Lurker Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 11:28 PM, That's No Moon said: Sounds more like some people at New Era weren't pleased to have Russ on board. Expand The only people that matter at New Era are the Kochs, so that's unlikely. Although maybe Chris didn't ask Lindsay what she thought before he made the hire... New Era CEO Chris Koch and his wife Lindsay Koch pose before New Era Cap presents a James Harden Q & A and interactive design session on February 11, 2016 in Toronto, Canada.
Torrey Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 These media idiots need to be very careful on how they navigate this. !@#$ing Clowns.
Marv's Neighbor Posted July 31, 2018 Posted July 31, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 9:03 PM, Lurker said: Why's Leslie Moonves (CBS), John Lasseter (Pixar), Garrison Keillor (Prairie Home Companion), Charlie Rose (PBS) and on and on and on gone? #MeToo (even when it can't be proven) doesn't mean a guy's not talented and indeed, at the top of the ladder... Expand That's very true but it seems to be a different type ladder now a days.
JoPar_v2 Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 11:35 PM, Lurker said: The only people that matter at New Era are the Kochs, so that's unlikely. Although maybe Chris didn't ask Lindsay what she thought before he made the hire... New Era CEO Chris Koch and his wife Lindsay Koch pose before New Era Cap presents a James Harden Q & A and interactive design session on February 11, 2016 in Toronto, Canada. Expand Why isn’t it likely that other executives and rank-and-file got wind of this and made a stink, so Koch reversed course? That seems like a perfectly reasonable explanation.
vincec Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 Is it really necessary to black ball someone for life for a mistake they made? Just wondering. 1
YoloinOhio Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 As far as we know Russ didn’t do anything “illegal” and deserves to work again in some capacity. But it’s just terrible optics by New Era of all companies. 1
Rico Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 12:09 AM, vincec said: Is it really necessary to black ball someone for life for a mistake they made? Just wondering. Expand Russ Brandon? Absolutely. 2
26CornerBlitz Posted August 1, 2018 Author Posted August 1, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 12:09 AM, vincec said: Is it really necessary to black ball someone for life for a mistake they made? Just wondering. Expand No. But it's only been a short time since his departure from PS&E. To have him resurface as an executive of New Era with a close affiliation to the Bills/Sabres is interesting in an awkward way to say the least. 3
May Day 10 Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 12:09 AM, vincec said: Is it really necessary to black ball someone for life for a mistake they made? Just wondering. Expand Its a business ethics issue and something he has made a habit of for at least 17 years (to my knowledge). If i am an owner of a company, especially in the current climate of "me too" social media, 24 hour news, quick public opinion, and lawyers at every corner... i do not want to hire a guy i cannot trust in ethical matters when dealing with the other gender. Russ Brandon is not worth the risk or headache. Its not about punishing him for wrong doing. Its about exposing your business to risk that is not needed 3
vincec Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) On 8/1/2018 at 12:13 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: No. But it's only been a short time since his departure from PS&E. To have him resurface as an executive of New Era with a close affiliation to the Bills/Sabres is interesting in an awkward way to say the least. Expand It’s a company that he has a relationship with and that he could probably help from a marketing standpoint. It’s a step down in terms of leadership responsibility. Should he have applied at Starbucks? On 8/1/2018 at 12:15 AM, May Day 10 said: Its a business ethics issue and something he has made a habit of for at least 17 years (to my knowledge). If i am an owner of a company, especially in the current climate of "me too" social media, 24 hour news, quick public opinion, and lawyers at every corner... i do not want to hire a guy i cannot trust in ethical matters when dealing with the other gender. Russ Brandon is not worth the risk or headache. Its not about punishing him for wrong doing. Its about exposing your business to risk that is not needed Expand The risk from his behavior is New Era’s call. One that they’re being pressured to reverse. Edited August 1, 2018 by vincec
Green Lightning Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 8:46 PM, Call_Of_Ktulu said: If Russ became CEO for Apple all apple products gone. CEO for McDonalds I would never eat there again. CEO for Chevy I would never buy one again and trade in my Impala. CEO of Duffs i would just eat Anchor Bar. Expand Great, more for us.
