BringBackOrton Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 50 minutes ago, Gugny said: As I got older, I just paid attention more. I form my own opinions/beliefs based on why I see and what I learn. Sometimes my stance ends up being popular with those on the conservative side; sometimes (more often), liberal. Most of my liberal views are on social issues. I think, as time has gone one, I realized that I have a problem with a government creating and enforcing rules and policies that affect people whom they've never met - and most of those people (female, not rich, gay, minority) are different than those making/enforcing the rules. Social "issues" are the biggest problem with our government in the last 20 years. Politicians taking hard stances on things like gay marriage is so silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Azalin said: You were an ultra-right winger as a teen? I'd be interested to hear what caused you to change so much. I've changed and grown over the years myself, but I started as a little red-flag waving commie, eventually moving to the center and then on to a more classical liberal/libertarian bent. The usual progression for is people left to right. (I have also done it.)A man who is not a Liberal at sixteen has no heart; a man who is not a Conservative at sixty has no head. —Benjamin Disraeli (British Statesman, lived 1804-1881) Edited July 7, 2018 by Buffalo_Gal 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 5 hours ago, Gugny said: As I got older, I just paid attention more. I form my own opinions/beliefs based on why I see and what I learn. Sometimes my stance ends up being popular with those on the conservative side; sometimes (more often), liberal. Most of my liberal views are on social issues. I think, as time has gone one, I realized that I have a problem with a government creating and enforcing rules and policies that affect people whom they've never met - and most of those people (female, not rich, gay, minority) are different than those making/enforcing the rules. One of the things I respect about you. I mean...while you're obviously an idiot, you're an idiot who forms his own moronic opinions and doesn't just parrot the last bumper sticker he saw. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) I paid attention in college, and paid a bit more attention as a journalist in NC for a handful of years, but it kicked in full boat during the 2008 election. While I readily admit I am not particularly well versed in a specific skill set, I do possess decent instincts to the extent I can size people up pretty accurately, pretty quickly. It served me well as a salesperson for years, but Barack Obama absolutely buried the needle on my bullschittometer and I couldn't take it any more. I started attending Tea Party rallies and doing all the things I could to change minds, but it was all for naught, not because I found Obama a disgusting human, but because all my efforts led to a John McCain nomination. Beyond the fact that the media was determined to have their first black president, he was also running against Mccain who, compared to Obama, is best described as "Dorf on Golf." By the time McCain mentioned during a debate that we need to bail out the people with bad loans, I had enough. I was no longer a Republican. I was just a conservative who wanted less government in our lives, and a much smaller government overall. It's still doesn't matter because I live in CA, which has a supermajority in virtually every city. I voted for SMOD in 2016, convinced (like the rest of the world) that it was going to be Hillary in a landslide. I had no use for Trump as a human. Now I put my voice to good use; laughing at the Obama-adoring leftists melting down. Trump is playing them like a harp from hell. Sidenote: I've turned off anything news related on TV or radio. All of it. I'm much happier. Edited July 7, 2018 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 hours ago, DC Tom said: One of the things I respect about you. I mean...while you're obviously an idiot, you're an idiot who forms his own moronic opinions and doesn't just parrot the last bumper sticker he saw. I was having a less-than-stellar day and this cheered me right up. It's the nicest back-handed compliment I've ever gotten! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: I was having a less-than-stellar day and this cheered me right up. It's the nicest back-handed compliment I've ever gotten! what happened to Mr. Met? did the O's eat him or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Foxx said: what happened to Mr. Met? did the O's eat him or something? Yes! Tastes just like chicken! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 28 minutes ago, Gugny said: I was having a less-than-stellar day and this cheered me right up. It's the nicest back-handed compliment I've ever gotten! No problem. Any time you need someone to belittle you in to feeling better about yourself, just let me know. For a schmuck like you, it's literally the least I can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: No problem. Any time you need someone to belittle you in to feeling better about yourself, just let me know. For a schmuck like you, it's literally the least I can do. into. Moron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: into. Moron. Something you read off some liberal bumper sticker, I suppose? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I was most interested in politics in HS during Reagan and have become progressively less interested in it ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I was in 11th grade the year of the Watergate hearings (1974) and that is US history. The teacher spent most of the spring going over the Constitution and she used the hearings to go over yje part on impeachment. We had homework to watch the news about the hearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Wacka said: I was in 11th grade the year of the Watergate hearings (1974) and that is US history. The teacher spent most of the spring going over the Constitution and she used the hearings to go over yje part on impeachment. We had homework to watch the news about the hearings. My son was in 8th grade during the Clinton-Trump race. His Social Studies teacher gave the class an assignment to watch the final debate and to make notes on each candidate's comments, claims, behavior, etc. I thought it was a great assignment. We actually watched the debate together and each took notes so we could compare/discuss when it was over. The teacher must have gotten smacked down, because he never collected the assignment and they never discussed the debate in class. I thought that sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Firing Line is back on PBS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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