billsfan1959 Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 3:30 AM, Fadingpain said: Congratulations. You Allen supporters finally found an ally. The wise and knowledgable Adam Schein. Expand If we eliminated all of your posts that conveyed some variation of "Allen sucks," my guess is your remaining post count would be somewhere around 6... 3
Seanbillsfan2206 Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 1:13 AM, Magnetar said: Allen is the same trap that Kyle Boller and Ryan Leaf were, Bills FO took it hook line and sinker. Expand This is just pure laziness...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 1:27 AM, Magnetar said: Well, I guess you hope he will be properly taught, that is no guarantee. Plus, you can't really teach accuracy, that's been proven many times over, with very few exceptions. The odds are, the Bills will be looking for another franchise QB while a guy like Darnold is going to the playoff's every year. Expand i love me some 75 post troll accounts.
eball Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 1:19 AM, Magnetar said: That's true, but I was mainly talking about the FO getting all weak in the knees over Allen's physical tools, and ignoring all the accuracy issues. Expand Precisely something they did NOT do. I think you're probably trolling, but Beane spoke of following Allen since 2016 and going over every throw on tape with coaches to determine if there was an inherent accuracy problem or merely correctable mechanics and/or other issues that impacted completion percentage. Oh, and did you see a lot of accuracy issues Thursday night? Look, Allen may or may not turn into a legitimate NFL superstar but comparing him to a couple of lumps of coal like Boller and Leaf is lazy. Bye bye now. 1
bg17 Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 Magnetar has a very jeffismagic way about him/her. Is it possible...
Magnetar Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 11:03 AM, eball said: Allen since 2016 and going over every throw on tape with coaches to determine if there was an inherent accuracy problem or merely correctable mechanics and/or other issues that impacted completion percentage. Expand Yes, ofc I heard that, I consume the same media sources on the Bills as everyone else. To me it sounded like he was explaining away a desire to draft a tools kid. I also heard Brian Bilick come clean about how the Ravens were able to convince themselves that Boller was legit, and he now knows they were way off base and diluted.
aristocrat Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 12:05 PM, Magnetar said: Yes, ofc I heard that, I consume the same media sources on the Bills as everyone else. To me it sounded like he was explaining away a desire to draft a tools kid. I also heard Brian Bilick come clean about how the Ravens were able to convince themselves that Boller was legit, and he now knows they were way off base and diluted. Expand Are you basing his accuracy off his Comp percentage? Lazy
SouthNYfan Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) On 8/11/2018 at 1:28 AM, Teddy KGB said: Are you almost done ? Expand He's a new account who is up to 77 posts in line 24 hours, who waltzed in here posting like he's been here for a while, so it's clearly somebody who was banned on another account. Of his 77 posts, like 90% are "Allen bashing" He might even be Rosen's mom. Edited August 11, 2018 by SouthNYfan 2 1
eball Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 (edited) On 8/11/2018 at 12:05 PM, Magnetar said: Yes, ofc I heard that, I consume the same media sources on the Bills as everyone else. To me it sounded like he was explaining away a desire to draft a tools kid. I also heard Brian Bilick come clean about how the Ravens were able to convince themselves that Boller was legit, and he now knows they were way off base and diluted. Expand Apparently you forgot they could have drafted Rosen if they wanted to, or traded down and gotten Rudolph later. They weren’t “stuck” with Allen and therefore having to defend the pick. Your arguments are spurious and lazy, and there is no evidence Beane and McD are 1/10 the arrogant prick Billick is. Edited August 11, 2018 by eball 1 1
Teddy KGB Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 12:20 PM, eball said: Apparently you forgot they could have drafted Rosen if they wanted to, or traded down and gotten Rudolph later. They weren’t “stuck” with Allen and therefore having to defend the pick. Your arguments are spurious and lazy, and there is no evidence Beane and McD are 1/10 the arrogant prick Billick is. Expand 1
GimmeSomeProcess Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 Boller and Allen shouldn’t even be in the same breathe. Allenn has some accuracy issues boller was just flat out innaccuarte. It took Boller to his senior year to complete over 50% of his passes and never passed for more than 2800 yards. This was in a tedford offense that is qb friendly.
