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3 hours ago, JohnC said:

You are missing the point. I'm not saying he is guilty or not. I don't know. By from the police standpoint what would be his motivation not to have this case resolved. His ex-girlfriend is accusing him. So what? That's not surprising because they have a multi-faceted conflict going on. 

 

What is the motivation for a person who not only had expensive jewelry loaned to him and his personal items taken  to not cooperate to get the case solved? If your cooperation is going to lead to implicating you you would be a fool to cooperate. And that is what his attorney would tell him. If his attorney was confident that his client had no involvement (direct or indirect) he would tell his client to cooperate. 

 

Let me give an example that would raise suspicions due to a lack of cooperation. If one's wife or girlfriend was missing and in the police interview of the boyfriend/husband he offered no cooperation that behavior in of itself would be suspicious. It doesn't prove any ting but it certainly gives a direction to the investigation. 

 

The police wouldn't be talking to McCoy to just get his stuff back: they'd be talking to him to make a case against him since he's the one being accused of setting it up.  The real question is why wouldn't she be cooperating with the police? 

 

But any lawyer will tell you not to talk to the police, innocent or not.

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Delicia Cordon is nothing but a gold digging scumbag hiding behind a pretty face and make up. 

 

That's why the police won't do jack.  Because she has no credibility.

 

First off, she has spent the last 10 years squatting and screwing over tenants, bouncing checks and not paying them, acting like a gold digger and POS when she was dating Michael Vick's brother.

 

Rip Off Report on Delicia Cordon Bouncing Checks and Squatting

 

Looking for the next rich NFL player to fleece, she meets Shady.  When he is sick and tired of her drama, she won't leave his house, having to go so far as to take her to court.  Mind you this has been going on for over a year.

 

That press conference she held was a train wreck.  A "Whoa is me, feel sorry for me, I'm an innocent victim" play.  She shows up in a textbook outfit, cream suit buttoned up to her neck with her hair in a bun as if she wants everyone to believe she is this conservative woman (why not show up in a tight lowcut shirt and tight jeans or a skin tight dress like all of her other Instagram photos?).  She spends her whole time at the podium trying to get people to feel sorry for her as if she has lived this honest and wholesome life.  The real truth is she is the one that created this whole situation.

 

First off, she posts on her social media account all of the jewelry that Shady gave her for two reasons.  First, she wants to let everyone know that Shady gave that to her (marking her territory) and second she's trying to show off to all of her friends and followers that she is "high status" when she herself doesn't have a dime to hang her hat on.  Then she sits in the press conference crying about how the robber "knew exactly what pieces of jewelry to ask for".  DUHHH!!!  You put the stuff on your social media account with close up video. 

 

Just so I understand, you post up close video of this jewelry for all of the world to see, then you want the police to believe that ONLY Shady knew what pieces of jewelry you owned?

 

Her attorney in that press conference was a train wreck as well.  The whole time Delicia is talking she is standing behind her flashing smiles as if to say "we about to get paid".  She bumbles through questions, even looking at Delicia once when a reporter asks about Shady's involvement and Delicia looks away until another attorney behind her steps in to save her and says Delicia is not answering questions.   She gives out the wrong phone number to call if anyone has any information, which the PI corrects.  When asked if they have any evidence linking Shady to the crime she stumbles and says "were not going to discuss what we have and we will continue to investigate".  In other words, they don't have jack because if they did Shady would be nailed to a wall.  Then they cry foul about the fact that Alpharetta police answer the 911 calls for their local jurisdiction, as if Alpharetta was in on this?  Creating conspiracy theories to help paint her as a victim of the police as well.

 

What they are not reporting is that Delicia went to collect insurance money for the stolen jewelry and Shady wouldn't allow her to because the jewelry was in his name.  If the jewelry was hers, why would she need Shady to give permission to pay her the insurance money.  She has no evidence linking Shady, and now they are trying to keep this in the public eye in hopes Shady finally gives in.

