H2o Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Ok, let's just say that Astro is hinting at Khalil Mack here. I don't see Beane parting with a 1st Round pick, just doesn't seem like his m.o. with the way he's handled things over the last year or so. Maybe two 2nd Round picks and two 3rd's over 2019 and 2020 as well as some players involved. Maybe, just maybe, he would throw in the 2020 1st because he expects the team to be on a different path by then. I don't think he gives up the 2019 1st at this point. One would think that Lawson and Washington are two guys they would like to ship out, but are they really any sort of compensation at this point? I would like to have Mack on this team as much as anyone else, but I don't know if Beane is willing to part with what the Raiders would want in return for him. You also have to take into account that Mark Davis is a delusional idiot and may not be one that can be plausibly reasoned with. Also, there is the contract issue involved. Mack is likely after $20,000,000 per season. It would probably be a deal in the 4 year 75-80 mill range with at least 3/4 of that guaranteed. He is a dominant player though so it wouldn't be like Mario all over again. Whatever happens, whatever moves are made, I'm pretty confident in the FO in place and believe they will do what is best for our team not only now, but in the future as well.
BuffaloRebound Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 I’d trade a 1st rounder for Mack if it was top 5 protected, but not sure NFL allows what is a common practice in NBA due to lack of draft lottery which NFL totally needs to institute. If Bills pick falls in top 5, then Raiders get choice of our 2nd rounder or 2020 1st rounder.
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 If it's actually just not done at WR, I wonder if they're looking at Travis Benjamin as well?
HumbleAndHungry Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Both the LA Rams and the Oakland Raiders have put themselves in a financial predicament regarding their two defensive star players. I wouldn't be surprised if Aaron Donald and Kahlil Mack both were traded.
Royale with Cheese Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Finkle Is Einhorn said: Both the LA Rams and the Oakland Raiders have put themselves in a financial predicament regarding their two defensive star players. I wouldn't be surprised if Aaron Donald and Kahlil Mack both were traded. Lets just go get Mack and Donald.
njbuff Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 I don't know how the Bills would fit Mack under the cap for this season............... but I digress.
sunshynman Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 13 hours ago, Virgil said: F5 Hit Control + F4, that will get you to the latest post!
ProcessAccepted Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 12 hours ago, Mickey said: I'd trade three firsts for Mac and throw Shaq in for free. And if it took four, I'd do it dammit. Great to see Buddy Nix is still interested in Bills football ??
Captain Hindsight Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Tom Condon was at Bills camp today according to Rodak. Is he anyones agent?
klos63 Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, donbb said: / That article echoes the poster who said earlier the Raiders literally cannot afford to pay Mack. In my opinion, this lessens Mack's trade value. I'd offer the Raiders a 2020 1st round pick and Shaq Lawson. can't see the Raiders wanting to do something like that. An underachieving player and a draft pick 2 years away? A likely lower draft pick than a 2019 pick would be.
billsbackto81 Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 1 hour ago, donbb said: That article echoes the poster who said earlier the Raiders literally cannot afford to pay Mack. In my opinion, this lessens Mack's trade value. I'd offer the Raiders a 2020 1st round pick and Shaq Lawson. Gotta do better than that. They'll want next years 1st and maybe a 2020 2nd along with a player like Lawson or even Hughes. And you know what? I'd pay it!!! Mack (Thumper)/ Edmunds (Enforcer)/ Milano (Hawk) . WOW!!! Use the cap space savings for talent on Offense and away we go!!!
Alphadawg7 Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 As much as we all would love Mack, let’s stay grounded here as there is just no way anyone inside the Bills leaked we are after Mack or any other specific target to Astro. Astro most likely just repeated what someone likely told him, that Beane is busy eyeing or working on other moves. But there just is no way someone gave him details ahead of those moves. That being said, Beane still looking at other moves in general still opens up the possibility for Mack, all be it a low one IMO as I would find it hard to believe the Raiders would trade him, let alone trade him for a package Beane would be willing to pay. I think it more likely suggests Shaq, Washington, or someone could be moved out. But hey, Beane is a witch so I wouldn’t put it past him to pull off some big trade either
Trogdor Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 13 hours ago, Bill_with_it said: Whaley made sure that wouldn’t happen by doubling down on a previous mistake. For the love of god, our line was stacked that year and we had nobody outside of Woods at WR. It made much more sense to draft a WR at the time. 1
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Gotta do better than that. They'll want next years 1st and maybe a 2020 2nd along with a player like Lawson or even Hughes. And you know what? I'd pay it!!! Mack (Thumper)/ Edmunds (Enforcer)/ Milano (Hawk) . WOW!!! Use the cap space savings for talent on Offense and away we go!!! Mack would be a DE in this scheme, not a linebacker. 1 minute ago, Irv said: Shady, Hughes and a 1st for Mack. 1
Irv Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cornette's Commentary said: Mack would be a DE in this scheme, not a linebacker. Shady and Hughes are on the other side of the hill. You think there is anybody in next years draft better than Mack? Sorry.
billsbackto81 Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Just now, Cornette's Commentary said: Mack would be a DE in this scheme, not a linebacker. The man's the ultimate hybrid and can play obviously either position. I was having grandiose visions of our back 3 and you ruined it!!
Cornette's Commentary Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Irv said: Shady and Hughes are on the other side of the hill. You think there is anybody in next years draft better than Mack? Sorry. The other side of WHAT hill? You want to potentially trot out a rookie QB with Marcus Murphy and Chris Ivory as the starting running backs, just so you can wear a red, white and blue Khalil Mack jersey on Sundays? Please.
pantoute Posted August 7, 2018 Posted August 7, 2018 Fairly easy to say when you know that Beane is NEVER done.
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