How Many Amoung You Wouldn't Be Here If...

[Wacka]

Mother's father came here from Poland around 1910 ( he was 21 or 22 then).Came here the legal way through Ellis Island. Only he and his sister came. My mom has cousins she never met in Poland (that is if they survived WWII). Grandpa was resourceful and resilient. Worked as a tinsmith int Buffalo Forge. He knew a few words English when he came here   but taught himself English by reading the paper and talking to people (this was before radio was invented)' He was against  classes, etc for immigrants to learn English.  He said if he could teach homself, anybody could learn. He came here to get away fromGleeful  Gator's ancestors, as  Poland was occupied by Germany and the winds of war were stirring, even in 1910. 

 

Gator, go play in traffic.

[Teddy KGB]

Reeeeeeee tar ded OP 

[Paulus]

9 hours ago, Tiberius said:

But under Trump they wouldn't have, that's the point. 

But, under Trump we wouldn't have had the our of conrtol illegal immigration issue, which precipitated the alleged current immigration standards. 

 

Unsound premises.

[keepthefaith]

9 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Ok, that's the point. People that are here because of immigration want to close the door behind them. Why do you want to keep people out? 

 

You missed how Trump scapegoats immigrants? That's really strange that you missed that. 

Go play in traffic 

 

My ancestors literally came over on the Mayflower and for the sole purpose of keeping your ancestors and others like them out.  I'll apologize now for their failure. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

 

Trick question b/tchiz.  

 

you wouldn't have ancestors if you weren't here. It's basic hydronics. 

 

Nice try tiberius baron cohen.  

[Tiberius]

34 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

 

Trick question b/tchiz.  

 

you wouldn't have ancestors if you weren't here. It's basic hydronics. 

 

Nice try tiberius baron cohen.  

Lame. Afraid to address the issue? Yup 

[RaoulDuke79]

11 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Trump. Have you been paying attention? 

 

So you are saying that thirty years ago your family came here through immigration? But you support the stricter immigration policies of Trump? 

That's exactly what I'm saying. 

[row_33]

Tibs isn’t used to talking to anything except the mirror on his wall that tells him he is the wisest one of all

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

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[row_33]

Trump delirium is worse than if someone stole your wife or your children

 

you'd probably get over THAT and try to live a real life after 18 months, right?

 

 

[Chef Jim]

My grandfather came here illegally. Had Trump been President then I’d be living in Italy.  Where was Trump 100 years ago?   Good to see the dumbassery has not changed over here. 

3 hours ago, keepthefaith said:

 

My ancestors literally came over on the Mayflower and for the sole purpose of keeping your ancestors and others like them out.  I'll apologize now for their failure. 

 

Mine came over on the Fortune the second to arrive after the Mayflower. What, was he washing his hair the day then Mayflower left?  ?

[Tiberius]

9 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

My grandfather came here illegally. Had Trump been President then I’d be living in Italy.  Where was Trump 100 years ago?   Good to see the dumbassery has not changed over here. 

 

Mine came over on the Fortune the second to arrive after the Mayflower. What, was he washing his hair the day then Mayflower left?  ?

Ya, you'd miss Lake Ontario if you were not here. 

The story of Steven Millers family arriving in the USA sounds a lot like the immigrants of today. 

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-millers-great-grandfather-sam-was-a-chain-migrant-and-a-fine-american?ref=home

 

 

The ship docked at a Manhattan pier with a light breeze and the temperature in the high 60s. The first- and second-class passengers were cleared onboard by immigration officers and allowed to go on their way. Those in steerage were transported by ferry to Ellis Island, where they stepped off as others had in a Biograph film shot there exactly two months before.

No doubt this same beauty and strength was also to be seen in the new arrivals who came off the Ryndam on July 9. Those listed on a manifest marked “THIS SHEET IS FOR STEERAGE PASSENGERS” included 13-year-old Sam Glotzer—future great-grandfather of Stephen Miller, the White House aide who is crafting the Trump administration's efforts to curtail even legal immigration. Miller’s latest effort is to disqualify green card and U.S. citizen applicants who have received government benefits through programs such as Obamacare and children’s health insurance.

