Do you find the "Saints" name/logo offensive?

[FLFan]

Is the off-season over yet?

[Bangarang]

Get off my lawn!

[BringBackFergy]

Just now, MDFan said:

Is the off-season over yet?

Start of training camp more important than offending those who disagree with such symbolism? And before you say “Relax”, I don’t care about Indians or cowboys, but this Saints thing really rubs me the wrong way. Needs to change. 

[Augie]

5 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Yeah. Weapon. Ever watch “Wizard of Oz”?

 

They’d win more games with those freaky flying monkeys as mascots! 

[JoPar_v2]

9 minutes ago, Captain Murica said:

Interesting, I wonder why they did that? 

Fleur-de-lis probably can’t be trademarked. It’s ancient.

[DC Tom]

The Fleur de Lis was used in Louisiana, and New Orleans in particular, to brand slaves and blacks accused of criminal conduct (such as "insufficient obedience to whites") well in to the 1890s.

 

It's a far more oppressive symbol than the Confederate flag.  No one was ever physically mutilated with that.

 

(No, I'm not making any of that up.)

[rodneykm]

2 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

Start of training camp more important than offending those who disagree with such symbolism? And before you say “Relax”, I don’t care about Indians or cowboys, but this Saints thing really rubs me the wrong way. Needs to change. 

 

You're pathetic.

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

The Fleur de Lis was used in Louisiana, and New Orleans in particular, to brand slaves and blacks accused of criminal conduct (such as "insufficient obedience to whites") well in to the 1890s.

 

It's a far more oppressive symbol than the Confederate flag.  No one was ever physically mutilated with that.

 

(No, I'm not making any of that up.)

 

Quite the juxtaposition with the name “Saints”. 

[BringBackFergy]

5 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

The Fleur de Lis was used in Louisiana, and New Orleans in particular, to brand slaves and blacks accused of criminal conduct (such as "insufficient obedience to whites") well in to the 1890s.

 

It's a far more oppressive symbol than the Confederate flag.  No one was ever physically mutilated with that.

 

(No, I'm not making any of that up.)

I should have added response #5. Thx. Equally offensive

5 minutes ago, rodneykm said:

 

You're pathetic.

Your contributions to this board are well reasoned and german to the issue at hand. 

[DC Tom]

Just now, Augie said:

 

Quite the juxtaposition with the name “Saints”. 

 

Not really.  Christian missionary zeal was a significant component of Western slavery, just as Islamic "evangelicalism" was in Eastern, Middle Eastern, and Mediterranean slavery.

 

But c'mon...a black player signs with New Orleans, and they're required to wear a symbol used to brand slaves?  We're complaining about the "Washington Redskins," but not this?  

[mead107]

I don’t like some football team named after me. 

I AM THE ONLY SAINT 

 

CHANGE THE NAME TO WHO DAT 

[BringBackFergy]

3 hours ago, DC Tom said:

 

Not really.  Christian missionary zeal was a significant component of Western slavery, just as Islamic "evangelicalism" was in Eastern, Middle Eastern, and Mediterranean slavery.

 

But c'mon...a black player signs with New Orleans, and they're required to wear a symbol used to brand slaves?  We're complaining about the "Washington Redskins," but not this?  

Again. Well said. 

3 hours ago, rodneykm said:

 

 

 I appreciate your profound commentary. 

[Augie]

1 minute ago, DC Tom said:

 

Not really.  Christian missionary zeal was a significant component of Western slavery, just as Islamic "evangelicalism" was in Eastern, Middle Eastern, and Mediterranean slavery.

 

But c'mon...a black player signs with New Orleans, and they're required to wear a symbol used to brand slaves?  We're complaining about the "Washington Redskins," but not this?  

 

Obviously, I’m talking in today’s local context. However, I might go in half- sies with you if you want to blackmail that Saints with this potential faux pas. It could be a bonanza! 

[Doc Brown]

Last time a team in New Orleans changed their name they chose the Pelicans so I'd be careful in getting rid of the name.  I don't want to play the New Orleans Flamingoes. 

[mead107]

Saint Mead. Sounds awesome to me. ??

[DC Tom]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

Obviously, I’m talking in today’s local context.

 

You're not allowed to do that these days.  Language and symbols can only evolve to become more offensive, not less.  If a statue of Stonewall Jackson must stand for racism and abuse for all eternity, so must the fleur de lis.

[mead107]

Buffalo / slaughterhouse 

killing of Buffaloes. ??????????

Patriots/ killers ?????

Vikings / more killers

[BringBackFergy]

5 minutes ago, rodneykm said:

 

You've teetered over the line of being the most pathetic poster I've ever seen on a message board. 

Can you use a word other than pathetic? Call me lame, goofy, asinine, dopey....but pathetic has been used three times now. Go to www.thesaurus.com

 

 

 

[Mark Vader]

I had my leg nearly bitten off by a Saint Bernard.....so YES, it is an offensive name.

[mead107]

Chargers/ crap car. ?