Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 48 minutes ago, Gordio said: Just out of curiosity why do you think the city is boring? We have way more stuff than most cities have imo. Great food, great bar districts, Casinos, one of the wonders of the world in NF, world class strip clubs, beautiful parks for hiking and such as Letchworth Park, excellent fresh water fishing, a beautiful freshwater Lake that is second to none for water activities, maid of the mist, jet boat tours, a beautiful museum. Sorry we don't have a drive thru Daiquiri Stand like the sh*thole you live in. A lot of cities have that if you are with the right people. Detroit has everything that you listed except NF (which no one in Buffalo ever goes to). I spent the overwhelming majority of my life in Buffalo and my family is still there. I am there all of the time. Objectively viewing though as an outsider it is near the bottom of the list. The weather is nice 3 months of the year. It’s a great place to raise a family but doesn’t offer anything that the overwhelming majority of NFL cities don’t have. I have a great time in Buffalo but I know where to go and what to do. If I were from any other city that would hold true. My sister has been in Cleveland for 20 years and that place has a lot going on compared to Buffalo. They have word class chefs (Michael Symon, Zach Burrell, Jonathan Sawyer), a bunch of breweries, 3 pro sports teams, casino, flourishing lakefront, vibrant theater district, museums, concert venues on the water, a nice zoo, etc... You can literally find a great time in any city if you know what you are doing. People always get insecure when this topic arises. Being objective though, Buffalo is way down on the list.
PaattMaann Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: A lot of cities have that if you are with the right people. Detroit has everything that you listed except NF (which no one in Buffalo ever goes to). I spent the overwhelming majority of my life in Buffalo and my family is still there. I am there all of the time. Objectively viewing though as an outsider it is near the bottom of the list. The weather is nice 3 months of the year. It’s a great place to raise a family but doesn’t offer anything that the overwhelming majority of NFL cities don’t have. I have a great time in Buffalo but I know where to go and what to do. If I were from any other city that would hold true. My sister has been in Cleveland for 20 years and that place has a lot going on compared to Buffalo. They have word class chefs (Michael Symon, Zach Burrell, Jonathan Sawyer), a bunch of breweries, 3 pro sports teams, casino, flourishing lakefront, vibrant theater district, museums, concert venues on the water, a nice zoo, etc... You can literally find a great time in any city if you know what you are doing. People always get insecure when this topic arises. Being objective though, Buffalo is way down on the list. June, July, August, September and October. That's 5 months bro : ) Don't cheat us out of those 2 swing months.
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: June, July, August, September and October. That's 5 months bro : ) Don't cheat us out of those 2 swing months. Ha ha, did you forget about October Surprise?!? We didn’t have power for like 10 days!! I’ll give you September (and you can combine late May and early October). The early part of the football season is great weather. It is almost the opposite here. June, July and August are oppressive. This last week has been especially hot. The heat index over the weekend was 114!! You either stay in the pool or in the AC. You really any do anything else.
PaattMaann Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Ha ha, did you forget about October Surprise?!? We didn’t have power for like 10 days!! I’ll give you September (and you can combine late May and early October). The early part of the football season is great weather. It is almost the opposite here. June, July and August are oppressive. This last week has been especially hot. The heat index over the weekend was 114!! You either stay in the pool or in the AC. You really any do anything else. I haven't forgotten about the October surprise BUT you cant lump an otherwise usually beautiful time of year in Buffalo because of one freak snow storm (regardless of how much those two weeks without power sucked haha). October is the perfect fall, football, light jacket weather! You are right, thats too hot...I LOVE the heat, but I love the heat when I am by the ocean.
