transplantbillsfan Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) Edited August 18, 2018 by transplantbillsfan 1
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 I'm waiting till McDermott says he's ready but I'm hoping he starts.
downunderbill Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 Even when the media knew he'd be bad, they knew he'd be good. 1 4 2
qwksilver Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 Its only been 2 preseason games, but if he's not better than the other 2 right now he will be if he gets all the 1st team reps the rest of the way. 1
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 Petermans ceiling is a poor mans chad pennington. Allen's is god. 4 5 2
Bangarang Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 Do we like the media now or are they all still idiots? It’s hard keeping track around here. 1 2 4
Aussie Joe Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 They have spent the last year 4 months crapping on Allen...
John from Riverside Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 Nobody wanted him 1000 letters to schools Jim Kelly must be loving this kid.....finally someone worthy 1
JGMcD2 Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791525-nfl-preseason-roundup-josh-allen-looks-more-like-treasure-than-trash#slide10 I love how performance is manipulated by the writers, and eaten up by fans reading content. Let's look at the comparison between Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield in this article alone. I'll start by saying that I really like both, and believe they will be successful NFL quarterbacks. I'd like to follow that up with the fact that the media DOES NOT want Josh Allen to have success, not in the slightest. He will always be framed as a guy with a big arm, who is athletic, but not accurate enough to be a good quarterback. Josh played with the 3rd unit against the Panthers in week 1 of the preseason. He finished that game 9/19 for 116 yards and 1 touchdown. While the 9/19 isn't fantastic, he did some impressive things during that game, considering he was running for his life behind the Bills 3rd string offensive line. He made 2 very poor throws, 2 that were overthrown on deep routes, he had 3-4 balls that were clearly dropped by the receiver and then a handful that were incomplete on purpose. Again, he was 9/19 that is the stat line, but given the circumstances it was an impressive performance. Now the article above states it was an up and down performance for Josh, and I completely disagree. According to Mr. Davenport Josh Allen's performance was up and down, while media darling Baker Mayfield's performance this week was framed in a much different way, despite having an eerily similar narrative. Let's review how Mr. Davenport frames Baker Mayfield's performance tonight. "At first glance, it might look like Mayfield took a step backward after having the best exhibition debut of any of this year's first-round rookies under center. He barely completed over 50 percent of his 13 pass attempts for just 75 yards against Buffalo. To be fair, it wasn't as good a performance as he posted against the New York Giants. But it also wasn't as bad as that stat line. Playing with reserve offensive linemen, for the most part, who showed why they aren't starting, Mayfield was consistently harassed by Buffalo pass-rushers. But rather than get happy feet or make a poor decision that resulted in a turnover, Mayfield hung in the pocket and made throws." Let's also look at how he frames Josh Allen's performance last week. "First came an up-and-down preseason debut against the Carolina Panthers in which both Allen's big right arm and his lack of accuracy were on display." Baker Mayfield gets the glass half-full treatment, while Josh Allen gets the glass half-empty treatment. The narrative will always be that Allen is inconsistent, and until he becomes a top-tier quarterback it will stay that way. His college career is not all that different from Carson Wentz, the only difference is that Carson played for the Alabama of the FCS, with teams that dominated the competition on a daily basis, so much so that Carson Wentz missed 8 games as a redshirt senior and the team still managed to go 8-0 with a freshman quarterback leading the team. Now, Carson Wentz is an MVP caliber quarterback, but he was on an outstanding team and his numbers are eerily similar to Josh Allen. Josh played against elevated competition at Wyoming on a team that was nowhere near as talented as NDSU. Josh Allen catches some undue flack from the media for no reason, Wentz was another media darling despite being an FCS quarterback on a dominant team. Wentz definitely elevated that team's level of play, but they could still function without him. At Wyoming, Allen definitely elevated his team, but they couldn't live without him. https://mwwire.com/2018/01/21/nfl-draft-josh-allen-carson-wenz/ The media is going to force feed fans information that is twisted and altered in order to create the narrative they want. I highly suggest fans start educating themselves on their topic of interest by going to numerous sources, rather than just click a headline, listen to ESPN or click on a boxscore and assume it is a fact. I just want an unbiased opinion on how these guys are doing, I am so tired of media personalities and their inflated egos. They're not talent evaluators, their job is to report facts. Give me the facts and have constructive conversations around sports, athletes and their performance. 4 5
