Mr. WEO Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Kiper nust said on radio that it would be a huge mistake to throw Allen out there in Baltimore and he expects them to start Peterman since he’s at least started and prepared for actual nfl defenses before. He loves Allen but noted he’s not seen anything yet like he willl see in the regular season when it comes to defenses. He indicated that behind that OL he could be ruined early on from a confidence standpoint. In the next breath he expects Darnold to start. I understand your point against Kiper's rant. But Darnold will start week 1 for sure. So should Allen. These guys weren't drafted to sit behind journeymen and watch their teams lose games.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 Just now, Mr. WEO said: I understand your point against Kiper's rant. But Darnold will start week 1 for sure. So should Allen. These guys weren't drafted to sit behind journeymen and watch their teams lose games. While that may be true..... which team is more willing to risk all by starting the rookie? Not that Nate is a great prospect but he may give JA enough time to make the final learning steps in those first few weeks.
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) I'd prefer to see Peterman only because I don't know how good/bad the O-line really is. Last week they looked good, last night, bad. In pre-season there's little schemeing going on, but that works both ways fro the Bill's O-line and the DL too. So how will they really look and hold up against a regular season game plan? Don't want to see a rookie out there with a bad line in front of him. Admittedly I'm more thinking about the regular season than next week, but whomever starts next week will also likely start against Baltimore too. Hmmm.... Just read the Kiper posts above, sounds like we think alike. Edited August 18, 2018 by Ed_Formerly_of_Roch 1
aristocrat Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 With our run game Allen can manage that and be effective 1
Mr. WEO Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: While that may be true..... which team is more willing to risk all by starting the rookie? Not that Nate is a great prospect but he may give JA enough time to make the final learning steps in those first few weeks. Final learning steps against his own team's backups in practice? 1
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 ...please Lord include this 9-Juan-Juan Castillo in the first round of cuts......as far as his abilities, replace development with detriment...get Mouse McNally on the horn to fix this OL mess....hell he's only 74 and would be light years ahead of the current clown.....
klos63 Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Kiper just said on radio that it would be a huge mistake to throw Allen out there in Baltimore and he expects them to start Peterman since he’s at least started and prepared for actual nfl defenses before. He loves Allen but noted he’s not seen anything yet like he willl see in the regular season when it comes to defenses. He indicated that behind that OL he could be ruined early on from a confidence standpoint. In the next breath he expects Darnold to start. There is no perfect answer. Allen is more talented by far, neither QB has enough experience to offset a skilled NFL defense. I try not to ever draw too many conclusions from preseason games for all the reasons we all understand, but Allen really looks special.
JMF2006 Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) I like Peterman he will be a good BU QB for the Bills. But our future is 17 and the future is now.. If Peterman had a bit more arm or zip on the ball he could be a starter but he doesn't have it and CB's will anticipate throws because of that. Edited August 18, 2018 by JMF2006 1
Kelly the Dog Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 Peterman has one full game of NFL experience more than Josh. And half of it was the worst half in NFL history. It's not like he has all this experience factor over him. 3
hemma Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 It really doesn't take a lot of courage for McDermott to start Allen. Preseason is the time to figure out the possibilities and I can't see McDermott 'playing it safe'. Allen sure looks to be on schedule. He starts.
Boatdrinks Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 I want Allen to start. I think McD goes with Peterman.
Fadingpain Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 I think they will start Allen. This may look like it has randomly, organically evolved over time including AJ's injury, but I suspect this was all drawn up on the chalk board a couple months ago. Things are progressing according to a defined plan, so that Allen can be named the starter and start Week 1 in Baltimore. I said it would play out that way a few months ago. 1
YoloinOhio Posted August 18, 2018 Author Posted August 18, 2018 57 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Peterman has one full game of NFL experience more than Josh. And half of it was the worst half in NFL history. It's not like he has all this experience factor over him. He doesn’t have more game playing experience, but McD could say he had more game prep experience. Either way, it’s not a lot. 1
PromoTheRobot Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) The fact that some players speak highly of Allen, including locker room leaders like LorAx, might be a message to McDermott that the players are buying in to Allen and want him to play. I was firmly in the "sit Allen" camp, but he's shown he's capable. He should start Sunday as the final test. If he aces it, he's the starter. Edited August 18, 2018 by PromoTheRobot 1 2
Warcodered Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) I think it's Allen, it kind of feels like it did this last week where he did well in the 1st ps game but people wanted to see him with better players around him. Then they moved him up to the 2s in practice and that's what he got in the game. This time he did really well and people think he should get a shot with the ones. I know game 3 is usually the dress rehearsal but it's not like that's etched in stone. Edited August 18, 2018 by Warcodered
MAJBobby Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 Allen. He is the best QB on this team. I am ready fornthe Josh Allen Era to start now. And that is knowing full well there is going to be valleys along the way. 3
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Allen. He is the best QB on this team. I am ready fornthe Josh Allen Era to start now. And that is knowing full well there is going to be valleys along the way. Booby, we finally agree. LET'S DO THIS.
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 Should be Allen but it's probably Peterman.
The Red King Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 I think the plan has been, see what the kid can do. Put him out with the 3rd string, played well enough for a shot with the 2nd team...played well enough for a shot with the 1s. Peterman is, at this point, a known commodity. I don't think Allen is a lock for week 1 starter yet, but I think he starts vs Cinci, as a bit of a final exam...and his chance to win the week one start. McD has been watching and waiting for him to stumble, for him to be overwhelmed, for him to show he isn't ready. Instead, he's shown poise and game presence I'm stunned to see in a rookie. I know it's preseason, but just compare Allen in the two-minute drill compared to what we had last season. Allen is further ahead then planned, exceeding expectations. I think he gets the start vs. Cinci, with a chance to win the regular season starting job.
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