dezertbill Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 20 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: Shady is evicting her legally. But he may also have items in the house that she's threatened to take or destroy. And so maybe he sent a guy to retrieve the items, not rough her up. But a confrontation ensued. I hope Shady's not involved in any way. But I'm not convinced. So here is my question for any legal aficionados out there. It's public knowledge that, when out of town, Shady has sent his people over to grab items from the home. Seeing this through cameras, she called police and this was stopped. No charges were filed against anyone, so I would have to assume that no laws were broken through their actions. Now, if the home is in Shady's name, and she is a "tenant", then they both share access. Also, if the home is in Shady's name, then he has authorization to allow someone access to the house with or without her knowledge (interpretation of Georgia law). Police reports say that the home was specifically targeted, and that the victim was asked for certain items. Based on this, there has to be some sense that this is an inside job. Yet, Shady hasn't been charged (or even hinted of being up for) any crimes. It's apparent from what is being filed in the courts, this woman feels entitled to this space and will not leave. She also feels entitled to personal possessions that Shady says are his, but she claims are hers and will not relinquish. So, here are my thoughts. Shady sends someone over to the home thinking she is in London (or perhaps she isn't home) looking to retrieve items in a home that is in his name. (Mind you, he may or may not have documentation via texts, VM, etc from her claiming she will destroy the items if he doesn't cooperate with her. It's a possibility.) She is there and confronts this individual. It's obvious through her fighting Shady in court, she isn't willing to relinquish these items easily. This individual then tells her he is going to take these items. She refuses to allow him to, and she initiates a physical confrontation with this person. This person is unwilling to sit idly by and allow her to physically attack him, so he responds with his own physical reaction. Obviously, with this person being stronger and larger than his girl, he causes more damage to her than she does to him. He then leaves, with or without the items. Now, due to the fact that this occurred in a home that Shady owns and there are legal proceedings currently in play, this isn't a slam dunk case for the police. There are a lot of pieces to try and fit together, specifically who has access to what, and who can allow people access to property that they own. My thoughts are, if there is an open court case regarding whether she has to relinquish belongings that Shady feels are his, then to send someone into the home and just "take" those items to me goes against court orders, and could possibly be deemed as theft...even though those items are in a home that Shady owns??? I sense that the police know a ton more than we do, and the semantics of this case make it difficult to just throw cuffs on someone. If this was her home, and someone broke in, then I truly believe that the police would be moving much faster. But because this home is owned by Shady, his rights are being weighed in on this. Also, could the police know who the assailant is, but are in a situation where A) He was authorized to enter the home by the home owner, so no law was broken there B). Is the possibility of her escalating the situation and causing first physical contact being taken into account???? Of course, the police are going to go off facts and not some social media post. If suspect was sent to the home to merely pick up belongings that Shady said were his, and he authorized him to be there, then I don't see that as a home invasion. I think as the days pass and more information comes out, we'll know just what the cops are thinking and whether or not this is an easier case to figure out than someone like myself who isn't a legal beagle.
KD in CA Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, corta765 said: If he told his buddies to go over and grab his stuff and they proceeded to beat her up then that is on them. If he told them to go there and hurt her then he is 100% at fault. 1st scenario would clear McCoy to the extent he didn't order a hit or anything and things got out of hand. NFL will suspend and its up to Bills if they keep him. The second he goes to prison. That's all I was saying and I agree any connection in anyway he is toast both NFL and potentially life wise. Except if that's what happened, it will take cops all of 30 seconds to get his buddies to cut a deal to say Shady paid them to beat her up, whether it's true or not.
Royale with Cheese Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: She knows everything? So she can tell us what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction? 3
klos63 Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: She knows everything? So she can tell us what was in the suitcase in Pulp Fiction? Is that what I think it is?
CuddyDark Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, TheTruthHurts said: They won't be able to prove anything even if he was involved. This is why they created conspiracy. Criminal conspiracy would be charged as if he hit her himself.
