Clapping. .....lots and lots of clapping

[Seanbillsfan2206]

Is probably just ask him for his autograph ??‍♂️

[Guest K-GunJimKelly12]

With the way Allen has played this pre-season I honestly wouldn't take any QB drafted the last two years over him except Watson.  His pocket awareness and maneuvering look to be at a very high level and that can't be taught.  He's got a decent arm too.

[aceman_16]

2 hours ago, Mickey said:

rediscover your porn stash. 

I think I need help... I read this as "porn stache. "

[Boca BIlls]

Mahomes is garbage.

[HappyDays]

I made the same mistake as you, I thought Allen and Mahomes were very similar prospects and I couldn't see us taking Allen after passing on Mahomes. But I was wrong. The main difference is Allen came from a pro style offense and Mahomes played in the air raid offense. There hasn't been a single air raid college QB that has become a successful NFL QB. Mahomes is used to wide open receivers and half-field reads. That's why he threw a terrible pick yesterday and threw another would-be terrible pick in the red zone that was just dropped. Allen has better footwork, better pocket presence, better intelligence, and slightly better arm strength. They're very different prospects.

Edited August 18, 2018 by HappyDays

[The_Dude]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

I made the same mistake as you, I thought Allen and Mahomes were very similar prospects and I couldn't see us taking Allen after passing on Mahomes. But I was wrong. The main difference is Allen came from a pro style offense and Mahomes played in the air raid offense. There hasn't been a single air raid college QB that has become a successful NFL QB. Mahomes is used to wide open receivers and half-field reads. That's why he threw a terrible pick yesterday and threw another would-be terrible pick in the red zone that was just dropped. Allen has better footwork, better pocket presence, better intelligence, and slightly better arm strength. They're very different prospects.

 

Weren’t Aaron Rogers and Alex Smith air raid guys? I can’t remember. 

 

My view — Mahomes’ arm talent is enough to overcome. 

 

 

11 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said:

Mahomes is garbage.

 

....how about we let his play determine? We’ll see. Andy Reid seems to like him. I think he knows QBs pretty well. 

[bobobonators]

We're talking about Mahomes? The Chiefs QB? Lets relive the Sammy Watkins trade up too, while we're at it. These should be off-season topics when there is absolutely nothing else going on with the Bills team and not when we're going into week 3 of the preseason.