TheElectricCompany Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) I would rate Santa Clara & Oakland pretty low. It's too bad the 49ers left San Francisco. Even though it's full of hipsters, yuppies and trust fund techies, it's still a gorgeous city with so much history and things to do. Santa Clara is a giant strip mall. Some of the best food I've ever had, but would I go to watch football there? No way. Oakland is a expensive dump (no joke!). Buffalo wouldn't be the worst, but it would be pretty far down on the list. Sorry. Best places? Seattle, Los Angeles, Miami, Nashville and Denver Edited July 23, 2018 by TheElectricCompany
PromoTheRobot Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 56 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: A lot of cities have that if you are with the right people. Detroit has everything that you listed except NF (which no one in Buffalo ever goes to). I spent the overwhelming majority of my life in Buffalo and my family is still there. I am there all of the time. Objectively viewing though as an outsider it is near the bottom of the list. The weather is nice 3 months of the year. It’s a great place to raise a family but doesn’t offer anything that the overwhelming majority of NFL cities don’t have. I have a great time in Buffalo but I know where to go and what to do. If I were from any other city that would hold true. My sister has been in Cleveland for 20 years and that place has a lot going on compared to Buffalo. They have word class chefs (Michael Symon, Zach Burrell, Jonathan Sawyer), a bunch of breweries, 3 pro sports teams, casino, flourishing lakefront, vibrant theater district, museums, concert venues on the water, a nice zoo, etc... You can literally find a great time in any city if you know what you are doing. People always get insecure when this topic arises. Being objective though, Buffalo is way down on the list. And think about how much has improved since the Pegulas arrived? There would be nothing at the foot of Main. No Canalside. No Harborcenter. Maybe the casino and naval park. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: And think about how much has improved since the Pegulas arrived? There would be nothing at the foot of Main. No Canalside. No Harborcenter. Maybe the casino and naval park. No doubt, the Pegula have done wonders for WNY. A lot of other people invested downtown before it was “cool.” Croce, Termini, Sinatra, etc... have done a ton for Buffalo by investing early.
PaattMaann Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: ..Sounds to me, that the people criticizing Buffalo, have never been... I live in Buffalo. I criticize it plenty, but mostly for the horrendous weather for half of the year. I realize there is nothing I or the city can do about that though (I can't move, job with pension and wifes company are here), so I don't trash it too much. The weather sucks balls. The people are great. The food is great. There is entertainment (I have seen 6 concerts in the past 16 days and will see another tomorrow night). You just gotta poke around. 1
TheElectricCompany Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 14 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: ..Sounds to me, that the people criticizing Buffalo, have never been... Maybe. Or they've ventured outside the WNY bubble and seen something better.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 Orchard park, new era- great place to watch a Bills game... one of the better game day experiences around due to tailgating situation and very cheap tix and concessions... good food As far as NFL cities and non NFL fun. Cinci, Cleveland, Buffalo, Jax to me are meh. Charlotte was sort of a snoozer and San Diego is a quiet place also. Don’t get me wrong, in high school and a few college summers b-lo was just fine...
Gordio Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Ha ha, did you forget about October Surprise?!? We didn’t have power for like 10 days!! I’ll give you September (and you can combine late May and early October). The early part of the football season is great weather. It is almost the opposite here. June, July and August are oppressive. This last week has been especially hot. The heat index over the weekend was 114!! You either stay in the pool or in the AC. You really any do anything else. Over exaggeration that we only have 3 months of nice weather. May, June & so far July have been beautiful. August is also a beautiful month, as well as September & usually October(although we do get the unusual storm from time to time.) You mention October Surprise, which did suck, but I was golfing two weeks later. I would much rather have that then what your city had to deal with in Katrina. November & December get a bad rap around here. For the most part they are not bad. Yes we get pounded with a Lake effect snow storm that time of year but there are a lot of times I am still golfing in December & plus you have the holidays which makes the weather more bearable. The 4 months that usually suck around here are Jan - April. April is the most aggravating month for me personally. The weather should be nice by then but often times it stillin the 40's/low 50s. It seems once out of every 4-5 years we have a nice March/April. Talk about crazy, this year I believe April was the coldest April on record & this May was the warmest May on record. Talk about flipping the switch.
CountDorkula Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 33 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: ..Sounds to me, that the people criticizing Buffalo, have never been... lol what? Many of us live/lived in Buffalo. If its one thing people from Buffalo care about the most its their city being ranked high, which sadly because of corrupt politicians and a general lack of waterfront development its not. I love Buffalo, I will move back eventually because my family and friends are there, but lets not pretend its something its not. Buffalo has a long way to go and need more than just Pegula to invest downtown. 22 minutes ago, TheElectricCompany said: Maybe. Or they've ventured outside the WNY bubble and seen something better. If my family and friends weren't still in Buffalo, I would never look back. Pegula needs some help to transform that waterfront, and i'm not talking NFL stadium.
