Tiberius Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Does he still believe in this type of scrutiny of the executive branch? Quote “After reflecting this evening, I am strongly opposed to giving the President any ‘break’ in the questioning regarding the details of the Lewinsky relationship” unless he “resigns” or “confesses perjury,” Kavanaugh wrote, continuing: “He has required the urgent attention of the courts and the Supreme Court for frivolous privilege claims — all to cover up his oral sex from an intern. He has lied to his aides. He has lied to the American people. He has tried to disgrace you and the Office with a sustained propaganda campaign that would make Nixon blush.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brett-kavanaugh-memo-detailed-explicit-questions-for-clinton/2018/08/20/c0854616-a488-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html?utm_term=.4215f1e13a1d
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Does he still believe in this type of scrutiny of the executive branch? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/brett-kavanaugh-memo-detailed-explicit-questions-for-clinton/2018/08/20/c0854616-a488-11e8-8fac-12e98c13528d_story.html?utm_term=.4215f1e13a1d So as a person of integrity you're on board with this choice for SC. . It would reflect support for the type of probe overseen by Herr Special Counsel Mueller.
Tiberius Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 24 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: So as a person of integrity you're on board with this choice for SC. . It would reflect support for the type of probe overseen by Herr Special Counsel Mueller. Would it? Or has his opinion changed? I think he shouldn't have anything to do at all with the investigation and all matters derived from such. He should recuse himself
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Would it? Or has his opinion changed? I think he shouldn't have anything to do at all with the investigation and all matters derived from such. He should recuse himself So, as a person of integrity, if his opinion matched yours 20 years ago, but changed to a new opinion in the 20 years since, you would be happy with him being on the Supreme Court, but only if he recuses himself from deciding issues he's nominated for to begin with because you don't like the new opinion?
Tiberius Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: So, as a person of integrity, if his opinion matched yours 20 years ago, but changed to a new opinion in the 20 years since, you would be happy with him being on the Supreme Court, but only if he recuses himself from deciding issues he's nominated for to begin with because you don't like the new opinion? But he should recuse himself and state so up front! You think he should not. And that he should give Trump a free legal pass for anything
Nanker Posted August 20, 2018 Author Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: So as a person of integrity you're on board with this choice for SC. . It would reflect support for the type of probe overseen by Herr Special Counsel Mueller. For the record, I'm all in favor of Mueller asking Trump if he put his cigar in Monica Lewinski's vagina. 1
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, Nanker said: For the record, I'm all in favor of Mueller asking Trump if he put his cigar in Monica Lewinski's vagina. What would you call Monica? The First Humidor? 1
3rdnlng Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, joesixpack said: What would you call Monica? The First Humidor? https://www.personalizationmall.com/Cigar-Accessories-c89.lp?fitemid=32066&did=307208&wordid=32066&utm_source=Bingfeed&utm_medium=cpc&msclkid=cdb52cc36cc61261497877b854c8ece0 It's a cigar cuntter! Edited August 20, 2018 by 3rdnlng
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: But he should recuse himself and state so up front! You think he should not. And that he should give Trump a free legal pass for anything It must be difficult to balance your outrage with your moral compass set to "it varies". You have a guy you didn't like because of your expectation on how he would rule in an action not before the court and unlikely to ever be there, then you found some Intel from 1998 which would indicate he would decide the case in a way consistent with your political views, but now you want to hear him say he would recuse himself from a future case should it ever be before him because you think it was all an elaborate plan to throw you off the trail and keep 45 out of trouble? That's awesome. What a world you live in. My prediction...he tells the ruling political class that will try such shenanigans to f off, but will do so in the nicest of ways.