first_and_ten Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791525-nfl-preseason-roundup-josh-allen-looks-more-like-treasure-than-trash#slide10 I love how performance is manipulated by the writers, and eaten up by fans reading content. Let's look at the comparison between Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield in this article alone. I'll start by saying that I really like both, and believe they will be successful NFL quarterbacks. I'd like to follow that up with the fact that the media DOES NOT want Josh Allen to have success, not in the slightest. He will always be framed as a guy with a big arm, who is athletic, but not accurate enough to be a good quarterback. Josh played with the 3rd unit against the Panthers in week 1 of the preseason. He finished that game 9/19 for 116 yards and 1 touchdown. While the 9/19 isn't fantastic, he did some impressive things during that game, considering he was running for his life behind the Bills 3rd string offensive line. He made 2 very poor throws, 2 that were overthrown on deep routes, he had 3-4 balls that were clearly dropped by the receiver and then a handful that were incomplete on purpose. Again, he was 9/19 that is the stat line, but given the circumstances it was an impressive performance. Now the article above states it was an up and down performance for Josh, and I completely disagree. According to Mr. Davenport Josh Allen's performance was up and down, while media darling Baker Mayfield's performance this week was framed in a much different way, despite having an eerily similar narrative. Let's review how Mr. Davenport frames Baker Mayfield's performance tonight. "At first glance, it might look like Mayfield took a step backward after having the best exhibition debut of any of this year's first-round rookies under center. He barely completed over 50 percent of his 13 pass attempts for just 75 yards against Buffalo. To be fair, it wasn't as good a performance as he posted against the New York Giants. But it also wasn't as bad as that stat line. Playing with reserve offensive linemen, for the most part, who showed why they aren't starting, Mayfield was consistently harassed by Buffalo pass-rushers. But rather than get happy feet or make a poor decision that resulted in a turnover, Mayfield hung in the pocket and made throws." Let's also look at how he frames Josh Allen's performance last week. "First came an up-and-down preseason debut against the Carolina Panthers in which both Allen's big right arm and his lack of accuracy were on display." Baker Mayfield gets the glass half-full treatment, while Josh Allen gets the glass half-empty treatment. The narrative will always be that Allen is inconsistent, and until he becomes a top-tier quarterback it will stay that way. His college career is not all that different from Carson Wentz, the only difference is that Carson played for the Alabama of the FCS, with teams that dominated the competition on a daily basis, so much so that Carson Wentz missed 8 games as a redshirt senior and the team still managed to go 8-0 with a freshman quarterback leading the team. Now, Carson Wentz is an MVP caliber quarterback, but he was on an outstanding team and his numbers are eerily similar to Josh Allen. Josh played against elevated competition at Wyoming on a team that was nowhere near as talented as NDSU. Josh Allen catches some undue flack from the media for no reason, Wentz was another media darling despite being an FCS quarterback on a dominant team. Wentz definitely elevated that team's level of play, but they could still function without him. At Wyoming, Allen definitely elevated his team, but they couldn't live without him. https://mwwire.com/2018/01/21/nfl-draft-josh-allen-carson-wenz/ The media is going to force feed fans information that is twisted and altered in order to create the narrative they want. I highly suggest fans start educating themselves on their topic of interest by going to numerous sources, rather than just click a headline, listen to ESPN or click on a boxscore and assume it is a fact. I just want an unbiased opinion on how these guys are doing, I am so tired of media personalities and their inflated egos. They're not talent evaluators, their job is to report facts. Give me the facts and have constructive conversations around sports, athletes and their performance. Great read!! I have to say I agree
Warcodered Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 I was just reading your comment on the article.
JGMcD2 Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I was just reading your comment on the article. Lol, yeah. Figured I'd share here too!
RocCityRoller Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 wait.... Pete Prisco likes anything Buffalo? Am I dead?
Doc Brown Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 23 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: The media is going to force feed fans information that is twisted and altered in order to create the narrative they want. I highly suggest fans start educating themselves on their topic of interest by going to numerous sources, rather than just click a headline, listen to ESPN or click on a boxscore and assume it is a fact. I just want an unbiased opinion on how these guys are doing, I am so tired of media personalities and their inflated egos. They're not talent evaluators, their job is to report facts. Give me the facts and have constructive conversations around sports, athletes and their performance. This is why sports are so much simpler than politics. You can let your playing on the field destroy any narrative put out there. I'll definitely have to eat crow if Allen turns into a franchise QB, but all those expert anti Allen prognosticators have to also.
