#34fan Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Except, by definition, he wasn't. A conscientious objector refuses to perform military service on moral, religious, or ideological grounds. At the time, DT didn't come forward with any statements indicating he had moral reservations to the U.S. presence in Vietnam. The record doesn't show any... The record also shows no reports of the "bone spurs" his deferment was based on prior to 1968. You'd think the avid tennis, squash, and basketball player would have experienced them before. Then there's the matter of him forgetting which foot he had the bone spurs on, as well as the doctor who issued the diagnosis! Is he a victim? -Or an ill-tempered, pathological lying, buffoon backed by low-IQ enablers? Discuss. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 You're trying too hard..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, #34fan said: Except, by definition, he wasn't. A conscientious objector refuses to perform military service on moral, religious, or ideological grounds. At the time, DT didn't come forward with any statements indicating he had moral reservations to the U.S. presence in Vietnam. The record doesn't show any... The record also shows no reports of the "bone spurs" his deferment was based on prior to 1968. You'd think the avid tennis, squash, and basketball player would have experienced them before. Then there's the matter of him forgetting which foot he had the bone spurs on, as well as the doctor who issued the diagnosis! Is he a victim? -Or an ill-tempered, pathological lying, buffoon backed by low-IQ enablers? Discuss. So bone spurs is a medical issue that didn't exist until 1968? You're a bigger !@#$ing idiot than Dexter. Edited August 11, 2018 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 Who cares? It's now the 21st century (has been for 17 years now!) and this question has absolutely f*ck-all to do with the Trump presidency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 11, 2018 Author Share Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: So bone spurs is a medical issue that didn't exist until 1968? You're a bigger !@#$ing idiot than Dexter. I'm sorry, this thread is for adults who can read. You and west-tard should resume finger-painting. Edited August 12, 2018 by #34fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, #34fan said: I'm sorry, this thread for adults who can read. You and west-tard should resume finger-painting. What is your opinion of the morality of the Vietnam war? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 I don’t blame anyone for getting out of going to Nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 How many Presidents / Presidential candidates got out of Nam via the National Guard etc or whatever ? WTF cares? The vast majority of politicians didn’t serve ; means jack squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: How many Presidents / Presidential candidates got out of Nam via the National Guard etc or whatever ? WTF cares? The vast majority of politicians didn’t serve ; means jack squat. This where the left goes when it suddenly dawns on them that Stormy Daniels was nothing more than another porn star in search of a national tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 1 hour ago, #34fan said: I'm sorry, this thread for adults who can read. You and west-tard should resume finger-painting. Losing sucks, I know. You should be used to it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: How many Presidents / Presidential candidates got out of Nam via the National Guard etc or whatever ? WTF cares? The vast majority of politicians didn’t serve ; means jack squat. The other dodgers aren't attacking the credibility of others on a daily basis via twitter. 1 hour ago, LABillzFan said: This where the left goes when it suddenly dawns on them that Stormy Daniels was nothing more than another porn star in search of a national tour. She was good enough for Trump to have unprotected sex with. 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: What is your opinion of the morality of the Vietnam war? Generally speaking, I'm not certain war has anything at all to do with "morality". 10 minutes ago, westside said: Losing sucks, I know. Yes you do. There anything you actually look forward to? -Other than death, I mean? Edited August 12, 2018 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, #34fan said: The other dodgers aren't attacking the credibility of others on a daily basis via twitter. She was good enough for Trump to cheat with. Generally speaking, I'm not certain war has anything at all to do with "morality". But not participating in a war that doesn't have anything at all to do with morality begets a screaming moral judgement by you? Edited August 12, 2018 by 3rdnlng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, #34fan said: I'm sorry, this thread is for adults who can read. Which begs the question as to why you are posting in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, #34fan said: The other dodgers aren't attacking the credibility of others on a daily basis via twitter. She was good enough for Trump to have unprotected sex with. Good for him, I’d probably have had unprotected sex with her too. As for the tweets, the draft thing doesn’t make him wrong about these “ others” credibility. Whomever you might be referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: But not participating in a war that doesn't have anything at all to with morality begets a screaming moral judgement by you? Of course it does, because #resist. Edited August 12, 2018 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: How many Presidents / Presidential candidates got out of Nam via the National Guard etc or whatever ? WTF cares? The vast majority of politicians didn’t serve ; means jack squat. McCain and Kerry served (a lot of good that did them). Their opponents over the years tried to sully their war records. There may be some truth to McCain's, but the allegations against Kerry was bs. Kerry in particular served and then joined the antiwar activist so he served his country and then stood up for what he believed to be an immoral war saying in front of Congress, "We rationalized destroying villages in order to save them. We saw America lose her sense of morality as she accepted very coolly a My Lai and refused to give up the image of American soldiers who hand out chocolate bars and chewing gum." If Trump had a record like that I'd have a lot more respect for him, but it wasn't that uncommon to try and get out of going to Vietnam so I'm not going to constantly bring it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: But not participating in a war that doesn't have anything at all to with morality begets a screaming moral judgement by you? Cowardice is a perfectly good reason to stay out of a fight. if Trump simply owned being afraid to go, we could put this to bed... You wouldn't need to cook-up some bullsh_t "conscientious objector" scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, #34fan said: Cowardice is a perfectly good reason to stay out of a fight. if Trump simply owned being afraid to go, we could put this to bed... You wouldn't need to cook-up some bullsh_t "conscientious objector" scenario. What is the matter with you? Are you too stoned to keep track of things? I never said one word about conscientious objections or gave any reason(s) for Trump not going other than for medical reasons. Now you are calling Trump a coward and claiming he should admit being afraid to go. Where are you getting this horseshit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Can't debate his foreign policy. Can't debate his economic policy. He is a blowhard, but most people don't care as long as he produces His election has made it clear that people now recognize that there has been a DC elite ruling class that needs to be addressed. I know....................I'll criticize him getting out of the Vietnam War 50 years ago. Liberalism is a mental disorder Discuss................ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I never said one word about conscientious objections or gave any reason(s) for Trump not going other than for medical reasons. So you have an even more retarded twin that posted the following? 2 hours ago, 3rdnlng said: What is your opinion of the morality of the Vietnam war? 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: But not participating in a war that doesn't have anything at all to do with morality begets a screaming moral judgement by you? You're clearly trying to portray Trump as a conscientious objector. -Quit the goose-stepping and backpedaling. 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: Liberalism is a mental disorder Discuss................ Hm. Fabulous Idea for a thread.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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