 

This whole scene yesterday was about one thing....getting paid.  That's why she wouldn't leave the house.  That's why she wouldn't return the jewelry.  That's why she is trying to sue Shady.  That's why she is keeping this whole situation on the forefront of the media.  She wants Shady to pay her out.  "LeSean wants to wait until the season is over, and I don't have time for that.  I need this taken care of now."   She is trying to pull on people's heart strings so she can get paid and take care of hers.

 

Problem is, she has serious credibility and character issues.  Don't you think the police know her history with past rentals?  Skipping out, bouncing checks, and acting like a POS scumbag?  If her attorney were able to present any evidence, this story has so many eyes on it they would have no choice but to prosecute.  Other NFL players have been prosecuted for less.  Police will charge someone if they have evidence, not because you are a pretty face looking to get paid.  They could care less about your Instagram account or hot outfits.  Your entitlement doesn't work with them.  If Delicia and her attorney's could keep their stories straight maybe the cops would have something.  Everyone at that press conference, including the private eye, has a vested financial interest in this case.  If she can squeeze money out of Shady, THEY ALL GET PAID!!  This isn't about finding justice for her.  This is about getting paid for themselves.

 

And that $20K she is offering as a reward has either come from Shady, her baby's daddy, or the premise that if she can get someone associated with Shady convicted she'll win her civil suit.  But even so, with all of the past history with her lying, skipping out on people, and bouncing checks, I'm all of a sudden supposed to believe she is going to honor that $20K?  Good luck with that one.

 

Vegas has it's share of entitled females who think their wanna be Instagram modeling careers warrants them sugar daddy's and all the finer things in life.  Most of which are strippers or escorts diluted with the thought that their body and looks is their one way ticket to financial freedom and flock from Cali and other states who view Sin City as a "mecca" for sugar daddy's.

 

I've seen first-hand women like this try to get over innocent men in order to get a paycheck.  Lying straight through their teeth.  Making up stories.  They will stop at nothing, they are relentless.  They truly believe that in today's world, they have the upper hand being a female and the conscious of society would actually feel sorry for them and believe them despite their motives and actions.  It's business to them, and they don't care whose life or image they ruin.  They are out to get theirs.

 

Problem is, male or female, your credibility is what people base their opinions on.  She has no credibility, and based on past allegations by innocent victims trying to do her a favor or do business with her she has an ugly character, and now she wants to paint this picture with the help of her weak lawyer that she is an honest, forthright, and caring person only trying to do the "right thing."

 

When you live an ugly life, you subject yourself to ugly experiences.  I do not condone violence, and if it is found that Shady is responsible for her getting beat up then let the hammer come down on him as it may.

 

But her effort to try this in the court of public opinion, when she has lived an ugly, selfish and self serving life over the last 10 years (If not longer), is pathetic.  Especially when all you've done is create situations over the last 10 years where you felt entitlement was more important than doing the right thing.

 

Wouldn't surprise me at all if the person who entered the home that night was named Karma. 

 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, BurpleBull said:

Wouldn't be surprised if the tipster was forced to wait until trial's end, AFTER she's won the case, to receive this 40K.  

But if she did have it, I doubt she'd relocate. She'd probably hate to part ways with the ambience that a home she didn't have to pay for creates.

 

She moved out shortly after the robbery

Posted
4 hours ago, JohnC said:

You are missing the point. I'm not saying he is guilty or not. I don't know. By from the police standpoint what would be his motivation not to have this case resolved. His ex-girlfriend is accusing him. So what? That's not surprising because they have a multi-faceted conflict going on. 

 

What is the motivation for a person who not only had expensive jewelry loaned to him and his personal items taken  to not cooperate to get the case solved? If your cooperation is going to lead to implicating you you would be a fool to cooperate. And that is what his attorney would tell him. If his attorney was confident that his client had no involvement (direct or indirect) he would tell his client to cooperate. 

 

Let me give an example that would raise suspicions due to a lack of cooperation. If one's wife or girlfriend was missing and in the police interview of the boyfriend/husband he offered no cooperation that behavior in of itself would be suspicious. It doesn't prove any ting but it certainly gives a direction to the investigation. 

