BuffaloRush Posted August 5, 2018 Author Posted August 5, 2018 8 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: FTR, I edited out one line from Ittakestime’s response as a warning that we won’t tolerate rude comments like ‘what a dumb question’. #civility No problem... I can see why someone would think it’s a dumb question on paper, but I really don’t think he’s as much of a lock as some think
ColoradoBills Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 9 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Druggies are always a risk of falling off the wagon. So, he isn't a lock..... .....well if you put it that way. Football performance based along with draft position makes him a lock. If Marcell Dareus was still on the team, in your scenario, he wouldn't be a lock either.
EmotionallyUnstable Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Lock. They are all in in their boys. 11 minutes ago, jr1 said: I think he's safe unless he has another incident Local media today asked him to elaborate on the issue and he side stepped that question referring to not wanting to rehash the truama associated with the issue. Seems like he is doing good, but you never know. 29 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: FTR, I edited out one line from Ittakestime’s response as a warning that we won’t tolerate rude comments like ‘what a dumb question’. #civility #theresnosuchthingasadumbquestion 26 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Druggies are always a risk of falling off the wagon. So, he isn't a lock..... I was 22 once too. If cameras were always on me, I coulda done a lot worse. Give him a chance
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, bigK14094 said: Druggies are always a risk of falling off the wagon. So, he isn't a lock..... There is always one !@#$ in the crowd
Boatdrinks Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 No. He’s going to be favored to make it, but a lock ? No way. That means he cannot possibly eff up enough to be traded or something else. Given his offseason and his ( brief) history of mental lapses , dropsies or whatever you call it he can’t be considered a lock.
Augie Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Oui. Nobody is a true lock, but he makes it. As for the druggie comment, I think we are advised to ignore ignorance.
brianthomas Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Barring any unforeseen future breakdowns or discipline problems, he is absolutely a lock for the team. Teams just don't part with 2nd round picks in their 2nd year with the team
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Do you think the Bills can swing a deal with Montreal to get Manziel for Jones 'even steven'? If no, then Buffalo might as well keep him. I wonder how the 'new' Johnny Football would fit into Coach McDermott's regimented system.
Fadingpain Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Do you think the Bills can swing a deal with Montreal to get Manziel for Jones 'even steven'? If no, then Buffalo might as well keep him. I wonder how the 'new' Johnny Football would fit into Coach McDermott's regimented system. The new Johnny Football is about the same as the old Johnny Football, minus the drinking. He sucks.
Boatdrinks Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, brianthomas said: Barring any unforeseen future breakdowns or discipline problems, he is absolutely a lock for the team. Teams just don't part with 2nd round picks in their 2nd year with the team Barring any “ unforeseen ... problems” wasn’t the question. Could a Zay Jones problem now be considered “ unforeseen”? Due to his issues last season coupled with his offseason, he’s not a lock.
brianthomas Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: Barring any “ unforeseen ... problems” wasn’t the question. Could a Zay Jones problem now be considered “ unforeseen”? Due to his issues last season coupled with his offseason, he’s not a lock. Any unknown that happens in the future that we don't know about is unforeseen. I prefaced my statement with that because as it stands now, he's a lock to make the team. If something else happens, then they'd have to factor it into their decision & evaluate whats best for the team at that point. This whole thread is about predicting what will happen in the future. Given who our WR corps is right now, unless something happens he makes the team. Does that make more sense to you now?
Albany,n.y. Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 He's a lock to still be employed by the Bills. If he's struggling I could see the team stashing him away for a while on IR.
Boatdrinks Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Just now, brianthomas said: Any unknown that happens in the future that we don't know about is unforeseen. I prefaced my statement with that because as it stands now, he's a lock to make the team. If something else happens, then they'd have to factor it into their decision & evaluate whats best for the team at that point. This whole thread is about predicting what will happen in the future. Given who our WR corps is right now, unless something happens he makes the team. Does that make more sense to you now? Lol, I know what unforeseen means. But I’ll stand by my statement that any further issues with Jones may no longer qualify as unforeseen due to his past. I’ll agree that teams rarely move on from 2nd round picks in year two, but Jones just may be a different case, as we know. Therefore , he can’t be considered a “ lock”. He’s not exactly a 4 year vet with good production and a squeaky clean track record.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Just now, Albany,n.y. said: He's a lock to still be employed by the Bills. If he's struggling I could see the team stashing him away for a while on IR. Not without a legitimate injury.
SouthNYfan Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 He's a lock because there is no reason to give up on him already. He's on a cheap contract, young, and was a second round pick. Don't just throw him away. Especially with new QBs he might develop a connection with. 1
frostbitmic Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 I'd be surprised if he were cut, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on IR or the PUP list.
Boatdrinks Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said: He's a lock to still be employed by the Bills. If he's struggling I could see the team stashing him away for a while on IR. We don’t know with these guys in charge. The Whaley years are clearly over. Now, Jones wasn’t a Whaley guy so he’s got that going for him...which is nice.
26CornerBlitz Posted August 5, 2018 Posted August 5, 2018 Just now, frostbitmic said: I'd be surprised if he were cut, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up on IR or the PUP list. He was just activated from NFI. What would be the reason to be on PUP or IR?
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