row_33 Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Strethor said: Browns have more talent then most of the league in all honestly but one of the objectively worst coaches in the league A good coach and weak-ish division matters more I think we will win more and place higher in our division than the browns would comparatively "more talent than most of the league" are people having an acid flashback, more so than normal for pre-regular season football... 1
Strethor Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: "more talent than most of the league" are people having an acid flashback, more so than normal for pre-regular season football... All you have to do is look at their offense Top 3 WR + Jarvis Laundry Njoku, Hyde, potentially Dez, and a great receiving back Tyrod will not take full advantage of this but still... They flipped their offense like we flipped our secondary last year and could objectively be a good team given the fact that their defense was top 15 the year before
mannc Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, Shotgunner said: At this point, my guess is that Allen is 1 win better than Peterman. Good Lord, I hope this is wrong. Allen is only one win better than last year's 5th round pick, who has about 60 minutes of NFL game experience, during which he mostly looked completely lost? Seriously?
BuffaloBillyG Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 4:17 PM, Kirby Jackson said: I think it’s the Browns. They have a more talented roster and a LOT more depth. Honest and pretty solid thought process. I agree. However if I'm guessing which team wins more games over the next 5 years...my bet would be Buffalo.
mannc Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Strethor said: All you have to do is look at their offense Top 3 WR + Jarvis Laundry Njoku, Hyde, potentially Dez, and a great receiving back Tyrod will not take full advantage of this but still... They flipped their offense like we flipped our secondary last year and could objectively be a good team given the fact that their defense was top 15 the year before The Browns also have some very good offensive linemen; they have invested heavily in this area. Last year they suffered from historically bad quarterbacking and the 32nd best coaching in the league. This year, the quarterbacking should be at least average and their young talent is going to start to show. I give them a shot at a wild card berth. 1
Heavy Kevi Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 40 minutes ago, mannc said: Good Lord, I hope this is wrong. Allen is only one win better than last year's 5th round pick, who has about 60 minutes of NFL game experience, during which he mostly looked completely lost? Seriously? Peterman has looked pretty good so far this preseason, despite his draft status or last years play. It's a new year, and where you were drafted no longer matters.If we can e v a l Josh on this preseason, so can we with Nate.
HOUSE Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 I am expecting a great year for Cleveland,with a lot of luck and no injuries the Browns should win at least 2 games 1
ricojes Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/17/2018 at 10:32 PM, Bfanlc said: Based on what you guys have seen who wins more games this year? Bills or Browns? I would say Buffalo. But why are we comparing these 2 teams? How about Bills/Dolphins or Bills/Jests? 1
Fadingpain Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 5 hours ago, row_33 said: hopefully both fanbases have something to cheer for this year, been a long time combined.... It's been a combined 46 years since either team won a playoff game! Holy hell.
ricojes Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: It's been a combined 46 years since either team won a playoff game! Holy hell. And the Browns backed into the playoffs in 2002, therefore that apparently (at least from what I have read on this board) doesn't count. So they really should have held the longest playoff drought instead of the Bills the past 19 or whatever years!!! Edited August 20, 2018 by ricojes
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: It's been a combined 46 years since either team won a playoff game! Holy hell. I could be mistaken, but I think if the Bengals don't win a playoff game this year it will make 30 years since they won one...
ricojes Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I could be mistaken, but I think if the Bengals don't win a playoff game this year it will make 30 years since they won one... Detroit is up there as well...
TroutDog Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Because of the culture, I believe the Bills will win more games this year. I really don’t know enough about the Browns D but, with TT, I suspect they won’t be lighting up the scoreboard.
Fadingpain Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: I could be mistaken, but I think if the Bengals don't win a playoff game this year it will make 30 years since they won one... They haven't won in 27 years. Last victory 1/6/91 vs. Houston Oilers.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Browns defense was certainly part of why the Bills o line looked putrid. TT is like years better than anything they trotted out last year. They are a lock to win at least 7 games, may be a wild card. Bills are a toss up and it’s all about josh Allen being able to start and LeSean McCoy running behind this new line. If those two don’t work out, the bills are in for a historically bad offense this season
Fadingpain Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, ricojes said: Detroit is up there as well... 26 years. Last playoff win: 1/5/92 against Dallas.
Strethor Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 6 hours ago, mannc said: The Browns also have some very good offensive linemen; they have invested heavily in this area. Last year they suffered from historically bad quarterbacking and the 32nd best coaching in the league. This year, the quarterbacking should be at least average and their young talent is going to start to show. I give them a shot at a wild card berth. I think hue + Tyrod prevents them from playoffs but I wouldn't be surprised to see them tie or eclipse either the ravens or bengals in wins
Big Gun Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Browns defense was certainly part of why the Bills o line looked putrid. TT is like years better than anything they trotted out last year. They are a lock to win at least 7 games, may be a wild card. Bills are a toss up and it’s all about josh Allen being able to start and LeSean McCoy running behind this new line. If those two don’t work out, the bills are in for a historically bad offense this season Not with that QB and coaches they are not Bills offense will be fine no matter who the QB as all 3 of them are better than who was here last year.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, pop gun said: Not with that QB and coaches they are not Bills offense will be fine no matter who the QB as all 3 of them are better than who was here last year. if only that were actually true. We know one for sure is not, and the other two have done literally nothing in their careers to prove that - zero.
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