That's No Moon Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 11:35 PM, Lurker said: The only people that matter at New Era are the Kochs, so that's unlikely. Although maybe Chris didn't ask Lindsay what she thought before he made the hire... New Era CEO Chris Koch and his wife Lindsay Koch pose before New Era Cap presents a James Harden Q & A and interactive design session on February 11, 2016 in Toronto, Canada. Expand Not necessarily. If there were other executives, or even underlings who got wind of this and were pissed all it takes is a call to good ol' Timmah to get the media poop storm started. 1
North Buffalo Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 Look, he cheated on his wife... in politics it often spells an end to a career generally. For an organization such that preaches integrity character etc, it is bad optics so close to them... not sure if there is more to the story, but he left a lot of bad feelings around the Bills and Sabres doing his job... my feeling was it was just a nail in the coffin. Sometimes guys like that are good hustlers and marketers and companies hire them as long as they stay below the radar. Russ was exposed so now he is poison locally... probably needs to lay low for a while if he wants to stick around... nature of the beast.
That's No Moon Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) On 8/1/2018 at 12:27 AM, North Buffalo said: Look, he cheated on his wife... in politics it often spells an end to a career generally. For an organization such that preaches integrity character etc, it is bad optics so close to them... not sure if there is more to the story, but he left a lot of bad feelings around the Bills and Sabres doing his job... my feeling was it was just a nail in the coffin. Sometimes guys like that are good hustlers and marketers and companies hire them as long as they stay below the radar. Russ was exposed so now he is poison locally... probably needs to lay low for a while if he wants to stick around... nature of the beast. Expand He really needs to switch towns. The fishbowl of Buffalo is so small there is no way for him to lay low. Also, exclusive video from a high level New Era BoD meeting, provided by Dunkirk Don Edited August 1, 2018 by That's No Moon Had more thoughts. 1
JoPar_v2 Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) On 8/1/2018 at 12:27 AM, North Buffalo said: Look, he cheated on his wife... in politics it often spells an end to a career generally. For an organization such that preaches integrity character etc, it is bad optics so close to them... not sure if there is more to the story, but he left a lot of bad feelings around the Bills and Sabres doing his job... my feeling was it was just a nail in the coffin. Sometimes guys like that are good hustlers and marketers and companies hire them as long as they stay below the radar. Russ was exposed so now he is poison locally... probably needs to lay low for a while if he wants to stick around... nature of the beast. Expand Exactly. No one is saying he can’t or shouldn't work again. But it doesn’t look great that he was thrown an executive level position by one of his buddies 2 months after being forced out for inappropriate behavior. Oh and that buddy happens to run one of the Bills’ most prominent corporate partners. Should he work again? Absolutely. But New Era probably should have felt this out a little more before setting up his phone line and office and then lying about it. (Same goes for Delaware North, or Dunn Tire, or any other highly visible Bills’ partner.) Edited August 1, 2018 by JoPar_v2 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) On 7/31/2018 at 11:18 PM, May Day 10 said: Remember when he went to the media and told them the raiders wanted to hire him? Expand Maybe he meant 'panty Raiders'. Next stop: Go head up the corporate division responsible for the new app for radio streaming at WGR550. Edited August 1, 2018 by Ridgewaycynic2013 1
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 12:09 AM, vincec said: Is it really necessary to black ball someone for life for a mistake they made? Just wondering. Expand I think it depends upon how they see their past doings...was it a mistake in their view, or were they the "fall guy"? It also depends upon the position you place someone in, how much trust/supervisory capacity etc they have
Rico Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) On 8/1/2018 at 12:32 AM, That's No Moon said: He really needs to switch towns. The fishbowl of Buffalo is so small there is no way for him to lay low. Also, exclusive video from a high level New Era BoD meeting, provided by Dunkirk Don Expand He should really leave the country. Maybe Rogers Communications has a job for him in Toronto. Edited August 1, 2018 by Rico
vincec Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 On 8/1/2018 at 12:57 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: I think it depends upon how they see their past doings...was it a mistake in their view, or were they the "fall guy"? It also depends upon the position you place someone in, how much trust/supervisory capacity etc they have Expand I agree. Unfortunately there’s no way to know these things at this time. We don’t know what Brandon thinks of his firing because he refuses to comment and we don’t know what position he was hired for at New Era.
Lurker Posted August 1, 2018 Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) On 8/1/2018 at 12:01 AM, JoPar_v2 said: Why isn’t it likely that other executives and rank-and-file got wind of this and made a stink, so Koch reversed course? That seems like a perfectly reasonable explanation. Expand Does that work at your company much? LOL... On 8/1/2018 at 12:15 AM, May Day 10 said: If i am an owner of a company, especially in the current climate of "me too" social media, 24 hour news, quick public opinion, and lawyers at every corner... i do not want to hire a guy i cannot trust in ethical matters when dealing with the other gender. Expand Chris Koch and Russ have been close friends for 25 years. Trust isn't an issue, but optics might be... Edited August 1, 2018 by Lurker 1
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