Pete Posted August 10, 2018 Posted August 10, 2018 Marcus Murphy and Ray Ray will make team IMO. So will Croom. Right now I am guessing KB, Kerley, Holmes, Ray Ray, Coleman at WR with Malachi and Riley to practice squad. It will be interesting if we keep 4 TE with Logan Thomas too. 9 position slots to WR/TE seems about right
GunnerBill Posted August 13, 2018 Author Posted August 13, 2018 Latest update - new additions in italics. Colour changes highlighted. Refer to the opening post for colour coding. Greyed out and struck through indicates no longer on the team. Quarterback Josh Allen AJ McCarron Nathan Peterman Running Back LeSean McCoy Chris Ivory Patrick DiMarco (FB) Travaris Cadet Taiwan Jones Marcus Murphy (previously in RED) Keith Ford Tight End Charles Clay Nick O'Leary (previously in BLACK) Logan Thomas Jason Croom (previously in RED) Khari Lee Keith Towbridge Wide Receivers Kelvin Benjamin Jeremy Kerley Zay Jones Andre Holmes Corey Coleman Rod Streater Ray-Ray McCloud Austin Proehl Kaelin Clay Malachi Dupre Brandon Reilly Cam Phillips Robert Foster Offensive Line Dion Dawkins Ryan Groy Jordan Mills Russell Bodine Wyatt Teller Vlad Ducasse (previously in BLUE) John Miller (previously in BLUE) Marshall Newhouse (previously in BLUE) Conor McDermott Adam Redmond De'Ondre Wesley Ike Boettger Defensive Line Kyle Williams Harrison Phillips Star Lotulelei Trent Murphy Jerry Hughes (previously BLUE) Shaq Lawson Adolphus Washington Eddie Yarbrough Owa Odighizuwa Terrence Fede Marquavius Lewis Tenny Palepoi Mike Love Tyrunn Walker Linebacker Tremaine Edmunds Matt Milano Ramon Humber (previously BLACK) Lorenzo Alexander Julian Stanford (previously BLUE) Deon Lacey (previously RED) Tanner Vallejo Keenan Robinson Mat Boesen Corey Thompson Cornerback Tre'Davious White Vontae Davis Taron Johnson Phillip Gaines Levi Wallace Lafayette Pitts Breon Borders Safety Jordan Poyer Micah Hyde Rafael Bush Siran Neal (previously listed at corner) LJ McCray Kelcie McCray Dean Marlowe Special Teams Stephen Hauschka Colton Schmidt Reid Ferguson Cory Carter Tyler Davis 1
Dr. Who Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 Random observations: TE position is really up in the air. Are Mike Love or Ike Boettger anywhere close to blue? Still have Ray-Ray in the red? I think if he continues to exhibit chemistry with Allen, they will find a way to keep him.
GunnerBill Posted August 13, 2018 Author Posted August 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Random observations: TE position is really up in the air. Are Mike Love or Ike Boettger anywhere close to blue? Still have Ray-Ray in the red? I think if he continues to exhibit chemistry with Allen, they will find a way to keep him. Ray-Ray was the closest non-Blue to being in Blue. However, hearing McDermott talk it appears they still want to see more from him in practice. McD has referenced that he "has a bit of gamer in him" and showed up best at the red and blue scrimmage and the first game, which suggests they are looking for a bit more consistency before they consider him a very likely roster guy. He is close to the blue and gave me longest pause for thought. Both Love and Boettger have real shots for me at this point but both are on that bubble competing for those last 4 or 5 spots on the roster. They may even in an odd way be competing against each other. Do you carry the 9th DL or the 9th OL? These are the sorts of questions that I think the Bills will be having right up to cutdown day. 1
YattaOkasan Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 I was most surprised at the number of RBs you put as probable and you dont think theres a punting competition. Good work as always. Can you summarize the number of spots not taken in blue and black with the remaining reds fighting for them? Thanks.
GunnerBill Posted August 13, 2018 Author Posted August 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, YattaOkasan said: I was most surprised at the number of RBs you put as probable and you dont think theres a punting competition. Good work as always. Can you summarize the number of spots not taken in blue and black with the remaining reds fighting for them? Thanks. 44 spots in either blue or black at this stage with 9 very much open to fight for. Other than QB I don't see any unit as a done deal though OL and RB are getting closer. I think because both play teams it is possible Murphy and Cadet both make the cut.
CommonCents Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 A few people have mentioned that Davis looks horrible in camp. If this is indeed true, who is the next best option to play outside?
GunnerBill Posted August 13, 2018 Author Posted August 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Commonsense said: A few people have mentioned that Davis looks horrible in camp. If this is indeed true, who is the next best option to play outside? Nobody. The backup corners are atrocious. Corner is a position I full expect us to be picking up cuts from other teams. Davis didn't have the greatest debut in pre season either. That spot is a legit worry.
