Malazan Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: After 3 seasons with a passing RB it will seem like a huge improvement. fixed it for you 5 4
Capco Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Logic said: Here's the thing: It is possible to scheme up inferior offensive talent and get production out of them. Everyone knows the Bills offense lacks playmakers. With creative offensive playcalling, though, the likes of which Daboll is already demonstrating in camp, you can scheme guys open. Players like McCloud, Foster, Dupre, and Reilly are making plays in camp against a good defense because the playcalls are creative, the formations are put together with intent to create mismatches, and the playmakers we DO have (McCoy, Benjamin, Clay) are being moved around the formation. So anyone who says "Schemes don't matter, its all about execution!"...I disagree. I think schemes DEFINITELY matter. I think you're going to see the Bills offense improve from last year not based on upgraded talent, but based on creative playcalling and exploitation of mismatches. That's Daboll. I'm cautiously optimistic about anything offense-related when it comes to the Bills, but this is the most excited I've been about the offense in a while. Most of us remember how Chan was able to consistently put up a decent offense despite having some of the worst offensive talent in the league to work with. Scheming success is possible to do, but only a few coordinators can do it. Let's hope Daboll is one of them. Edited July 28, 2018 by Capco 2
nedboy7 Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 46 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said: Neither was TT? Really clever. You fit right in here. Ungrateful fan page. 1
Buffalo Boy Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Really clever. You fit right in here. Ungrateful fan page. Let’s agree that it’s 2018 and Josh Allen is on his way to being better than both of them.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Nice. One post in and you turn this into a Tyrod thread. The truth hurts some people I guess.
Chandler#81 Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Boca BIlls said: Nate isn't a QB. Actually, he is. Has been for 9 years now and the Bills are employing him in this capacity. in other words, Calm Down.
Behindenemylines Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Modern-we will have none of that! Quick where's Jauron to right the ship 1
3rdand12 Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Actually, he is. Has been for 9 years now and the Bills are employing him in this capacity. in other words, Calm Down. 9 years huh ? seems like just two. But my math is fuzzy : )
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Your take was terrible. What dumb ass was happy with Nates performance against SD because it wasn't Tyrod besides you? And as Kirby said, the Bills had the PERSONNEL which includes Tyrod, to run this system the past few years and didn't. No Scott your take is what’s terrible. Let me use your words. What dumbass says I was happy with the Chargers game? What I was saying is - 3 to 5 steps and release. What a pleasure it will be to see an actual offense not affraild to pass the damn ball. 9 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: 9 years huh ? seems like just two. But my math is fuzzy : ) High school and college. 8 years at least. Edited July 28, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan 2
hemma Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 I think Daboll is going to turn out to be a great hire. A real good fit for a team on the rise.
The Now Moment Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) New England style offense with a carolina style defense...I could get used to that. Edited July 28, 2018 by Buffalo30 1
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, Behindenemylines said: Modern-we will have none of that! Quick where's Jauron to right the ship Kaye Stephenson as 'special advisor to Coach Jauron'.
3rdand12 Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 53 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: No Scott your take is what’s terrible. Let me use your words. What dumbass says I was happy with the Chargers game? What I was saying is - 3 to 5 steps and release. What a pleasure it will be to see an actual offense not affraild to pass the damn ball. High school and college. 8 years at least. MmmHmm... i know that Bud. NFL QB ? two years. and no one can take that away from him. if you get drafted or even udfa and are on a roster you are and NFL quality player. . 1
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Logic said: Seeing reports from camp so far of the Bills' offense featuring multiple RPOs, sprintouts, triple option looks, ample pre-snap motion, empty sets out of 21 personnel, formations that force mismatches... Could it be that for the first time in what feels like, I dunno...20 years or so...the Buffalo Bills could actually run a modern NFL offense?! I know, I know, it seems impossible. But I am absolutely LOVING what I'm hearing/seeing so far in terms of formations, concepts, and personnel. Very encouraging! It will take forever for Madden to catch up the change in the O. ...and I am not trying to be sarcastic. As a fan it gets annoying.
Boca BIlls Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Actually, he is. Has been for 9 years now and the Bills are employing him in this capacity. in other words, Calm Down. He is actually a QB counselor.
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: MmmHmm... i know that Bud. NFL QB ? two years. and no one can take that away from him. if you get drafted or even udfa and are on a roster you are and NFL quality player. . As a pro 1 year obviously. I was was just trying to make the math work. For thr Nate haters Yes Nate failed miserably in the Chargers game but beyond that to say he isn’t a QB in the NFL is 1000% incorrect. Edited July 28, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan
Boca BIlls Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 So funny people talk about Nate as if he could ever be an actual starter.
Kirby Jackson Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: As a pro 1 year obviously. I was was just trying to make the math work. For thr Nate haters Yes Nate failed miserably in the Chargers game but beyond that to say he isn’t a QB in the NFL is 1000% incorrect. Is it @GunnerBill? There is a chance that Nate is out of the league this year. I don’t think that it is likely but there is a chance. There’s a real chance that he is out after this year. Guys like him come and go in this league all of the time. Guys like Zac Dysert, Garrett Grayson, Jake Rudock, Keith Wenning, Taj Gibson, Garrett Gilbert, etc... Late round QBs don’t last long. If they don’t show signs teams get another guy in that can. If Peterman is the 3rd QB this year he won’t be on the roster in 2019. There’s won’t be a line of teams looking to add him either. Those teams will take their own guy late in the draft. That’s the way it works. 1 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 Just now, Kirby Jackson said: Is it @GunnerBill? There is a chance that Nate is out of the league this year. I don’t think that it is likely but there is a chance. There’s a real chance that he is out after this year. Guys like him come and go in this league all of the time. Guys like Zac Dysert, Garrett Grayson, Jake Rudock, Keith Wenning, Taj Gibson, Garrett Gilbert, etc... Late round QBs don’t last long. If they don’t show signs teams get another guy in that can. If Peterman is the 3rd QB this year he won’t be on the roster in 2019. There’s won’t be a line of teams looking to add him either. Those teams will take their own guy late in the draft. That’s the way it works. No my comment was not directed at gunner (well at least in this thread). People said EJ would be out of the league too so........ Ya never know
NoSaint Posted July 28, 2018 Posted July 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Logic said: Seeing reports from camp so far of the Bills' offense featuring multiple RPOs, sprintouts, triple option looks, ample pre-snap motion, empty sets out of 21 personnel, formations that force mismatches... Could it be that for the first time in what feels like, I dunno...20 years or so...the Buffalo Bills could actually run a modern NFL offense?! I know, I know, it seems impossible. But I am absolutely LOVING what I'm hearing/seeing so far in terms of formations, concepts, and personnel. Very encouraging! We will see. We heard similar from the Nate Hackett era, for instance, among several others.
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