Tiberius Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: It must be difficult to balance your outrage with your moral compass set to "it varies". You have a guy you didn't like because of your expectation on how he would rule in an action not before the court and unlikely to ever be there, then you found some Intel from 1998 which would indicate he would decide the case in a way consistent with your political views, but now you want to hear him say he would recuse himself from a future case should it ever be before him because you think it was all an elaborate plan to throw you off the trail and keep 45 out of trouble? That's awesome. What a world you live in. My prediction...he tells the ruling political class that will try such shenanigans to f off, but will do so in the nicest of ways. A criminal shouldn't be able to pick his own judge, do you agree? He should pldge to recuse himself. You disagree with that? Your theory is wrong, btw. All I'm saying is I don't trust the guy. He seemed out to get Clinton, and I'll bet he won't take the same approach to Trump. Trump appointed him, nudge nudge, wink wink, You understand what I mean?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: A criminal shouldn't be able to pick his own judge, do you agree? He should pldge to recuse himself. You disagree with that? Your theory is wrong, btw. All I'm saying is I don't trust the guy. He seemed out to get Clinton, and I'll bet he won't take the same approach to Trump. Trump appointed him, nudge nudge, wink wink, You understand what I mean? Your first question is absurd on many levels, but you know that. Any case that makes its way to the Supreme Court is decided by those confirmed to sit on the court. Your second question doubles down on stupid. Frame a question that would be posed to him that has a reasonable likelihood of being replied to by any nominee (not just the ones you don't like) and I'll gladly tell you what i think. I have no idea what your 3rd paragraph implies based on your prior arguments. You don't want a justice to give someone in a position of power a break, provided a link to a justice following that standard, but actually want a justice to use different standards for Republicans and Democrats? Base on what you said, Kavanaugh should be your guy. He didn't bow to special interests and or those in power. You're the Jan Brady of liberal politics. Too many voices telling you too many things to be upset about.
Tiberius Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 22 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Your first question is absurd on many levels, but you know that. Any case that makes its way to the Supreme Court is decided by those confirmed to sit on the court. Your second question doubles down on stupid. Frame a question that would be posed to him that has a reasonable likelihood of being replied to by any nominee (not just the ones you don't like) and I'll gladly tell you what i think. I have no idea what your 3rd paragraph implies based on your prior arguments. You don't want a justice to give someone in a position of power a break, provided a link to a justice following that standard, but actually want a justice to use different standards for Republicans and Democrats? Base on what you said, Kavanaugh should be your guy. He didn't bow to special interests and or those in power. You're the Jan Brady of liberal politics. Too many voices telling you too many things to be upset about. Boy, you get challenged and you fall apart pretty quick. That's a sign of a weak mind.
DC Tom Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Boy, you get challenged and you fall apart pretty quick. That's a sign of a weak mind. And here we see, not the common "Double dumbass on you!" or the lesser "I'm rubber you're glue" gambit, but the rare and fleeting "run away while shouting 'I win! I win!'" strategy. Usually soon followed by an archetypical example of the Gatorman Fallacy. Stay tuned... 2
Tiberius Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, DC Tom said: And here we see, not the common "Double dumbass on you!" or the lesser "I'm rubber you're glue" gambit, but the rare and fleeting "run away while shouting 'I win! I win!'" strategy. Usually soon followed by an archetypical example of the Gatorman Fallacy. Stay tuned... You are one of the biggest reasons this board has a bad repution.
3rdnlng Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 24 minutes ago, Tiberius said: You are one of the biggest reasons this board has a bad repution. I thought we were viewed very hiley. 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Boy, you get challenged and you fall apart pretty quick. That's a sign of a weak mind. i sincerely appreciate you hiding your prodigious intellect behind a veil of pretzel logic, questions that reveal an admirable dearth of understanding about the workings of the Supreme Court and the confirmation process, and a stunning display of hypocrisy that you are very comfortable acknowledging. My weak mind tells me Brett Kavanaugh gets confirmed, that your President rolls on, that you keep chasing smoke and showing your friends how much you have in your pocket, and that there is no recusal to be had. Not now, not later, not never. I guess we'll see.
Tiberius Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: i sincerely appreciate you hiding your prodigious intellect behind a veil of pretzel logic, questions that reveal an admirable dearth of understanding about the workings of the Supreme Court and the confirmation process, and a stunning display of hypocrisy that you are very comfortable acknowledging. My weak mind tells me Brett Kavanaugh gets confirmed, that your President rolls on, that you keep chasing smoke and showing your friends how much you have in your pocket, and that there is no recusal to be had. Not now, not later, not never. I guess we'll see. I think we are both on the same page. I don't trust him for the same reasons you do trust him.
Deranged Rhino Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 Whoever is running Hatch's social media accounts has been killing it lately. Go back through his timeline, there are some hilarious gems in there (said from someone who doesn't love Mr. Hatch) 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Whoever is running Hatch's social media accounts has been killing it lately. Go back through his timeline, there are some hilarious gems in there (said from someone who doesn't love Mr. Hatch) I never cared for him (we had a second residence in Utah for years) but his Twitter account has been amazing for a while now. I love reading it. I swear I want to hire whoever runs it to run my Twitter account. 1
boyst Posted August 21, 2018 Posted August 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: Whoever is running Hatch's social media accounts has been killing it lately. Go back through his timeline, there are some hilarious gems in there (said from someone who doesn't love Mr. Hatch) Dudes 4th in line as president. You better respect him, brahhhh
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