transplantbillsfan Posted August 18, 2018 Author Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, GETTOTHE50 said: Petermans ceiling is a poor mans chad pennington. Allen's is god. God, that describes him perfectly... incredible how the Peterman nuts are still clinging. 1
RocCityRoller Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2791525-nfl-preseason-roundup-josh-allen-looks-more-like-treasure-than-trash#slide10 I love how performance is manipulated by the writers, and eaten up by fans reading content. Let's look at the comparison between Josh Allen and Baker Mayfield in this article alone. I'll start by saying that I really like both, and believe they will be successful NFL quarterbacks. I'd like to follow that up with the fact that the media DOES NOT want Josh Allen to have success, not in the slightest. He will always be framed as a guy with a big arm, who is athletic, but not accurate enough to be a good quarterback. Josh played with the 3rd unit against the Panthers in week 1 of the preseason. He finished that game 9/19 for 116 yards and 1 touchdown. While the 9/19 isn't fantastic, he did some impressive things during that game, considering he was running for his life behind the Bills 3rd string offensive line. He made 2 very poor throws, 2 that were overthrown on deep routes, he had 3-4 balls that were clearly dropped by the receiver and then a handful that were incomplete on purpose. Again, he was 9/19 that is the stat line, but given the circumstances it was an impressive performance. Now the article above states it was an up and down performance for Josh, and I completely disagree. According to Mr. Davenport Josh Allen's performance was up and down, while media darling Baker Mayfield's performance this week was framed in a much different way, despite having an eerily similar narrative. Let's review how Mr. Davenport frames Baker Mayfield's performance tonight. "At first glance, it might look like Mayfield took a step backward after having the best exhibition debut of any of this year's first-round rookies under center. He barely completed over 50 percent of his 13 pass attempts for just 75 yards against Buffalo. To be fair, it wasn't as good a performance as he posted against the New York Giants. But it also wasn't as bad as that stat line. Playing with reserve offensive linemen, for the most part, who showed why they aren't starting, Mayfield was consistently harassed by Buffalo pass-rushers. But rather than get happy feet or make a poor decision that resulted in a turnover, Mayfield hung in the pocket and made throws." Let's also look at how he frames Josh Allen's performance last week. "First came an up-and-down preseason debut against the Carolina Panthers in which both Allen's big right arm and his lack of accuracy were on display." Baker Mayfield gets the glass half-full treatment, while Josh Allen gets the glass half-empty treatment. The narrative will always be that Allen is inconsistent, and until he becomes a top-tier quarterback it will stay that way. His college career is not all that different from Carson Wentz, the only difference is that Carson played for the Alabama of the FCS, with teams that dominated the competition on a daily basis, so much so that Carson Wentz missed 8 games as a redshirt senior and the team still managed to go 8-0 with a freshman quarterback leading the team. Now, Carson Wentz is an MVP caliber quarterback, but he was on an outstanding team and his numbers are eerily similar to Josh Allen. Josh played against elevated competition at Wyoming on a team that was nowhere near as talented as NDSU. Josh Allen catches some undue flack from the media for no reason, Wentz was another media darling despite being an FCS quarterback on a dominant team. Wentz definitely elevated that team's level of play, but they could still function without him. At Wyoming, Allen definitely elevated his team, but they couldn't live without him. https://mwwire.com/2018/01/21/nfl-draft-josh-allen-carson-wenz/ The media is going to force feed fans information that is twisted and altered in order to create the narrative they want. I highly suggest fans start educating themselves on their topic of interest by going to numerous sources, rather than just click a headline, listen to ESPN or click on a boxscore and assume it is a fact. I just want an unbiased opinion on how these guys are doing, I am so tired of media personalities and their inflated egos. They're not talent evaluators, their job is to report facts. Give me the facts and have constructive conversations around sports, athletes and their performance. And you are just waking up to the fact the national media is garbage? Why do you think most Americans go to late night comedians and youtube for news? The national media is far and away trash. No journalistic integrity. Most are run by multi-national corporations.
Prickly Pete Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Do we like the media now or are they all still idiots? It’s hard keeping track around here. WHo cares about the media? It's the !@#$ing eyeball test. He is clearly the best guy, on a trajectory that the others can't ever hope to match. HE'S THE GUY. Edited August 18, 2018 by OJ Tom
RocCityRoller Posted August 18, 2018 Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Do we like the media now or are they all still idiots? It’s hard keeping track around here. Still idiots, but hey a broken clock is right twice a day.
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