President Donald J. Trump's Supreme Court Associate Justice Kavanaugh

[BeginnersMind]

8 hours ago, DC Tom said:

Reminder to all Democrats:

 

Feinstein sat on this for months, then slow-rolled it out.

 

She does not have the accuser's interests at heart, like you're all saying.  Feinstein is not championing women's rights here.  Feinstein's just using the her for political purposes.

 

Politicians are political. It was a shrewd political move timed for maximum effect.

 

if she asked during the hearings, it would not have gotten this much attention. But I believe she hoped for a longer delay, and did not achieve that ultimate goal. 

Edited September 18, 2018 by BeginnersMind

[Buffalo_Gal]

47 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Politicians are political. It was a shrewd political move timed for maximum effect.

 

if she asked during the hearings, it would not have gotten this much attention. But I believe she hoped for a longer delay, and did not achieve that ultimate goal. 

Well, the "shrewd" political move may result in a lawsuit of defamation of character lawsuit, and he will still be confirmed. Hope it is worth it to the good Dr. 

[BeginnersMind]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Well, the "shrewd" political move may result in a lawsuit of defamation of character lawsuit, and he will still be confirmed. Hope it is worth it to the good Dr. 

 

Kavanaugh isn’t suing anyone. Especially if he gets confirmed. She will be elevated to hero status and speak at rallies for the rest of the mid term cycle. No matter how this plays out, the Ds got their win. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, BeginnersMind said:

 

Kavanaugh isn’t suing anyone. Especially if he gets confirmed. She will be elevated to hero status and speak at rallies for the rest of the mid term cycle. No matter how this plays out, the Ds got their win. 

Really? That is how you see this? A D "win"? m'kay

I agree that if he is confirmed he will probably not sue her. 

[4merper4mer]

56 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Politicians are political. It was a shrewd political move timed for maximum effect.

 

if she asked during the hearings, it would not have gotten this much attention. But I believe she hoped for a longer delay, and did not achieve that ultimate goal. 

For someone constantly advocating kindness and a genteel nature on a message board you sure seem to have a lot of excuses and admiration for what Feinstein has done here.  But I've cracked the code as to why.  You're a commie.

 

Monday is going to be an absolute circus.  Congrats.

[3rdnlng]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Really? That is how you see this? A D "win"? m'kay

I agree that if he is confirmed he will probably not sue her. 

Remember, this crap is from the party of Harry Reid, who when confronted with lies about Mitt Romney defended them with "they worked, didn't they"?

[Tiberius]

Lucky for the GOP this is a good year for them in the Senate race. But, if they fail to get this over the goal line before mid terms, things get a lot tougher for them. Maybe a lame duck Senate will stuff him or another frat boy on the court, but if they don't Merrick Garland might be the only person who will get the support to move on. 

[Buffalo_Gal]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

Remember, this crap is from the party of Harry Reid, who when confronted with lies about Mitt Romney defended them with "they worked, didn't they"?

 

[BeginnersMind]

29 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

For someone constantly advocating kindness and a genteel nature on a message board you sure seem to have a lot of excuses and admiration for what Feinstein has done here.  But I've cracked the code as to why.  You're a commie.

 

Monday is going to be an absolute circus.  Congrats.

 

You attribute to me an admiration of Feinstein that I don’t have. An unverified recollection from 30 years ago should not see a public hearing unless there is a lot more evidence, but I see her timing as shrewd and manipulative. She dialed it in like a political operator. Too bad for her, the Rs called her bluff and held the hearing right away without a deawn out  imvestigation. So she got outmanuevered. 

 

As I noted elsewhere, Trump had a solid political move last night on declassifying info. That was done to counter his headwinds. 

 

 

Edited September 18, 2018 by BeginnersMind

[Tiberius]

2 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

You attribute to me an admiration of Feinstein that I don’t have. An unverified recollection from 30 years ago should be dismissed outright but I see her timing as shrewd and manipulative. She dialed it in like a political operator. 

 

As I noted elsewhere, Trump had a solid political move last night on declassifying info. That was done to counter his headwinds. 

 

 

It was a weak move by a guy who is scared and running out of options. Heck, if he can't even get his judges approved now, the evangelicals might decide he isn't work supporting anymore 

[BeginnersMind]

1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

It was a weak move by a guy who is scared and running out of options. Heck, if he can't even get his judges approved now, the evangelicals might decide he isn't work supporting anymore 

 

Youre wrong. Trump is a master of changing the dialogue. That’s what his Tweets are all about. The Ds are so dumb that they keep taking his bait. 

 

But only every time. 

Edited September 18, 2018 by BeginnersMind

[Taro T]

53 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Kavanaugh isn’t suing anyone. Especially if he gets confirmed. She will be elevated to hero status and speak at rallies for the rest of the mid term cycle. No matter how this plays out, the Ds got their win.

 

With their NeverTrump base, yes.

 

With any moderates that are still around, not so sure about that.  If these accusations are shown to be as non-credible as they initially appear this could very well backfire on them.

 

And if the accusations are non-credible, then the right has an issue to fire up their base.