 

John, before I would speculate there, I would have to know exactly what cooperation the police requested and exactly what information Shady and his attorneys did provide.

Depending upon the specifics of the request, I can think of many reasons why an attorney would advise his client not to cooperate.

 

In the example you give, certainly if one's loved one is missing and one refuses to cooperate, that is suspicious, but no person is missing here.  

 

 Here is what the police say about McCoy. 

"The homeowner, Mr. McCoy, who also may have had personal items stolen from the home during the July 10, 2018 home invasion, has not been cooperative in the investigation, despite requests by Milton Police detectives to Mr. McCoy's attorneys."

Note that they said "may have had", and there are no details about what was asked and not cooperated with. 

 

There also seems to be some mis-reporting in the media.  For example in the statement

From the onset, we have encountered numerous obstacles by all involved, and it has hindered our work not assisted. Detectives have been stonewalled or provided conflicting accounts of what occurred on July 10 at 392 Hickory Pass, the home belonging to Mr. LeSean McCoy.

It is not clear that McCoy is being said to have stonewalled or provided misleading statements about what occurred on July 10.   It is generally acknowledged that he was elsewhere and can not provide an account of what occurred that night.

 

12 minutes ago, KD in CA said:

The real question is, who is underwriting this golddigger for $40,000?

 

Maybe she pawned her jewelry

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1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

John, before I would speculate there, I would have to know exactly what cooperation the police requested and exactly what information Shady and his attorneys did provide.

Depending upon the specifics of the request, I can think of many reasons why an attorney would advise his client not to cooperate.

 

In the example you give, certainly if one's loved one is missing and one refuses to cooperate, that is suspicious, but no person is missing here.  

 

 Here is what the police say about McCoy. 

"The homeowner, Mr. McCoy, who also may have had personal items stolen from the home during the July 10, 2018 home invasion, has not been cooperative in the investigation, despite requests by Milton Police detectives to Mr. McCoy's attorneys."

Note that they said "may have had", and there are no details about what was asked and not cooperated with. 

 

There also seems to be some mis-reporting in the media.  For example in the statement

From the onset, we have encountered numerous obstacles by all involved, and it has hindered our work not assisted. Detectives have been stonewalled or provided conflicting accounts of what occurred on July 10 at 392 Hickory Pass, the home belonging to Mr. LeSean McCoy.

It is not clear that McCoy is being said to have stonewalled or provided misleading statements about what occurred on July 10.   It is generally acknowledged that he was elsewhere and can not provide an account of what occurred that night.

 

 

Maybe she pawned her jewelry

 

LOL....guessing she's agreed to hand over a large % of any settlement to her 'shady' lawyer.

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

The police wouldn't be talking to McCoy to just get his stuff back: they'd be talking to him to make a case against him since he's the one being accused of setting it up.  The real question is why wouldn't she be cooperating with the police? 

 

But any lawyer will tell you not to talk to the police, innocent or not.

You are off the mark. The police would be talking to McCoy to get as much information on the case as they could. He owns the house, he is attempting to get her out of his house, his relationship to the her, who owned the jewelry or in this case who was it loaned to him, who else would have knowledge about the security codes etc. The police would want to talk to Shady because it would be the obvious/routine thing to do in this case. 

 

With respect to what a lawyer would recommend to his client there is no automatic advice that would be given. It would depend on the circumstances. None of us have all the facts of this case. I recognize that. But what is evident to me is that there are suspicions about McCoy about his involvement. His non-cooperation based on his attorney's advice is the smart approach to take. 

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1 hour ago, dezertbill said:

Delicia Cordon is nothing but a gold digging scumbag hiding behind a pretty face and make up. 

 

That's why the police won't do jack.  Because she has no credibility.

 

First off, she has spent the last 10 years squatting and screwing over tenants, bouncing checks and not paying them, acting like a gold digger and POS when she was dating Michael Vick's brother.

