A Canadian Who Smuggly Thinks He's Superior

[ExiledInIllinois]

Maybe they got a puppy instead:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/20/thousands-of-canadian-mothers-were-forced-to-give-up-their-babies-some-were-told-to-get-a-puppy-instead/?utm_term=.35b83e576fd1

Edited July 23, 2018 by ExiledInIllinois

[3rdnlng]

6 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

It's funny that this thread title denoted me as someone who smugly thanks I'm better than Americans when you just talked about American exceptionalism. What in Gods name is that? Sounds like a situation in which that person thinks that Americans are actually the best and superior to others.Sounds like a situation in which that person thinks that Americans are actually the best and superior to others.

 

You've not heard of the term American Exceptionalism before? It's why we are the greatest country to ever inhabit this earth. Listen to your own Gordon Sinclair video that I posted above. You smugly thought that you knew more about us and our laws than we do. Do I think that I am personally better than everyone else? Of course not, but I do think America collectively is a better country than all the others.

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[leh-nerd skin-erd]

8 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

Maybe they got a puppy instead:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/20/thousands-of-canadian-mothers-were-forced-to-give-up-their-babies-some-were-told-to-get-a-puppy-instead/?utm_term=.35b83e576fd1

If you substitute US for Canada in this article, 59-99% of the world would be outraged. 

[DC Tom]

1 hour ago, MiltonWaddams said:

 I do want to state unequivocally that I never said Canada is better than the United States. What I did say, and this is fact, is that the world is right now judging America based on Donald Trump's politics. If your political views align with his, good for you and enjoy living in that world. However, I am neither a socialist Nor a communist. I just do not believe that the elitism that is being pushed by Donald Trump is Acceptable in the least.

 

The elitism being pushed by Trump is governing via the letter of the law.  

 

The main issue is that no one understands anymore that that's how things are supposed to be done.  The anti-Trumpers are pushing - successfully - the belief that bad laws shouldn't be changed, but ignored, and thus it's the President's responsibility to ignore them, rather than Congress' responsibility to craft decent laws.

 

The irony - in the Canadian sense - being that that is more fascist than anything else in American politics right now.

[Iron Maiden]

I love Canada...Neil Young....Rush.....Hockey...Pamela Anderson ( when she was young..lol ).....Captain Kirk.....Martin Short....Jim Carey...Avril Lavigne...Ryan Reynolds....Dan Akroyd...John Candy ( RIP )....Howie Mandel....Mike Myers...Keifer Sutherland.....Bryan Adams....Shania Twain.....Drake.....Leslie Nielson ( RIP )....Alanis Morissette....etc....lots of star power from a relatively small population...ironically, Canada is the largest country in the world besides Russia....

 

Vancouver is one of the most beautiful city in the world...and Montreal....let's just say if you want to party...there's not many city in the world that offer more options than Montreal..

Edited July 23, 2018 by Iron Maiden

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

If you substitute US for Canada in this article, 59-99% of the world would be outraged. 

They did it in Ireland too... But the nuns buried the babies.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/28/world/europe/tuam-ireland-babies-children.html?src=trending

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

5 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

 It is in comprehensible how anyone in their right mind could follow such an absolute moron 

 

That hilarious considering Justin's track record of imbecility. 

[MiltonWaddams]

1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:

You've not heard of the term American Exceptionalism before? It's why we are the greatest country to ever inhabit this earth. Listen to your own Gordon Sinclair video that I posted above. You smugly thought that you knew more about us and our laws than we do. Do I think that I am personally better than everyone else? Of course not, but I do think America collectively is a better country than all the others.

I actually applaud that mindset in its basic sense. Patriotism is an absolutely beautiful part of the American mindset. As a Canadian, I very much feel the same way about my country. 

I never assumed, nor did I insinuate, that I know more about American laws than you do. In fact, intelligent posters such as DC Tom have posed their replies in such a way as to educate me further on some of these laws and the ways in which they are being upheld and their effect on the American public. I applaud this as it a true form of debate. In your retorts, you have done nothing to educate me nor to offer an intelligent point that msy sway me, or a like-minded individual, to your side. Who's smug now?

21 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

That hilarious considering Justin's track record of imbecility. 

Point taken. JT has had his failures and is doing his party no favours when it comes to the next election. However, Justin has not negatively impacted the perception of his country on the world stage and has been known by his counterparts across the globe as an intelligent, thoughtful and strong leader. By counterparts I do not mean dictators,  who are the only world leaders to say such things about Trump. I'd take JT over Donald any and every day.

