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32 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

The only thing I can ever think of that shows the passage of time in Breaking Bad was the birthday bacon.  Now if only someone with incredible eyes had somehow caught a glimpse of Walt's DOB on his license or something.

 

they are a long way from getting the lab to Gus's precise/prissy acceptable standard of working condition

 

where they turn to now will be another plot in season 5

 

 

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11 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

The constant mention of Jimmy seeing a therapist along with the cold opening is what made me think his speech was genuine as it was just repressed emotions about Chuck's death coming out.  I should've known better especially after his speech to the kid shortly before that.  Great acting there.  There's still some time between when they meet the Breaking Bad timeline as there was no Kim and the meth lab was complete at the time of Breaking Bad.  We also have to see what becomes of Nacho and how he crosses paths with Jimmy.  A complaint of mine this season is that there were two separate story lines that didn't overlap.  My guess is they go two more seasons and the overlap will happen in season 6.

 

Mike basically mercy killing that German guy was hard to watch, but at least he saved his wife.  Fit perfectly with his character as it would've been easy for him to wait until Gus's goons to show up and kill him without notice.

 

 

I would love 2 more seasons, but the talk from the producers has been they don’t see this going further than how many seasons of BB there was.  That would be 5 seasons.  Although if memory serves BB’s final season was stretched over a longer period, and was 16 episodes.  I just don’t see how they can bridge 4 years or so to BB, and wrap BCS in just 10 episodes.  Either more than one season, or they extend the number of episodes.

 

Thing is, if there is a spin-off planned (maybe Gus?) they’d probably want to get moving before the actors age too much more.  Been quite a few years since BB came out.

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After a re-watch, the show lost so much without McKean in a major role this season, Jimmy’s takedown of Chuck to close last season was a million times better than his speech this time.

 

there was never any believable passion between Jimmy and Kim to replace the brotherly rivalry that was missing this season.

 

 

 

 

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Loved the episode.   The scene where Mike kills him was great television.    I love at the end where he says he's going to be practicing under a different name, i just wish they had put a little bit of an explanation into it.  Does he not want  to tread on the McGill name anymore?   Or does he just want to make his own name?    

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Just watched it last night, didnt really leave with a cliff hanger but set up the rest of the show now that Saul is born. 

 

This now sets up the final leg of the series. We have now seen how Saul comes to be, and how Mike became Gus's guy and how the meth lab was built. I guess theres a few ways to go about the series now. They could do another season showing the lab getting finished somehow now without its head builder, and Saul setting up his practice, or they could maybe stretch another season or 2 out of it by jumping forward a bit with Saul up and running and the lab being finished and getting up and running.

 

I think the last scene of the show should be the moment that Saul meets Walter, tying the 2 shows together. I still think that Gene is trying to reconnect, if he hasnt already, with Kim who I would expect leaves him and goes back home after realizing who he really is and can be. Could also see another curveballs thrown that the person Jimmy tells his assistant to call (if it isnt Kim who could also be practicing under a new name) is the girl he wanted to give the scholarship to. You find out she is the female version of him and work her through law school (maybe with his help) and she helps him with things?

 

I really dont see another spinoff of the series though. 

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4 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:

Loved the episode.   The scene where Mike kills him was great television.    I love at the end where he says he's going to be practicing under a different name, i just wish they had put a little bit of an explanation into it.  Does he not want  to tread on the McGill name anymore?   Or does he just want to make his own name?    

 

Everyone BB fan knows that answer like they know what time the alarm clock is going off tomorrow

 

 

4 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

Just watched it last night, didnt really leave with a cliff hanger but set up the rest of the show now that Saul is born. 

 

This now sets up the final leg of the series. We have now seen how Saul comes to be, and how Mike became Gus's guy and how the meth lab was built. I guess theres a few ways to go about the series now. They could do another season showing the lab getting finished somehow now without its head builder, and Saul setting up his practice, or they could maybe stretch another season or 2 out of it by jumping forward a bit with Saul up and running and the lab being finished and getting up and running.

 

I think the last scene of the show should be the moment that Saul meets Walter, tying the 2 shows together.

 

I really dont see another spinoff of the series though. 

 

If everyone lives in real life they’ll squeeze the death out of it

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:

Loved the episode.   The scene where Mike kills him was great television.    I love at the end where he says he's going to be practicing under a different name, i just wish they had put a little bit of an explanation into it.  Does he not want  to tread on the McGill name anymore?   Or does he just want to make his own name?    