 

Rip Off Report on Delicia Cordon Bouncing Checks and Squatting

 

Looking for the next rich NFL player to fleece, she meets Shady.  When he is sick and tired of her drama, she won't leave his house, having to go so far as to take her to court.  Mind you this has been going on for over a year.

 

That press conference she held was a train wreck.  A "Whoa is me, feel sorry for me, I'm an innocent victim" play.  She shows up in a textbook outfit, cream suit buttoned up to her neck with her hair in a bun as if she wants everyone to believe she is this conservative woman (why not show up in a tight lowcut shirt and tight jeans or a skin tight dress like all of her other Instagram photos?).  She spends her whole time at the podium trying to get people to feel sorry for her as if she has lived this honest and wholesome life.  The real truth is she is the one that created this whole situation.

 

First off, she posts on her social media account all of the jewelry that Shady gave her for two reasons.  First, she wants to let everyone know that Shady gave that to her (marking her territory) and second she's trying to show off to all of her friends and followers that she is "high status" when she herself doesn't have a dime to hang her hat on.  Then she sits in the press conference crying about how the robber "knew exactly what pieces of jewelry to ask for".  DUHHH!!!  You put the stuff on your social media account with close up video. 

 

Just so I understand, you post up close video of this jewelry for all of the world to see, then you want the police to believe that ONLY Shady knew what pieces of jewelry you owned?

 

Her attorney in that press conference was a train wreck as well.  The whole time Delicia is talking she is standing behind her flashing smiles as if to say "we about to get paid".  She bumbles through questions, even looking at Delicia once when a reporter asks about Shady's involvement and Delicia looks away until another attorney behind her steps in to save her and says Delicia is not answering questions.   She gives out the wrong phone number to call if anyone has any information, which the PI corrects.  When asked if they have any evidence linking Shady to the crime she stumbles and says "were not going to discuss what we have and we will continue to investigate".  In other words, they don't have jack because if they did Shady would be nailed to a wall.  Then they cry foul about the fact that Alpharetta police answer the 911 calls for their local jurisdiction, as if Alpharetta was in on this?  Creating conspiracy theories to help paint her as a victim of the police as well.

 

What they are not reporting is that Delicia went to collect insurance money for the stolen jewelry and Shady wouldn't allow her to because the jewelry was in his name.  If the jewelry was hers, why would she need Shady to give permission to pay her the insurance money.  She has no evidence linking Shady, and now they are trying to keep this in the public eye in hopes Shady finally gives in.

 

This whole scene yesterday was about one thing....getting paid.  That's why she wouldn't leave the house.  That's why she wouldn't return the jewelry.  That's why she is trying to sue Shady.  That's why she is keeping this whole situation on the forefront of the media.  She wants Shady to pay her out.  "LeSean wants to wait until the season is over, and I don't have time for that.  I need this taken care of now."   She is trying to pull on people's heart strings so she can get paid and take care of hers.

 

Problem is, she has serious credibility and character issues.  Don't you think the police know her history with past rentals?  Skipping out, bouncing checks, and acting like a POS scumbag?  If her attorney were able to present any evidence, this story has so many eyes on it they would have no choice but to prosecute.  Other NFL players have been prosecuted for less.  Police will charge someone if they have evidence, not because you are a pretty face looking

 

Wouldn't surprise me at all if the person who entered the home that night was named Karma. 

 

 

 

Whoa, bringing out the howitzer with that post!

 

i don’t know much, but I have followed Delecia Cordon on Instagram for a couple years mainly just to see what Shady is up. I follow several Bills,l. she posts a bunch.  And yeah, the vast majority of her posts are showing off her looks, body, and lavish partying, clothing, jewelry and vacation lifestyle.

I was always wondering how much $$ she must be getting to afford fancy private jet trips to Europe and Middle East.  And those $10k per flight fold out bed/seats on Emirates Airlines. She’s worked very hard on a career of dating wealthy athletes.

 

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29 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

John, before I would speculate there, I would have to know exactly what cooperation the police requested and exactly what information Shady and his attorneys did provide.

Depending upon the specifics of the request, I can think of many reasons why an attorney would advise his client not to cooperate.