[Rob's House]

1 hour ago, DC Tom said:

 

The elitism being pushed by Trump is governing via the letter of the law.  

 

The main issue is that no one understands anymore that that's how things are supposed to be done.  The anti-Trumpers are pushing - successfully - the belief that bad laws shouldn't be changed, but ignored, and thus it's the President's responsibility to ignore them, rather than Congress' responsibility to craft decent laws.

 

The irony - in the Canadian sense - being that that is more fascist than anything else in American politics right now.

The other irony is that the same people who are convinced Trump is a dictator in the making have effectively pushed for the President to act as a monarch without significant constitutional or congressional constraints for 16 of the last 24 years.

[Rob's House]

6 hours ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Thankful for being credited and to your quotes. If you are too blind to see the way that the world currently views US politics, then I don't know what to tell you. This is  not my isolated opinion. This is one that I share with many many people all around the world. This is not a slight against the 59% of the country that does not support your president. This is an absolute slight against those that do. It is in comprehensible how anyone in their right mind could follow such an absolute moron 

This is the same "world" that applauded Castro and Hugo Chavez as they turned prosperous nations into impoverished ones. This is the same "world" that lacks the freedom we take for granted - emasculated populations that approve of their governments regulating and criminalizing speech.

 

This is a world that takes for granted its ability to live in peace; one that exists because the U.S. makes it possible. It's also the hypocritical world that protects its borders while demonizing us for defending ours.

 

If I take you at your word, the rest of the world is comprised of easily led socialists who lack any perspective of global politics or understanding of macroeconomics. Look at the results. Socialism always ends badly. If you keep doing the same thing expecting a different result, you might be insane.

Edited July 23, 2018 by Rob's House

[GG]

America and its gun laws?

[MiltonWaddams]

32 minutes ago, GG said:

America and its gun laws?

Second amendment rights over the lives of children? I know that a lot of Americans are single-minded when it comes to their right to bear arms. It has to be the single most frustrating thing to watch from the perspective of an outsider. The biggest problem that I have with it is that it is a "right ". Owning something that is designed with the sole purpose of killing another human is so far from a right. It is a privilege. Allowing it to be a right has allowed true pieces of garbage and people who have no business owning a weapon to, as of the end of June, commit 154 multiple person homicides in the US since January 1st. Why the hell would you not see the examples set by other countries, such as Australia who previously held similar beliefs and gun laws, who have set structer gun control laws with immense success? I have  had multiple people try and explain it to me and I cannot for a second adjust my thoughts on the subject.

49 minutes ago, Rob's House said:

This is the same "world" that applauded Castro and Hugo Chavez as they turned prosperous nations into impoverished ones. This is the same "world" that lacks the freedom we take for granted - emasculated populations that approve of their governments regulating and criminalizing speech.

 

This is a world that takes for granted its ability to live in peace; one that exists because the U.S. makes it possible. It's also the hypocritical world that protects its borders while demonizing us for defending ours.

 

If I take you at your word, the rest of the world is comprised of easily led socialists who lack any perspective of global politics or understanding of macroeconomics. Look at the results. Socialism always ends badly. If you keep doing the same thing expecting a different result, you might be insane.

Chavez and Castro were not lauded worldwide and I never saw them as heroes. 

You are correct in that much of this world owes the US a debt of gratitude for its role in peace keeping. However, if you read what I have been stating, my focus has been greatly on the current regime, one that is very much trying to move away from the peace keeping role and has not denied its intent to run the country like a business. Also, as I assume you are literate as you respond to an online forum, you should have read that I have applauded much of what your country stands for on a historical basis but am disgusted by its current division that is only enforced by the twitter-troll commander-in-chief.

[3rdnlng]

1 hour ago, MiltonWaddams said:

I actually applaud that mindset in its basic sense. Patriotism is an absolutely beautiful part of the American mindset. As a Canadian, I very much feel the same way about my country. 

I never assumed, nor did I insinuate, that I know more about American laws than you do. In fact, intelligent posters such as DC Tom have posed their replies in such a way as to educate me further on some of these laws and the ways in which they are being upheld and their effect on the American public. I applaud this as it a true form of debate. In your retorts, you have done nothing to educate me nor to offer an intelligent point that msy sway me, or a like-minded individual, to your side. Who's smug now?

