Heavy Kevi Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 https://amp-si-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/amp.si.com/nfl/2018/08/04/ray-lewis-hall-fame-weekend-atlanta-murders?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1#amp_tf=From %1%24s Very interesting read where the writer basically asserts that the NFL has proven willing to cover up (or ignore/obstruct the truth) issues of their stars. Kind of hard to argue with his assertion. It's not even really a "hit piece", but more of an article meant to bring these practices to light. This particular writer describes his experiences reporting this story for years and the intimidation and roadblocks he faced just trying to get the story. I don't think this is particularly controversial, but is something I feel like most football fans may be interested in reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 as we're seeing with the Urban Meyer story, Big Football has many skeletons in its closet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Kevi Posted August 6, 2018 Author Share Posted August 6, 2018 46 minutes ago, stuvian said: as we're seeing with the Urban Meyer story, Big Football has many skeletons in its closet Yes.... And I would add "big" everything has skeletons in their closets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Pretty powerful stuff, thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Thanks for sharing. Plenty of reasons we should all collectively roll our eyes when the league, or any individual franchise, attempts to present itself as a moral compass on anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 If Ray actually did do the crime I bet there’s a good chance in his head he doesn’t even believe it. I mean if your protected that much... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 3 hours ago, Another Fan said: If Ray actually did do the crime I bet there’s a good chance in his head he doesn’t even believe it. I mean if your protected that much... I agree with your take. I personally would take the time too meet the POS anywhere he chooses to just read him this article. then leave. Because it's doubtful he would read, or hear it any other way. No one in his world will ever bring anything about the tragedy. He's been through the drill before. Interesting TO gets hammered and maybe deserves some of it for his attitude. And Lewis gets in on the first ballot.Eff him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 Any individual with a PR department or publicist does this. Humans are all very flawed creatures; and celebrity attempts to white wash these flaws for monetary and power reasons. This is the case with all organizations, governments, etc. I'm not sure why people are so surprised by this kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 I suspect that the victims are still dead, so the questions live on. I don’t know all the details here, but I was quite surprised top see him bounce back as a public figure - and the face of anything good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stony Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Best Player Available said: I agree with your take. I personally would take the time too meet the POS anywhere he chooses to just read him this article. then leave. Because it's doubtful he would read, or hear it any other way. No one in his world will ever bring anything about the tragedy. He's been through the drill before. Interesting TO gets hammered and maybe deserves some of it for his attitude. And Lewis gets in on the first ballot.Eff him. The Ray Lewis/TO comparison is interesting. There's certainly a case to be made that there are crimes/personalities the NFL is ok with, and others they're not. Edited August 6, 2018 by stony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Shotgunner said: Yes.... And I would add "big" everything has skeletons in their closets. Everyone has skeletons in their closet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 40 minutes ago, Augie said: I was quite surprised top see him bounce back as a public figure - and the face of anything good. Super Bowl wins will do that to a person... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 The funny thing is that every time I see Ray Lewis speak, he comes across as self righteous and usually works Jesus into the mix, pretty quickly. He strikes me as a psycho who truly believes he did nothing wrong, even though he almost certainly did. I enjoy watching football players play football on a football field. Any other context and I don't really want to know they exist. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 2 hours ago, Augie said: I suspect that the victims are still dead, so the questions live on. I don’t know all the details here, but I was quite surprised top see him bounce back as a public figure - and the face of anything good. Really to become the pinnacle of nfl moral superiority somehow. He’s the god fearing uber motivating and ultimate teammate with the murder as not even an asterisk but is a footnote to a footnote to a special edition limited print of the book on his career. It’s anazing how his reputation has so little hint of it for many fans. 1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said: Everyone has skeletons in their closet. Define skeletons? Cause I definitely have some things I’m not super proud of but none of the murder variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeGOATski Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Sharpe told Lewis that the families of the slain men find it difficult to see Lewis idolized by millions of fans, believing he knows more about the killings than he shared, and asked what he had to say to those families. Lewis responded, "God has never made a mistake. That's just who He is, you see.... To the family, if you knew, if you really knew the way God works, He don't use people who commits anything like that for His glory." That's the foundation for his religious beliefs and he'll continue evangelizing as a way to suppress the memory and emotions of that night. 7 hours ago, NoSaint said: Define skeletons? Cause I definitely have some things I’m not super proud of but none of the murder variety. Literal skeletons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 10 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Everyone has skeletons in their closet. That's why you bury them. Don't keep them in your bedroom. What is this, amateur hour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 I'm not sure what's worse: The NFL protecting Ray Lewis or a writer acting like him and his ilk are some kind of moral compass. The mass media has ruined far more lives than the "voice" they've supposedly given the "voiceless". If I was ever in a situation where something bad happened and I wasn't anything more than a bystander, the very last thing I'd ever do is talk to anyone in the media. I'm not saying Ray Lewis is innocent - I have no idea what happened that night and I haven't read much about it. But I've seen enough bad journalism in my life to not trust much of what's actually published. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 49 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said: I'm not sure what's worse: The NFL protecting Ray Lewis or a writer acting like him and his ilk are some kind of moral compass. The mass media has ruined far more lives than the "voice" they've supposedly given the "voiceless". If I was ever in a situation where something bad happened and I wasn't anything more than a bystander, the very last thing I'd ever do is talk to anyone in the media. I'm not saying Ray Lewis is innocent - I have no idea what happened that night and I haven't read much about it. But I've seen enough bad journalism in my life to not trust much of what's actually published. I don't look at the media as a moral compass nor any other kind of compass. I read or listen occasionally to what's in the media and make personal judgements. Most often I just take the information with a heavy dose of salt and leave it at that. The weight of the continuing sensationalism is tiring to be sure. I think one unintended consequence of Trump's election is to "out" the media for what it truly is: First and foremost a business that carefully selects the "products it puts on the shelf for sale." Caveat emptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 19 hours ago, Shotgunner said: https://amp-si-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/amp.si.com/nfl/2018/08/04/ray-lewis-hall-fame-weekend-atlanta-murders?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1#amp_tf=From %1%24s Very interesting read where the writer basically asserts that the NFL has proven willing to cover up (or ignore/obstruct the truth) issues of their stars. Kind of hard to argue with his assertion. It's not even really a "hit piece", but more of an article meant to bring these practices to light. This particular writer describes his experiences reporting this story for years and the intimidation and roadblocks he faced just trying to get the story. I don't think this is particularly controversial, but is something I feel like most football fans may be interested in reading. This starts in high school and continues through college, minor/development leagues and the professional level of all sports. The level of importance that the U.S. (generally speaking) places on sports success boggles my mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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