 

In the example you give, certainly if one's loved one is missing and one refuses to cooperate, that is suspicious, but no person is missing here.  

 

 Here is what the police say about McCoy. 

"The homeowner, Mr. McCoy, who also may have had personal items stolen from the home during the July 10, 2018 home invasion, has not been cooperative in the investigation, despite requests by Milton Police detectives to Mr. McCoy's attorneys."

Note that they said "may have had", and there are no details about what was asked and not cooperated with.

 

There also seems to be some mis-reporting in the media.  For example in the statement

From the onset, we have encountered numerous obstacles by all involved, and it has hindered our work not assisted. Detectives have been stonewalled or provided conflicting accounts of what occurred on July 10 at 392 Hickory Pass, the home belonging to Mr. LeSean McCoy.

It is not clear that McCoy is being said to have stonewalled or provided misleading statements about what occurred on July 10.   It is generally acknowledged that he was elsewhere and can not provide an account of what occurred that night.

 

 

There is a good explanation why the police used the term "may have" had personal items taken. The reason is McCoy is not telling them what is missing. That would be an obvious question for the police to ask. What is known about the theft is that jewelry that was loaned to McCoy was targeted by the intruders who also hit the woman. The same jewelry that McCoy was trying to get back from his former girlfriend was specifically targeted by the thieves while leaving other articles. 

 

I'm not bothered or even honed in to the media reports. That is not what is raising my interest. There is nothing unusual about conflicting media reports because they don't have much of the information regarding to the case. Speculating and making assumptions is what they often do. What is noteworthy to me is that McCoy who had valuables (jewelry) loaned to him and was trying to get back from his former girlfriend was specifically taken by the intruders. 

 

What I said to Doc and am saying to you is that his attorney is wisely advising his client to not cooperate with the authorities. That suggests something to me. I am not conclusively saying that McCoy is guilty of anything. What I am definitely saying based on the circumstances that we know and how McCoy has behaved after the intrusion I am suspicious. 

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19 pages and I haven't read a bit, care to read a bit but only laugh that there is a debate on some attention whore seeking money from something brought on by her simply being an attention whore who loves drama.

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1 hour ago, Boyst62 said:

19 pages and I haven't read a bit, care to read a bit but only laugh that there is a debate on some attention whore seeking money from something brought on by her simply being an attention whore who loves drama.

If you didn't care about the topic then why did you bother to respond to it? Do you go to fish restaurants when you don't like fish in order to complain about the menu and food that mostly has fish? 

 

Do you got to NYC for a vacation and then complain that you don't like crowds?

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12 minutes ago, JohnC said:

If you didn't care about the topic then why did you bother to respond to it? Do you got to fish restaurants when you don't like fish in order to complain about the menu and food that mostly has fish? 

I was waiting 2 hours for lab results at the doctors and only so many highlight magazines to read...then I read TSW threads.

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1 minute ago, Boyst62 said:

I was waiting 2 hours for lab results at the doctors and only so many highlight magazines to read...then I read TSW threads.

Simple solution: Bring your Guns and Ammo and Farmers Almanac magazines with you so you can fill the time without resorting to threads that you don't want to read yet still do read. Or another way of looking at it if you like Country Western music don't tune in to the Rock and Roll station. 

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1 minute ago, Boyst62 said:

I was waiting 2 hours for lab results at the doctors and only so many highlight magazines to read...then I read TSW threads.

 

That's weak sauce, Cow-man.  You could throw in your $.02 about the Bills run blocking - I can't even figure out what it's suppose to look like if it worked 1/3 of the time.

You could shed some insight about the difference between 1st and 2nd half on D.  You could go run amok on PPP.   You could spill what you knew about Vontae that had you predicting he'd retire.

 

Lots of stuff you could do on TBD besides poke your head in this thread to loudly announce you don't care. 

 

I probably couldn't generally find agreement with John C on what color the sky is or whether water is wet, but he burned ya here.  Fish restaurants.  Menu.  ?