[3rdnlng]

21 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

It was a weak move by a guy who is scared and running out of options. Heck, if he can't even get his judges approved now, the evangelicals might decide he isn't work supporting anymore 

 

[Tiberius]

21 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Youre wrong. Trump is a master of changing the dialogue. That’s what his Tweets are all about. The Ds are so dumb that they keep taking his bait. 

 

But only every time. 

He hasn't changed Mueller's course. And Manafort's flipping has left Trump strangely quiet...

[TakeYouToTasker]

59 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Kavanaugh isn’t suing anyone. Especially if he gets confirmed. She will be elevated to hero status and speak at rallies for the rest of the mid term cycle. No matter how this plays out, the Ds got their win. 

 

You think this ongoing demonization of men, and the attempt to pathologize normal male sexuality is a political winner?

 

I mean, maybe Democrats think they can win without carrying men, or women who are the mothers of sons.

 

Much like the ongoing shouts of racism, this is going to backfire spectacularly; and in the process is going to set the progress of women who actually have been the victims of actual sexual assault.

[BeginnersMind]

11 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

He hasn't changed Mueller's course. And Manafort's flipping has left Trump strangely quiet...

 

I’d be stunned if Mueller found anything on Trump. They found some dirty deeds but nothing directly to Don. It’s some that was wrapped up. 

7 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

You think this ongoing demonization of men, and the attempt to pathologize normal male sexuality is a political winner?

 

I mean, maybe Democrats think they can win without carrying men, or women who are the mothers of sons.

 

Much like the ongoing shouts of racism, this is going to backfire spectacularly; and in the process is going to set the progress of women who actually have been the victims of actual sexual assault.

 

People have been saying this since the 80s. Women are still oppressed and fighting back but assaults are better reported and the women are more widely supported then ever. 

 

There are bad actors to be sure, but the fear of rape accusations is mostly like a fear of sharks. 

[Tiberius]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/17/politics/mark-judge-brett-kavanaugh-high-school/index.html

 

Oh boy, lol This is Kavanugh's frat boy buddy: 

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In 2015, Judge writes in Splice Today about what he calls "damseling," which he describes as "making a woman a passive damsel in distress who needs rescuing."

"Of course, a man must be able to read a woman's signals, and it's a good thing that feminism is teaching young men that no means no and yes means yes. But there's also that ambiguous middle ground, where the woman seems interested and indicates, whether verbally or not, that the man needs to prove himself to her. And if that man is any kind of man, he'll allow himself to feel the awesome power, the wonderful beauty, of uncontrollable male passion," he wrote.

 

 

 

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Georgetown Preparatory School yearbook

Attorney Seth Berenzweig, a Virginia-based lawyer who otherwise has no connection to Kavanaugh or the allegations, was given a copy of the high school's 1983 yearbook by an individual who requested anonymity. The yearbook features captions such as "Do these guys beat their wives?" and "Prep parties raise question of legality."

In the yearbook, Judge's page included the quote: "Certain women should be struck regularly, like gongs," citing Sir Noel Coward.

"The person who contacted me wanted to make sure that all information is available to the American people," Berenzweig said.

 

 

5 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

I’d be stunned if Mueller found anything on Trump. They found some dirty deeds but nothing directly to Don. It’s some that was wrapped up. 

 

People have been saying this since the 80s. Women are still oppressed and fighting back but assaults are better reported and the women are more widely supported then ever. 

 

There are bad actors to be sure, but the fear of rape accusations is mostly like a fear of sharks. 

Get ready to be stunned! There is a reason he is obstructing justice, the argument that he is just stupid is, while understandable, not believable to that level. 

[TakeYouToTasker]

6 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

I’d be stunned if Mueller found anything on Trump. They found some dirty deeds but nothing directly to Don. It’s some that was wrapped up. 

 

People have been saying this since the 80s. Women are still oppressed and fighting back but assaults are better reported and the women are more widely supported then ever. 

 

There are bad actors to be sure, but the fear of rape accusations is mostly like a fear of sharks. 

 

Women are not oppressed in the United States in 2018; Third Wave Feminism is a supremacy movement, and has nothing to do with equality.

 

As to your last sentence, you are incredibly naïve.  What would lead you to believe that there are a greater proportion of bad actors amongst men, willing to rape a woman; then there are bad actors amongst women, willing to make false or grossly exaggerated claims (an unreciprocated attempt of a kiss is not a sexual assault) if it provides them a tangible benefit?

 

Women are not powerless; quite the contrary, women use the weapons they have been trained in for thousands of years, developed during times when they were oppressed:  guile and deceit.

 

And to be clear, I'm not saying all women.  I'm talking about the bad actors in the gender, just as you are of the opposite gender.

[DC Tom]

25 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

You think this ongoing demonization of men, and the attempt to pathologize normal male sexuality is a political winner?

 

Working pretty well so far.

[TakeYouToTasker]

Just now, DC Tom said:

 

Working pretty well so far.

 

It's hitting the wall.

 

The backlash is already beginning to hurt women in the workplace, as men are becoming less willing to work with them, and is doing so in a way that is already measurable, which is extraordinary given the newness of the #metoo nonsense.

 

Natural demographics alone work against this as roughly half the population is male, and a sizable portion of the female population are mothers to sons.

 

It won't be much longer before this is tossed on the scrap heap with "racist".