Point taken. JT has had his failures and is doing his party no favours when it comes to the next election. However, Justin has not negatively impacted the perception of his country on the world stage and has been known by his counterparts across the globe as an intelligent, thoughtful and strong leader. By counterparts I do not mean dictators,  who are the only world leaders to say such things about Trump. I'd take JT over Donald any and every day.

What I did is to get you away from making disingenuous political slams at the U.S. on TSW where you knew you couldn't really be challenged. You're down here now, let's see how you fare. I'm more than willing to debate and to teach you. I suspect teaching you will be a challenge though, since your mind seems to be pretty full of preconceived ideas.

 

First things first though. You say that your leader, JT appears by way of perception to be a strong leader. That's nice if perception is your goal. Our leader's perception by the weak and unknowing isn't very good. By the people in the know, he's acting according to our Constitution and reversing the monarchy policies of the last couple of decades. In addition he is taking on both foes and allies to create a fairer playing field. Our economy is going great, our defense (or your defense) is doing well and there is a new hope in America.

 

You are here now, but the question will be for how long? Let's have at it.

[Rob's House]

12 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Second amendment rights over the lives of children? I know that a lot of Americans are single-minded when it comes to their right to bear arms. It has to be the single most frustrating thing to watch from the perspective of an outsider. The biggest problem that I have with it is that it is a "right ". Owning something that is designed with the sole purpose of killing another human is so far from a right. It is a privilege. Allowing it to be a right has allowed true pieces of garbage and people who have no business owning a weapon to, as of the end of June, commit 154 multiple person homicides in the US since January 1st. Why the hell would you not see the examples set by other countries, such as Australia who previously held similar beliefs and gun laws, who have set structer gun control laws with immense success? I have  had multiple people try and explain it to me and I cannot for a second adjust my thoughts on the subject.

Chavez and Castro were not lauded worldwide and I never saw them as heroes. 

You are correct in that much of this world owes the US a debt of gratitude for its role in peace keeping. However, if you read what I have been stating, my focus has been greatly on the current regime, one that is very much trying to move away from the peace keeping role and has not denied its intent to run the country like a business. Also, as I assume you are literate as you respond to an online forum, you should have read that I have applauded much of what your country stands for on a historical basis but am disgusted by its current division that is only enforced by the twitter-troll commander-in-chief.

No offense, but I didn't see much substance in your criticisms of Trump, but that's not exclusive to you. The only people I see making substantive gripes on him are people on the right. The left might as well call him a meanie and a penis head for all they do. 

 

The most specific thing I recall you saying was that his policies favor the elites. That's just an empty talking point. Where's the evidence of this? The idea that capitalists favor the elites while socialists favor the poor is just left-wing propaganda. If anything the opposite is true.

 

It's telling that you were quite fond of Obama, whose presidency was great for the elites, but quite rough on poor people and minorities. Yet you deride Trump who has brought great economic gains to those groups. And you find Trump's border policy awful, but were fine with Obama's very similar policies. It makes me doubt your objectivity and sincerity.

[3rdnlng]

31 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Second amendment rights over the lives of children? I know that a lot of Americans are single-minded when it comes to their right to bear arms. It has to be the single most frustrating thing to watch from the perspective of an outsider. The biggest problem that I have with it is that it is a "right ". Owning something that is designed with the sole purpose of killing another human is so far from a right. It is a privilege. Allowing it to be a right has allowed true pieces of garbage and people who have no business owning a weapon to, as of the end of June, commit 154 multiple person homicides in the US since January 1st. Why the hell would you not see the examples set by other countries, such as Australia who previously held similar beliefs and gun laws, who have set structer gun control laws with immense success? I have  had multiple people try and explain it to me and I cannot for a second adjust my thoughts on the subject.

Chavez and Castro were not lauded worldwide and I never saw them as heroes. 

You are correct in that much of this world owes the US a debt of gratitude for its role in peace keeping. However, if you read what I have been stating, my focus has been greatly on the current regime, one that is very much trying to move away from the peace keeping role and has not denied its intent to run the country like a business. Also, as I assume you are literate as you respond to an online forum, you should have read that I have applauded much of what your country stands for on a historical basis but am disgusted by its current division that is only enforced by the twitter-troll commander-in-chief.

