Hapless Bills Fan Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 I don't disagree with your RB room, but it makes me sad. Age 30, Age 30, Age 29 (with stone hands), and age 29, is not exactly a room built to look towards the future. Even the guys in red - Taiwan Jones (29), Marcus Murphy (27) aren't exactly a "youth movement" I would like to have one or two young prospects who just MIGHT be a sleeper to look at. I guess that translates to "unexcited by 5'11" Keith Ford as That Guy. On WR, I'm curious why you see Andre Holmes with his 13 receptions for 120 yds as a lock? We expended a bunch of draft capital on WR this year, even if it was late rounds. That's kind of surprising if we don't intend to give any of them a shot.
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't disagree with your RB room, but it makes me sad. Age 30, Age 30, Age 29 (with stone hands), and age 29, is not exactly a room built to look towards the future. Even the guys in red - Taiwan Jones (29), Marcus Murphy (27) aren't exactly a "youth movement" I would like to have one or two young prospects who just MIGHT be a sleeper to look at. I guess that translates to "unexcited by 5'11" Keith Ford as That Guy. On WR, I'm curious why you see Andre Holmes with his 13 receptions for 120 yds as a lock? We expended a bunch of draft capital on WR this year, even if it was late rounds. That's kind of surprising if we don't intend to give any of them a shot. I think it’s telling that the Bills tried to trade back up for Christian Kirk. That tells me that they understand how bad that group was. Outside of KB I wouldn’t say any holdover is a lock. 1
WMDman Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) Quarterback Josh Allen AJ McCarron Nathan Peterman Running Back LeSean McCoy Chris Ivory Patrick DiMarco (FB) Travaris Cadet Taiwan Jones Marcus Murphy Keith Ford Tight End Charles Clay Nick O'Leary Logan Thomas Jason Croom Khari Lee Keith Towbridge Wide Receivers Kelvin Benjamin Jeremy Kerley Zay Jones Andre Holmes Rod Streater Ray-Ray McCloud Austin Proehl Kaelin Clay Malachi Dupre Brandon Reilly Cam Phillips Robert Foster Offensive Line Dion Dawkins Ryan Groy Jordan Mills Russell Bodine Wyatt Teller Vlad Ducasse John Miller Marshall Newhouse Conor McDermott Adam Redmond De'Ondre Wesley Ike Boettger Defensive Line Kyle Williams Harrison Phillips Star Lotulelei Trent Murphy Jerry Hughes Shaq Lawson Adolphus Washington Eddie Yarbrough Owa Odighizuwa Terrence Fede Marquavius Lewis Tenny Palepoi Linebacker Tremaine Edmunds Matt Milano Ramon Humber Lorenzo Alexander Julian Stanford Deon Lacey Tanner Vallejo Mat Boesen Corey Thompson Cornerback Tre'Davious White Vontae Davis Taron Johnson Phillip Gaines Levi Wallace Lafayette Pitts Breon Borders Safety Jordan Poyer Micah Hyde Rafael Bush Siran Neal LJ McCray Kelcie McCray Dean Marlowe Special Teams Stephen Hauschka Colton Schmidt Reid Ferguson Cory Carter Tyler Davis Edited July 23, 2018 by WMDman 1
DallasMac Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I think it’s telling that the Bills tried to trade back up for Christian Kirk. That tells me that they understand how bad that group was. Outside of KB I wouldn’t say any holdover is a lock. If this is true I'm glad it didn't work out. I don't think Kirk will be anything more than a decent possession receiver.
GunnerBill Posted July 23, 2018 Author Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: On WR, I'm curious why you see Andre Holmes with his 13 receptions for 120 yds as a lock? Core special teams. Not sure why so many think Adolphus Washington has such a chance. He was atrocious on the field last year.
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, DallasMac said: If this is true I'm glad it didn't work out. I don't think Kirk will be anything more than a decent possession receiver. Yeah, they tried to get back into the 2nd when he was there. 1
Chandler#81 Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Probably very close. Are the McCray safeties brothers?