Saxum Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, Heitz said: No one is BLAMING the victim, people are just saying we don't know the facts as they relate to Shady's involvment. But no, Shady should be guilty until proven innocent just like the judicial system is supposed to work. And we're the morons... o_O Actually many appear to be blaming her friend who decided on day of court to throw many unrelated nasty hashtags out.
scribo Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 If he did it himself, it'll be fairly easy to prove given the motive is so clear. Tracking vehicles, credit cards and of course phone is insanely easy. In the same way, it'll be easy to prove if he wasn't in the area. As for the conspiracy that he may have paid someone to pay her this visit, that could be proven all too easily, as well. I think they will be able to determine who was there. Being that the house was on such a small street, it likely will be possible for the police to find other cameras and track who's cell phone was connecting to the towers at that time. Speculating is fun, but I think we will end up with facts in this. 1
DC Tom Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 https://www.scribd.com/document/383601094/McCoy-Delicia-Cordon-2
Royale with Cheese Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Same issue in Virginia. Renter who missed several rent payments promised to make up but then missed another payment. When we gave eviction notice we were told we had to give more notice and when she finally left she wrecked the house interior. Same thing happened to my parents. They rented the house out to a local cop. He was late on rent and they couldn’t just evict. Eventually when they had to leave....destroyed the interior. My dad is the most thorough person though and had it covered. He took over 80 pics of the interior of the house the day before the cop moved in. Then took the same pics of the interior the day they moved out. My dad sued and won. The Judge even ripped the cop in the court room because he was a cop.
CuddyDark Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 9 minutes ago, corta765 said: If he told his buddies to go over and grab his stuff and they proceeded to beat her up then that is on them. If he told them to go there and hurt her then he is 100% at fault. 1st scenario would clear McCoy to the extent he didn't order a hit or anything and things got out of hand. NFL will suspend and its up to Bills if they keep him. The second he goes to prison. That's all I was saying and I agree any connection in anyway he is toast both NFL and potentially life wise. Doesn't matter what he told them. If they entered the home with force, Shady will get the same invasion charge they get, and every charge after the invasion. It will be just as he was there with them. It don't matter what he told them. If they entered with force, it will be bad for him. If he's tied to it. 2
Cmdjr85 Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 He didnt do anything, he will never see a courtroom. Unfortunately the nfl can suspend him down thr road just because they can.
Buffaloflash Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 32 minutes ago, Billschinatown said: So Lesean went through legal means all the way through with the court ****...and then he hired someone to beat her up last day? Hmmm....seems odd. Doesn't it? Yes it does....It would appear that someone didn't want to see the Judge!
dezertbill Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 13 minutes ago, corta765 said: If he told his buddies to go over and grab his stuff and they proceeded to beat her up then that is on them. If he told them to go there and hurt her then he is 100% at fault. 1st scenario would clear McCoy to the extent he didn't order a hit or anything and things got out of hand. NFL will suspend and its up to Bills if they keep him. The second he goes to prison. That's all I was saying and I agree any connection in anyway he is toast both NFL and potentially life wise. This. Although keep in mind this is a unique situation where the player didn't lay hands on the woman. If he is within the law and his rights, does the NFL suspend?
BringBackFergy Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 Felony murder rule (someone dies by accident during the commission of a felony) and “transferred intent” (swinging your fist at one person and another person gets hit) may come into play here. Not saying anyone was murdered, but the same concept holds true. If Shady told a buddy “Go to my house and get my stuff” whatever they did and any injuries resulting therefrom as per his initial direction can be connected back to him. Kind of interesting to see what the end result is. 2
Daisy days Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 In the couple years I have been coming to this board this by far has to be the most posted on.... especially this quickly
DrDawkinstein Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 I wonder if Shady made friends with another famous Bills running back who has a history of breaking into places, demanding his stuff back, and beating women.... Anyone know where OJ was last night?!?
CuddyDark Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Cmdjr85 said: He didnt do anything, he will never see a courtroom. Unfortunately the nfl can suspend him down thr road just because they can. That's not how it works. If he was involved in any way. If he paid them. If they did it on his behalf, he will get a conspiracy charge. Go look at what happened to rae carruth.
GunnerBill Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 Only just catching up with this. So... allegations made, picture posted, Shady denies. Let's hope this is not true. 2
DrDawkinstein Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 1 minute ago, BoldBully said: In the couple years I have been coming to this board this by far has to be the most posted on.... especially this quickly It's definitely a fast one. And I think we'll beat Maclin-Watch and Mario-Watch for sure.
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