Sky Diver Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Nobody. The backup corners are atrocious. Corner is a position I full expect us to be picking up cuts from other teams. Davis didn't have the greatest debut in pre season either. That spot is a legit worry. It looks like Wallace is winning a spot.
GunnerBill Posted August 13, 2018 Author Posted August 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sky Diver said: It looks like Wallace is winning a spot. Winning would be the wrong word. He may well end up on the 53.... but that isn't because of his good play - he was poor on Thursday - it is because of lack of alternatives. If he was poor Pitts was whatever 3 grades worse than poor is. I think what they might do with Wallace is put him on the 53 so teams fill up their practice squads then cut him a couple of days later to add a vet cut from elsewhere and hope that way they have less competition to bring him back for the PS.
Sky Diver Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Winning would be the wrong word. He may well end up on the 53.... but that isn't because of his good play - he was poor on Thursday - it is because of lack of alternatives. If he was poor Pitts was whatever 3 grades worse than poor is. I think what they might do with Wallace is put him on the 53 so teams fill up their practice squads then cut him a couple of days later to add a vet cut from elsewhere and hope that way they have less competition to bring him back for the PS. Yeah, he clearly outplayed Pitts. Taron Johnson had a horrible missed tackle on a DJ Moore reception. Wallace missed too, but not nearly as badly. Pretty ugly. Johnson look like he may have been quite a reach at 4. He was project at 6. We’ll see. Edited August 13, 2018 by Sky Diver
JohnC Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 7:28 PM, GunnerBill said: Core special teams. Not sure why so many think Adolphus Washington has such a chance. He was atrocious on the field last year. Don't look back---look forward. That's why Logan Thomas and Peterman are going to make the team. Please don't bang your head. You don't want to concuss yourself and place yourself on the shelf due to the head damage protocol. 1
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 I'm getting a kick out of all the prognosticators after 3 or 4 weeks of camp and one Pre Season game
GunnerBill Posted August 13, 2018 Author Posted August 13, 2018 46 minutes ago, JohnC said: Don't look back---look forward. That's why Logan Thomas and Peterman are going to make the team. Please don't bang your head. You don't want to concuss yourself and place yourself on the shelf due to the head damage protocol. I have at no stage doubted Peterman will make the team. Said that all post-season. Logan has been overtaken by Croom and Khari Lee offers something different as a blocking TE. I still don't think he makes it and even if he does, he shouldn't. I think Washington probably does.... but again because of others deficiencies rather than because he has done anything noteworthy.
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I have at no stage doubted Peterman will make the team. Said that all post-season. Logan has been overtaken by Croom and Khari Lee offers something different as a blocking TE. I still don't think he makes it and even if he does, he shouldn't. I think Washington probably does.... but again because of others deficiencies rather than because he has done anything noteworthy. ...interestingly, the current "surprise cut" floating out there today is O'Leary.....where is he in your plan and whose the choice, Nick or Logan?...just askin'.....
JohnC Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I have at no stage doubted Peterman will make the team. Said that all post-season. Logan has been overtaken by Croom and Khari Lee offers something different as a blocking TE. I still don't think he makes it and even if he does, he shouldn't. I think Washington probably does.... but again because of others deficiencies rather than because he has done anything noteworthy. I see Nicklaus's grand kid more in jeopardy of not making the roster than Logan. 1
SoCal Deek Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, JohnC said: I see Nicklaus's grand kid more in jeopardy of not making the roster than Logan. No way! Other than the obligatory shot of Niagara Falls and the Anchor Bar, without O’Leary there’s nothing for the national media to fill a three hour broadcast!
GunnerBill Posted August 13, 2018 Author Posted August 13, 2018 49 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...interestingly, the current "surprise cut" floating out there today is O'Leary.....where is he in your plan and whose the choice, Nick or Logan?...just askin'..... I would take Nick but there is a chance neither of them makes it. 48 minutes ago, JohnC said: I see Nicklaus's grand kid more in jeopardy of not making the roster than Logan. I have moved O'Leary from lock to essentially the bubble. I am not sure they are competing against the same guys. I think it is one of Croom or Logan and one of Lee or O'Leary. Very possible neither make it. 1
BillsGuru4 Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 I thought Cam Phillips has consistently been studly
JohnC Posted August 13, 2018 Posted August 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I would take Nick but there is a chance neither of them makes it. I have moved O'Leary from lock to essentially the bubble. I am not sure they are competing against the same guys. I think it is one of Croom or Logan and one of Lee or O'Leary. Very possible neither make it. The roster surprise for me entering training camp was I thought that Conor McDermott would solidify his position and compete for the RT spot or become the swing tackle. He may be in jeopardy. Very often it isn't what you show but what your competitors show. Security isn't the nature of the job.
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