Sam arrived with his 15-year-old brother Saul and 9-year-old sister Bella and their mother, 50-year-old Bessie. The manifest records that the mother affirmed she was not an anarchist and had never been incarcerated or committed to a mental institution. But there was a “No” where it asked if she could read and another “No” where it asked if she could write and her occupation was listed as “None.” She seems to have been the kind of immigrant that her great-great-grandson would seek to exclude.

In the column headed “Condition of Health - Mental and Physical,” Bessie is listed as “Good.” But 13-year-old Sam’s entry in present days might well have marked him as an excludable, someone liable to need child health care.

[Gary M]

20 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

LOL................you see what happens ?

 

when you ask a question of someone incapable of answering, you deserve what you get.....gator gibberish, that is full of exaggeration and misstatements.

 

 

Legal immigration has made this country great.

 

Oh, I knew what I would get and he didn't disappoint.

[3rdnlng]

19 minutes ago, Gary M said:

 

Oh, I knew what I would get and he didn't disappoint.

You must understand that Gleeful Gator was loved by his fellow students in his own very special version of high school. His approval rating skyrocketed after every Bell Curved test.

[Tiberius]

12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You must understand that Gleeful Gator was loved by his fellow students in his own very special version of high school. His approval rating skyrocketed after every Bell Curved test.

I understand you are a worthless poster here. 

[outsidethebox]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

I understand you are a worthless poster here. 

Another quality post from a antifa representative! Keep up the good work!????????

[Tiberius]

5 minutes ago, westside said:

Another quality post from a antifa representative! Keep up the good work!????????

Anti fascism is the way to go, bro. Come join us! ?

[Gary M]

1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Ya, you'd miss Lake Ontario if you were not here. 

The story of Steven Millers family arriving in the USA sounds a lot like the immigrants of today. 

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/stephen-millers-great-grandfather-sam-was-a-chain-migrant-and-a-fine-american?ref=home

 

 

The ship docked at a Manhattan pier with a light breeze and the temperature in the high 60s. The first- and second-class passengers were cleared onboard by immigration officers and allowed to go on their way. Those in steerage were transported by ferry to Ellis Island, where they stepped off as others had in a Biograph film shot there exactly two months before.

No doubt this same beauty and strength was also to be seen in the new arrivals who came off the Ryndam on July 9. Those listed on a manifest marked “THIS SHEET IS FOR STEERAGE PASSENGERS” included 13-year-old Sam Glotzer—future great-grandfather of Stephen Miller, the White House aide who is crafting the Trump administration's efforts to curtail even legal immigration. Miller’s latest effort is to disqualify green card and U.S. citizen applicants who have received government benefits through programs such as Obamacare and children’s health insurance.

Sam arrived with his 15-year-old brother Saul and 9-year-old sister Bella and their mother, 50-year-old Bessie. The manifest records that the mother affirmed she was not an anarchist and had never been incarcerated or committed to a mental institution. But there was a “No” where it asked if she could read and another “No” where it asked if she could write and her occupation was listed as “None.” She seems to have been the kind of immigrant that her great-great-grandson would seek to exclude.

In the column headed “Condition of Health - Mental and Physical,” Bessie is listed as “Good.” But 13-year-old Sam’s entry in present days might well have marked him as an excludable, someone liable to need child health care.

 

There was no Obamacare or children health insurance, or medicaid, or welfare or snap back then, she got off that boat with full intend to work her ass off to make a better life, to live the American dream.

 

Now let's compare that mindset to today's immigrants

[Tiberius]

56 minutes ago, Gary M said:

 

There was no Obamacare or children health insurance, or medicaid, or welfare or snap back then, she got off that boat with full intend to work her ass off to make a better life, to live the American dream.

 

Now let's compare that mindset to today's immigrants

Do it, compare the mindset. Let's hear it. 

[row_33]

1 hour ago, Gary M said:

 

There was no Obamacare or children health insurance, or medicaid, or welfare or snap back then, she got off that boat with full intend to work her ass off to make a better life, to live the American dream.

 

Now let's compare that mindset to today's immigrants

 

since the Oil Shocks of the 1970s you can no longer dwell in the biggest cities in the world for $2 US a day