3rdand12 Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Core special teams. Not sure why so many think Adolphus Washington has such a chance. He was atrocious on the field last year. yep and yes about Holmes. but i might hope they can improve on that if does not show well at WR or has health issues Edited July 24, 2018 by 3rdand12
Captain Murica Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 Maybe I’m mistaken but wasn’t Miller taking all the first team reps at the end of mini camp? I think Miller is a starter this year and has a nice bounce back year. He’s been training hard all off season.
Green Lightning Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 6 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: My comments are specific to the defensive line. Agree that Hughes should be written in black, I don't see him not making the roster. I think Eddie Yarbrough should be written in blue as he has been a solid niche player. Overall, this list looks solid. Absolutely accurate.
TigerJ Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I don't disagree with your RB room, but it makes me sad. Age 30, Age 30, Age 29 (with stone hands), and age 29, is not exactly a room built to look towards the future. Even the guys in red - Taiwan Jones (29), Marcus Murphy (27) aren't exactly a "youth movement" I would like to have one or two young prospects who just MIGHT be a sleeper to look at. I guess that translates to "unexcited by 5'11" Keith Ford as That Guy. On WR, I'm curious why you see Andre Holmes with his 13 receptions for 120 yds as a lock? We expended a bunch of draft capital on WR this year, even if it was late rounds. That's kind of surprising if we don't intend to give any of them a shot. That running back room makes me more nervous than sad. I think in another year it could be re-stocked with some youth without too much difficulty, but I could see a stable of guys that old going down like flies with a run of bad luck.
Rocky Landing Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 What, no Gerhard De Beer? (Red, obviously), but makes me think that there should be asterisks for players we think will make the practice squad.
Gugny Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 7 hours ago, GunnerBill said: So training camp is finally, finally just about here. I am already eagerly awaiting the first instalment of Astro's Notes. As longer tenured members of the board will know I like to take a slightly different approach to predicting the roster than just naming the 53. I like at this point to go through what we have and brigade them into one of three categories: Running Back LeSean McCoy Chris Ivory Patrick DiMarco (FB) Travaris Cadet Taiwan Jones Marcus Murphy Keith Ford Wide Receivers Kelvin Benjamin Jeremy Kerley Zay Jones Andre Holmes Rod Streater Ray-Ray McCloud Austin Proehl Kaelin Clay Malachi Dupre Brandon Reilly Cam Phillips Robert Foster I think Cadet and Zay Jones are in the black. Otherwise, I agree. Gunner, your analysis and assessment are among the best on the board. Please keep it coming. 1 1
Augie Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: I think Cadet and Zay Jones are in the black. Otherwise, I agree. Gunner, your analysis and assessment are among the best on the board. Please keep it coming. I certainly agree on Zay. He will get a chance to get it together. I’m praying it happens.
Gugny Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Augie said: I certainly agree on Zay. He will get a chance to get it together. I’m praying it happens. Dude, he fights for Jesus. How can he NOT make it?
Augie Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Dude, he fights for Jesus. How can he NOT make it? Jesus is really the Turk, and he failed to turn the other cheek? Just guessin’. 1
Logic Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 To those who are discussing the, um...advanced age of our running back room: I totally agree, HOWEVER... I 100% expect the Bills to draft a brand new starting running back in next year's draft. Unless Shady's name is cleared AND he has a great season, I think he's gone next offseason. Too much money to pay a 31 year old running back. So if the Bills can just hang on for one more season with this group...between the full slate of draft picks and the money they'll have at their disposal in FA, I anticipate a bevy of offensive reinforcements at HB, WR, and OL. 1
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2018 Author Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Sky Diver said: Are you suggesting we only keep 2 QB’s? I have one as a lock and two as probably to make the roster.... so no. I just think if either McCarron or Peterman really sucks in camp it isn't beyond the realm of possibility they are cut. Unlikely but not impossible. Edited July 24, 2018 by GunnerBill
ALF Posted July 24, 2018 Posted July 24, 2018 All 3 QBs are a lock this season. Peterman keeps impressing McD in practice and good attitude. McCarron has 4 years as a backup to learn the pro system. I have started to trust Beane and McD , win or lose I like this organization , will be patient.
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