Now that is very telling. We want it run that way. How would you suggest we run it? A daycare center? You see, we want adults in charge, not your favorite nanny.

[MiltonWaddams]

22 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

What I did is to get you away from making disingenuous political slams at the U.S. on TSW where you knew you couldn't really be challenged. You're down here now, let's see how you fare. I'm more than willing to debate and to teach you. I suspect teaching you will be a challenge though, since your mind seems to be pretty full of preconceived ideas.

 

First things first though. You say that your leader, JT appears by way of perception to be a strong leader. That's nice if perception is your goal. Our leader's perception by the weak and unknowing isn't very good. By the people in the know, he's acting according to our Constitution and reversing the monarchy policies of the last couple of decades. In addition he is taking on both foes and allies to create a fairer playing field. Our economy is going great, our defense (or your defense) is doing well and there is a new hope in America.

 

You are here now, but the question will be for how long? Let's have at it.

Your president has been proven time and time again to be a blatant liar and changes "fact" to suit his agenda. 

What is this "new hope " you speak of? I have a legitimate question for you. Are you a) a caucasian male who is worried that a hard-working non-US born individual may take your job, b) an extremely wealthy person , c) loyal to the Republican Party regardless of their direction or plan or d) pro life. These are the only people I see supporting or, in the case of option b and d, benefitting from the current regime. You say the economy is doing well, and you are correct from the standpoint of Wall Street. However, is the middle class growing or is the middle class, as we have long known it, shrinking and the wage of those below the top 2% actually shrinking relative to the rate of inflation? Does the average hard-working American have a better life today than they did in November 2016 or is it just the CEO and shareholders of their company. I may not intimately know your laws, but I do know proven statistics and facts.

 

12 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

Now that is very telling. We want it run that way. How would you suggest we run it? A daycare center? You see, we want adults in charge, not your favorite nanny.

Running a country like a business is idiotic. I own a business. My employees are very important to me, but I also am aware that they are only as important as their performance dictates when it comes to my bottom line. I can , and will both disipline and remove them as it suits my business. They become statistics when it really comes down to it. If you like being a statistic, you are certainly in the minority. 

Edited July 23, 2018 by MiltonWaddams

[3rdnlng]

2 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Your president has been proven time and time again to be a blatant liar and changes "fact" to suit his agenda. 

What is this "new hope " you speak of? I have a legitimate question for you. Are you a) a caucasian male who is worried that a hard-working non-US born individual may take your job, b) an extremely wealthy person , c) loyal to the Republican Party regardless of their direction or plan or d) pro life. These are the only three people I see supporting or, in the case of option b and d, benefitting from the current regime. You say the economy is doing well, and you are correct from the standpoint of Wall Street. However, is the middle class growing or is the middle class, as we have long known it, shrinking and the wage of those below the top 2% actually shrinking relative to the rate of inflation? Does the average hard-working American have a better life today than they did in November 2016 or is it just the CEO and shareholders of their company. I may not intimately know your laws, but I do know proven statistics and facts.

 

What a crockofshit. You keep claiming that you have the facts behind you but you really don't have any facts. Have you considered the "Walkaway" votes or the great deal of blacks who are converting to Trump? You are ill prepared to debate American politics and should probably just fade away. if you don't want to that's ok, we've worn out our last whack-a-mole and need a new one.

[Doc Brown]

3 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Your president has been proven time and time again to be a blatant liar and changes "fact" to suit his agenda. 

What is this "new hope " you speak of? I have a legitimate question for you. Are you a) a caucasian male who is worried that a hard-working non-US born individual may take your job, b) an extremely wealthy person , c) loyal to the Republican Party regardless of their direction or plan or d) pro life. These are the only three people I see supporting or, in the case of option b and d, benefitting from the current regime. You say the economy is doing well, and you are correct from the standpoint of Wall Street. However, is the middle class growing or is the middle class, as we have long known it, shrinking and the wage of those below the top 2% actually shrinking relative to the rate of inflation? Does the average hard-working American have a better life today than they did in November 2016 or is it just the CEO and shareholders of their company. I may not intimately know your laws, but I do know proven statistics and facts.

 

The better question is examining what happened to this country to create an environment where a blowhard like Trump was elected as our president.  What do you think they are because I'm curious?

[Dante]

2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

The better question is examining what happened to this country to create an environment where a blowhard like Trump was elected as our president.  What do you think they are because I'm curious?

 

A run of very, very bad presidents.