MAJBobby Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 12:05 PM, Magnetar said: Yes, ofc I heard that, I consume the same media sources on the Bills as everyone else. To me it sounded like he was explaining away a desire to draft a tools kid. I also heard Brian Bilick come clean about how the Ravens were able to convince themselves that Boller was legit, and he now knows they were way off base and diluted. Expand I am still waiting for a response to the Foster Bomb.
Rico Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 3:30 AM, Fadingpain said: Congratulations. You Allen supporters finally found an ally. The wise and knowledgable Adam Schein. Expand I haven’t followed him lately, but I thought he was great on Sirius (back when I had Sirius). Glad to hear he’s an Allen fan.
nedboy7 Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 2:51 AM, Magnetar said: You should not go through life expecting everyone to agree with you. Expand Where is teef? Dreaming of the new frencheyes?
Trogdor Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 The one nice thing about Buffalo being passed over normally is that you don't get all of this hype after one half of preseason football. He might develop or he might not, but it's way too early to say boom or bust. I hate when they compare them to pros with actual stats. This is going to be a brewing qb controversy when this guys should just get the chance to develop.
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 12:14 PM, SouthNYfan said: He's a new account who is up to 77 posts in line 24 hours, who waltzed in here posting like he's been here for a while, so it's clearly somebody who was banned on another accounts. Expand Correct, but FIFY 1
Roundybout Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 11:32 AM, bg17 said: Magnetar has a very jeffismagic way about him/her. Is it possible... Expand Actually, old Jeff seems to be on Allen's side over on BuffaloRumblings. Who woulda thunk?
BufBills83 Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 I think the tools available to analyze quarterbacks to see if they are going to be successful at the next level are much more advanced now than they were when Leaf and Boller were coming into the NFL. I haven't seen anything to convince me otherwise that Bean and McDermott put a ton of review and studying of Josh Allen to see if he would be able to be successful under the coaching staff. So I am going to believe that they know what they are doing. The GM/coaching staff has shown that it can make things happen, so why doubt them now? Allen may never develop, but it's not from a lack of trying on anyone's side. Also, there is no way McDermott or Bean are gone in the next 2 or 3 years. Even if Allen doesn't pan out, I don't think the Pegula's would fire them because of just that one decision. A lot of people had Allen high on their draft boards. There is always risk involved with these picks. You just have to regroup and keep at it. There have been so many positives in the last year and a half that barring an absolute meltdown, they will be here for I would say at least 5 more years, but I would say for a long while. This organization needs stability at the GM and coaching positions that it hasn't had in a long time.
Dr. Who Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 11:32 AM, bg17 said: Magnetar has a very jeffismagic way about him/her. Is it possible... Expand Nope. Jeffismagic posts over at buffalorumblings. While not terribly enthusiastic, he isn't bashing Allen. On 8/11/2018 at 2:25 PM, BillsEnthusiast said: Actually, old Jeff seems to be on Allen's side over on BuffaloRumblings. Who woulda thunk? Expand Ahh, I don't read that board much. Maybe he's become more positive like most Bills' fans with a reasonably open mind.
MDH Posted August 11, 2018 Posted August 11, 2018 On 8/11/2018 at 1:13 AM, Magnetar said: Allen is the same trap that Kyle Boller and Ryan Leaf were, Bills FO took it hook line and sinker. Expand His strong arm doesn't mean he'll be a good QB but it also doesn't disqualify him from being a good QB just because other strong armed QBs failed. That's just as ridiculous as people praising his pre-season performance because they were mesmerized by his arm talent. His decision making, accuracy and leadership will ultimately be what determines if he succeeds or not. The arm is just icing.
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