Interesting Astro Tweet re: Beane

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

32 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:

 

Both have a certain charm possessed by the ultra-arrogant. 

 

Its a prerequisite for membership in the cult of sharp 

[IgotBILLStopay]

2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

glad to see that he is doubling down and not backing off. Mack watch continues!!

[Big Turk]

6 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

The Bills don’t have the cap space this year. Even if they do there is still the risk that they again pay huge money to one player and the performance drops. 

Cap space is easily manipulated

[chris heff]

3 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

 

 

Brad Johnson had a really good year that year. Really good. 8th in TDs while sporting an insane 22:6 TD/INT ratio. 10th in YPG. 4th in passer rating. 8th in completion percentage among guys with 200+ attempts. They didn't win in spite of Johnson.

 

Johnson was no journeyman. He was a guy who could be really good but only managed it inconsistently.

 

Did the Steelers win that Super Bowl Ben's rookie year? Or did they lose it the same way they did a couple of years earlier with O'Donnell at QB. Only after Roethlisberger got authentically good did they win a title.

 

I have to give you Dilfer, a game manager and not a great one but Flacco had a good year and a terrific playoffs. He's been pretty bad since but he was a major reason they won that SB.

 

It's true that great defenses with a mediocre QB win a SB occasionally. (McMahon, Doug Williams, Dilfer, Flacco if you want to count him and maybe a few others, but not Rypien who was probably top two in the league that year before he took what at the time seemed an unexplainable nosedive before we heard about his concussion problems , not Foles who isn't in the SB without Wentz, and not Hostetler who also isn't in that game without Simms playing most of the year.)  But it tends to happen around 10% of the time. That's not the route you want to model. You want to model the method that wins 90%.

Johnson played for the Vikings twice, the London Monarchs, the Redskins, the Buccaneers and the Dallas Cowboys. He is the definition of Journey man. He also played for two different colleges. If you read my original comment it says Ben got the Steelers “close” in his rookie year.

[Virgil]

There’s no way it can be something big without anyone in the media catching wind of it. 

 

Especially if it’s taking this long to develop 

[Jamie Nails]

Feel like Astro is somehow setting us up for the ultimate dad joke 

[MJS]

7 hours ago, DieHardBillsFan said:

We would have to trade something of high value and then pay Mario Williams money to keep him. Honestly this money would be going to the wrong side of the ball. The story/player is really great, but the defense is already solid as is. The Offensive line and the WR need the investments right now or save it for the future. If Hughes was dropped then that money would make it somewhat bearable, but then we have dead weight on next years cap. Love Mack though. If we got him, I'd have his jersey by game day.

 

This is how I feel.

[transient]

2 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said:

Beane is just probably going to announce that it is ladies night at the Monday night game. 

 

... and Shady’s in charge of the invites ...with a special guest appearance by Russ Brandon. 

Edited August 9, 2018 by transient

[Johnny Hammersticks]

9 minutes ago, MJS said:

 

This is how I feel.

 

If you can get a guy who in four years has made 3 pro bowls and was named 1st team all-pro twice (once at 2 positions), you do just about anything to get your hands on him.  He’s likely the best defensive player in the NFL, pound for pound.

 

It would sting if Beane gave up a king’s ransom for him, but he is a game changer and I would find a way to cope ?

 

That said, I still can’t accept that Mack to Buffalo is even possibility.

[Clyde Smith]

Get that man a shield!

[purple haze]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

There’s no way it can be something big without anyone in the media catching wind of it. 

 

Especially if it’s taking this long to develop 

I don't recall any whispers about Sammy and Darby getting shipped on the same day.  Beane is a serious dude.  If he told folks surrounding whatever might be going on to stay quiet or he will walk away, I could see that being honored.

 

All  that said, Mack, Donald or Dez are the most obvious something big's that could happen.   Although, with Beane it could be something else totally out of the blue.  What if it were OBJ? ?  

Edited August 9, 2018 by purple haze

[Richard Noggin]

That depends. Can Botterill loan Beane some of the Sabres draft capital next year? Like a professional soccer thing: I'd bet the Pegulas would pay the Pegulas a handsome sum for another 1st rounder or two (Sabres have THREE picks in the first round in '19, ftr).

[ndirish1978]

4 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

LOL @YoloinOhio posting the link to my tweet before I did. How do I get scooped on my own attempt to get info?

Edited August 9, 2018 by ndirish1978

[Richard Noggin]

10 hours ago, LSHMEAB said:

Why would anyone take the time to vote unsure?

Because I don't know if they should do it, without knowing contract parameters, how far away the offense is from being even watchable, and how likely it is that their most recent 1st rounder will develop into something.

 

Pass rushers matter, but the Bills went down this road throughout the drought. The evidence tells us to think long and hard about such a move. 

[Richard Noggin]

14 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

Mack's great and a Buffalo hero. But we have Hughes and Murphy at DE. Both legit starters that we're signed on to pay starter money to.

 

The way I see it, DE is set at the moment. Would Mack be an upgrade? Yes. But is it really worth it to Beane to give up what it would take in both cap and trade compensation for a position he feels he already covered this offseason? I don't see it.

If I may respectfully counter this argument that the Bills are "set" at the edge rusher position: When was Jerry Hughes fairly/consistently successful (measurably) in his career? Was it ever as a #1 pass rusher? 

 

I'd argue that Hughes is a luxurious #2 rusher (like, when that big guy with the mega deal was on the team), and a middling #1 guy (I like him, but he's not elite...and he's not young). I'd also argue that Murphy showed some promise in one season, then got hurt, and is currently dealing with the nagging limitations many guys face while working their ways back onto the field. There's a first-rounder behind them who might provide serviceable rotational depth, but will never be elite. If this paragraph sounds reasonable to you, and I sincerely hope it does, then one could argue that the Bills should look to upgrade the position.

[Paulus]

A better question is what is Mack going to generate, if the Raider trade him? 

 

Also, trade is highly doubtful, imho. 

 

But, to answer my question, I guess 2 firsts.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

are we there yet?

 

i want a pony

 

[eball]

I've avoided this thread like the plague, but have to admit I'm intrigued by Astro's "doubling down" tweet yesterday.  He doesn't seem like the sort to promote unsubstantiated activity.

[26CornerBlitz]

37 minutes ago, eball said:

I've avoided this thread like the plague, but have to admit I'm intrigued by Astro's "doubling down" tweet yesterday.  He doesn't seem like the sort to promote unsubstantiated activity.

 

"We shouldn't have to wait much longer if l'm right " Is that doubling down? 

[Rufridr101]

I knew the story had merit on Tuesday when bill polian talked about the mack situation it sounded like he was talking directly to Terry pegula hinting that he needs to be patient just looking at the Oakland raiders salary cap tells me there's merit to the hype