Bill from NYC Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, PaattMaann said: I live in Buffalo. I criticize it plenty, but mostly for the horrendous weather for half of the year. I realize there is nothing I or the city can do about that though (I can't move, job with pension and wifes company are here), so I don't trash it too much. The weather sucks balls. The people are great. The food is great. There is entertainment (I have seen 6 concerts in the past 16 days and will see another tomorrow night). You just gotta poke around. Nice touch!!! 1
TheElectricCompany Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: If my family and friends weren't still in Buffalo, I would never look back. Pegula needs some help to transform that waterfront, and i'm not talking NFL stadium. I turned the page on Buffalo & Rochester 7 years ago. While trips to WNY are heavy in nostalgia (Barbill beef on weck!), after about a week, I remember why I left that place. Canalside and Harbor Center are nice, but come on now, I know WNYers are not simpletons. We are talking about a blip on the radar. Is that all it takes for a city to "turn around"? Get out of here. Edited July 23, 2018 by TheElectricCompany
Rico Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Baltimore (imo) is pretty horrible as well I dare say. I was down there for a concert near the Harbor. When the concert ended it was an adventure. I live in North Baltimore County, and sad to say I tend to stay away from the city if I can help it. Canton/Fells Point is about the only places I will hit.
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 5:50 PM, H2o said: Philly or NY for a any Eagles or Jets matchup. By most accounts I've heard their fans are complete holes. Boring, NY is a lot of things but boring aint one of them.
87168 Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Rico said: I live in North Baltimore County, and sad to say I tend to stay away from the city if I can help it. Canton/Fells Point is about the only places I will hit. Baltimore is a beautiful city with a lot to offer. I'm happy to hear the less appreciative steer clear. makes my trips more enjoyable, and reminds me why I'll always live in a city. flight from fright. it's the same mindset I encountered back in Buffalo... kind of a sad way to live.
Rico Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 16 minutes ago, 87168 said: Baltimore is a beautiful city with a lot to offer. I'm happy to hear the less appreciative steer clear. makes my trips more enjoyable, and reminds me why I'll always live in a city. flight from fright. it's the same mindset I encountered back in Buffalo... kind of a sad way to live. I blame Freddie Gray.
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 3 hours ago, CountDorkula said: lol what? Many of us live/lived in Buffalo. If its one thing people from Buffalo care about the most its their city being ranked high, which sadly because of corrupt politicians and a general lack of waterfront development its not. I love Buffalo, I will move back eventually because my family and friends are there, but lets not pretend its something its not. Buffalo has a long way to go and need more than just Pegula to invest downtown. If my family and friends weren't still in Buffalo, I would never look back. Pegula needs some help to transform that waterfront, and i'm not talking NFL stadium. If there is one thing I’ve found to be almost universally true after living elsewhere for 24 years and after growing up there my first 18, it’s that most poeple that grew up and still live there think it’s the epicenter of the universe and the greatest city, with the best people and greatest restaurants and CoL on the planet. I grew up that way, was surrounded by it an even believed it until I lived up and down the east coast and abroad. From the outside it’s a nice small town feeling city with loads of challenges in economics, workforce, local government, weather, etc. Education is good, but not as great as you hear. I think folks should generally feel very fortunate there are pro sports teams there. I think it has a lot to do with the reputation of the city from the 50s when it was a top 20 city. Now the metro area is about 50th. And the city is 81 35 minutes ago, 87168 said: Baltimore is a beautiful city with a lot to offer. I'm happy to hear the less appreciative steer clear. makes my trips more enjoyable, and reminds me why I'll always live in a city. flight from fright. it's the same mindset I encountered back in Buffalo... kind of a sad way to live. Agreed- neat place and lots of fun
Mark Vader Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 3:49 PM, Lurker said: Oakland... It won't be for much longer.
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