I think he knows that he will always be associated with and tied to Chuck because of his name and will never get a chance because of it. Also this allows him to wipe the slate clean and start over with his own identity

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3 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

I think he knows that he will always be associated with and tied to Chuck because of his name and will never get a chance because of it. Also this allows him to wipe the slate clean and start over with his own identity

I never watched BB so most of this is very new to me.   I've got netflix now so one of these shut in weekends i'm going to start binge watching that show. 

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10 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:

I never watched BB so most of this is very new to me.   I've got netflix now so one of these shut in weekends i'm going to start binge watching that show. 

 

Go for it, I think he shows up in season 2 of BB

 

i would bigly enjoy seeing Saul from BB for the first time after getting the prequel first 

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21 minutes ago, Soda Popinski said:

I never watched BB so most of this is very new to me.   I've got netflix now so one of these shut in weekends i'm going to start binge watching that show. 

Same here, haven't watched it yet, own the series on DVD, keep saying I'm going to watch it but haven't been able to.

 

Most nights I have shows or movies on my computer while working but BB is one of those shows I want to watch and pay attention to so it's hard to be working at the same time.

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12 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

Same here, haven't watched it yet, own the series on DVD, keep saying I'm going to watch it but haven't been able to.

 

Most nights I have shows or movies on my computer while working but BB is one of those shows I want to watch and pay attention to so it's hard to be working at the same time.

 

the first season drags along..... in BB......

 

you are forewarned...

 

 

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1 hour ago, row_33 said:

 

Everyone BB fan knows that answer like they know what time the alarm clock is going off tomorrow

 

 

 

 

I don't think you need to watch Breaking Bad to understand Jimmy's motives.  This whole season has painted a very clear picture that he wants absolutely nothing to do with Chuck.  That was pretty much the entire purpose of his portion of the story this entire season, right up to being disgusted by the decision for Chuck's memorial scholarship.  Once he got his license back, he no longer needed to take advantage of anything Chuck-related, so he completely cut ties.

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28 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

I don't think you need to watch Breaking Bad to understand Jimmy's motives.  This whole season has painted a very clear picture that he wants absolutely nothing to do with Chuck.  That was pretty much the entire purpose of his portion of the story this entire season, right up to being disgusted by the decision for Chuck's memorial scholarship.  Once he got his license back, he no longer needed to take advantage of anything Chuck-related, so he completely cut ties.

 

 

i was trying to suggest that a fan of BCS should watch BB.... :D

 

i guess you could take the opening of his destroying his office with Lady Liberty and the Declaration of Independence into full appreciation without seeing BB.

 

Jimmy's motives are cloudy and change on the dot, who can understand, just appreciate this fictional character and pray this isn't a future relative on the horizon...

 

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Boyst62 said:

Construction crew will get killed in their sleep or something. They're all goners.  Gas in their trailers or something

 

Did they ever give a full explanation of the list of people that Mike was protecting and giving money at the end of his run on Breaking Bad?

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3 hours ago, Soda Popinski said:

Loved the episode.   The scene where Mike kills him was great television.    I love at the end where he says he's going to be practicing under a different name, i just wish they had put a little bit of an explanation into it.  Does he not want  to tread on the McGill name anymore?   Or does he just want to make his own name?    

 

A few episodes back, Jimmy used "Saul Goodman" on his phone-selling business cards. I guess he decided to keep that and get as far away from his brother's shadow as possible.

25 minutes ago, shrader said:

 

Did they ever give a full explanation of the list of people that Mike was protecting and giving money at the end of his run on Breaking Bad?

 

They were people loyal to Gus and they took a fall for him. Payments were meant to keep them quiet while locked up. Walt White had other plans though.  There was also money Mike was setting aside for his granddaughter.

2 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

Go for it, I think he shows up in season 2 of BB

 

i would bigly enjoy seeing Saul from BB for the first time after getting the prequel first 

 

BB is arguably the best drama series ever made. Not exaggerating.

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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

BB is arguably the best drama series ever made. Not exaggerating.

 

I've watched the whole series through no less than 6 times (once backwards) and there are still new details and nuances I pick up that I didn't notice before.  
The layers of complexity and detail and how everything lines up not only within BB but also BCS is beyond remarkable!  What an amazing team of writers Vince has put together. 

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1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

A few episodes back, Jimmy used "Saul Goodman" on his phone-selling business cards. I guess he decided to keep that and get as far away from his brother's shadow as possible.

 

They were people loyal to Gus and they took a fall for him. Payments were meant to keep them quiet while locked up. Walt White had other plans though.  There was also money Mike was setting aside for his granddaughter.

 

BB is arguably the best drama series ever made. Not exaggerating.

Seasons 4 and 5 of BB were very intense.

 

Another show I liked a lot is Fargo. Seasons 1 and 2 were very good. Season 3 started off dull and confusing, but finished strong.

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