 

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19 hours ago, KD in CA said:

The real question is, who is underwriting this golddigger for $40,000?

 

It's probably a "you'll get your money when I get mine first."

 

19 hours ago, JohnC said:

You are off the mark. The police would be talking to McCoy to get as much information on the case as they could. He owns the house, he is attempting to get her out of his house, his relationship to the her, who owned the jewelry or in this case who was it loaned to him, who else would have knowledge about the security codes etc. The police would want to talk to Shady because it would be the obvious/routine thing to do in this case. 

 

With respect to what a lawyer would recommend to his client there is no automatic advice that would be given. It would depend on the circumstances. None of us have all the facts of this case. I recognize that. But what is evident to me is that there are suspicions about McCoy about his involvement. His non-cooperation based on his attorney's advice is the smart approach to take. 

 

No, every attorney will tell you not to cooperate with the police...unless you have evidence that proves your innocence (few people do, and it's highly unlike that the security cameras footage does that).  But that would be determined by the attorney after meeting with him/her. 

 

And while it's a fact that he wasn't in the area that night and didn't assault her himself, Cordon still thinks he had a hand in it, so the suspicion is already there whether he talks to police or not.  And he can recoup the money through insurance, once the police determine he's not guilty and after some time has passed.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

It's probably a "you'll get your money when I get mine first."

 

 

No, every attorney will tell you not to cooperate with the police...unless you have evidence that proves your innocence (few people do, and it's highly unlike that the security cameras footage does that).  But that would be determined by the attorney after meeting with him/her. 

 

And while it's a fact that he wasn't in the area that night and didn't assault her himself, Cordon still thinks he had a hand in it, so the suspicion is already there whether he talks to police or not.  And he can recoup the money through insurance, once the police determine he's not guilty and after some time has passed.

I disagree with you that every attorney will tell you not to cooperate with the police. But if you think otherwise that is fine. 

 

Where I do agree with you is that his attorney is wisely advising his client not to cooperate because he is implicated based not on hard evidence but circumstances. I'm not saying McCoy is guilty of anything but I am saying that based on the circumstances of this case in which the jewelry he was trying to get back from his voluptuous babe was specifically targeted in the house raid. There is no question that McCoy is under suspicion. And he should be.

Posted
36 minutes ago, JohnC said:

I disagree with you that every attorney will tell you not to cooperate with the police. But if you think otherwise that is fine. 

 

Where I do agree with you is that his attorney is wisely advising his client not to cooperate because he is implicated based not on hard evidence but circumstances. I'm not saying McCoy is guilty of anything but I am saying that based on the circumstances of this case in which the jewelry he was trying to get back from his voluptuous babe was specifically targeted in the house raid. There is no question that McCoy is under suspicion. And he should be.

 

No attorney worth his/her salt would advise a client, current or prospective, to talk to the police before he/she has done so first.  Which was my point.

 

And yes he's under suspicion.  Not talking to the police won't change that.  Unless he has evidence that proves he wasn't involved (which there is no way for him to do), there is no need to talk to the police.  But as I pointed out, some of his stuff was stolen as well and she's also not fully cooperating with police, both of which are very odd.

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6 hours ago, Doc said:

 

No attorney worth his/her salt would advise a client, current or prospective, to talk to the police before he/she has done so first.  Which was my point.

 

And yes he's under suspicion.  Not talking to the police won't change that.  Unless he has evidence that proves he wasn't involved (which there is no way for him to do), there is no need to talk to the police.  But as I pointed out, some of his stuff was stolen as well and she's also not fully cooperating with police, both of which are very odd.

If McCoy is not going to cooperate with the police then I doubt he will file an insurance claim. Filing a false insurance claim could also place him in jeopardy for additional charges of fraud. It is doubtful if an insurance company is going to pay out a large claim when the owner of the policy refuses to cooperate with  the investigating authorities. The insurance company would surely have their suspicions regarding this case where the claimant is acting oddly as a so called victim. 

 

I'm not saying McCoy is guilty. I just don't know. However, that doesn't mean that I am not suspicious of him.

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