IDBillzFan Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Why on earth would any credible witnesses hitch their wagon to Avenatti? GoFundMe and media rounds at MSNBC, CNN, ABC, etc. Easiest six figures you'll ever make.
Tiberius Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: Why on earth would any credible witnesses hitch their wagon to Avenatti? If they're legit witnesses they have to know that associating with him sinks their credibility right out of the gate. FBI seems to have orders not to listen. So who are witnesses going to turn to.
Buddy Hix Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 Having been a glancing spectator to this event, mostly the testimony from last week, I’d say I found Ford to be more believable. I would imagine a lot of people might have the same opinion as me, and some may be survivors of sexual assaults themselves. Which makes the mockery of Ford by Trump last night very disgusting.
Uncle Joe Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: Avanati out with a new witness. But this one said something that looks really bad for this whole thing. The new witness connects three of the women together and says they all know each other! Have they been talking?
snafu Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Magox said: Flake sending mixed signals. Now he's saying that he doesn't believe there should be any investigation on Kavanaugh's drinking and that it's hard to judge "excess drinking". That he is content with where the FBI investigation has gone. hmmm He's a wind sock. Actually, wind socks have more usefulness.
Uncle Joe Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, snafu said: He's a wind sock. Actually, wind socks have more usefulness. Throw a wind sock in the ocean you have a sea anchor. Hmm, I can see the Dems scheming now.
IDBillzFan Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 14 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Having been a glancing spectator to this event, mostly the testimony from last week, I’d say I found Ford to be more believable. I would imagine a lot of people might have the same opinion as me, and some may be survivors of sexual assaults themselves. Which makes the mockery of Ford by Trump last night very disgusting. You may find her more believable in tone, but have you reviewed the extensive list of inaccuracies in her story; not the least of which everyone she referenced to corroborate her story specifically could not do so? They are very clear and very telling, and anyone who objectively reviews them can clearly tell the difference between she 'sounds' believable and she 'is' to be believed. I'd start with the report written by the prosecutor, and then follow it up with this article from USA Today. Dig beyond what your heard from her. It's all in this thread.
bbb Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 23 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: Having been a glancing spectator to this event, mostly the testimony from last week, I’d say I found Ford to be more believable. I would imagine a lot of people might have the same opinion as me, and some may be survivors of sexual assaults themselves. Which makes the mockery of Ford by Trump last night very disgusting. I guess I'm falling behind here - what did Trump say about Ford last night?
Buddy Hix Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: You may find her more believable in tone, but have you reviewed the extensive list of inaccuracies in her story; not the least of which everyone she referenced to corroborate her story specifically could not do so? They are very clear and very telling, and anyone who objectively reviews them can clearly tell the difference between she 'sounds' believable and she 'is' to be believed. I'd start with the report written by the prosecutor, and then follow it up with this article from USA Today. Dig beyond what your heard from her. It's all in this thread. I totally accept that and have read some of the inconsistencies in this thread. My point was that a lot of people would simply form an opinion based on the testimony from last week. And the display by the President last night was unacceptable, especially considering many victims may identify with Ford. 3 minutes ago, bbb said: I guess I'm falling behind here - what did Trump say about Ford last night? He was mocking her like and playing it up for the crowd, have a look. I just don’t see how people support this man.
Kevbeau Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: Avanati out with a new witness. But this one said something that looks really bad for this whole thing. The new witness connects three of the women together and says they all know each other! Have they been talking? My guess is it’s David Hogg. That would be the cherry on top of this $&@! Sundae
IDBillzFan Posted October 3, 2018 Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: My point was that a lot of people would simply form an opinion based on the testimony from last week. People are welcome to form opinions, but to keep Kavanaugh from the Supreme Court for one person's uncorroborated claims, regardless of how many people form an opinion based exclusively on her testimony, would be an absolute travesty that will hurt many people for many years. Trump's comments notwithstanding, she made a singular claim and we're about to find out if it has been corroborated or proven. If it can't, Kavanaugh should be confirmed. It's just that simple. 2
Rob's House Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 This is the "mocking" these douche bags are crying about. 3
bbb Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rob's House said: This is the "mocking" these douche bags are crying about. So, he said what most people on the right have been saying for weeks?!?
Foxx Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) Democratic staffer arrested in doxxing of GOP senators during Kavanaugh hearing Edited October 4, 2018 by Foxx 3
Rob's House Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, bbb said: So, he said what most people on the right have been saying for weeks?!? Revolting, ain't it?
DC Tom Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Buddy Hix said: Having been a glancing spectator to this event, mostly the testimony from last week, I’d say I found Ford to be more believable. I would imagine a lot of people might have the same opinion as me, and some may be survivors of sexual assaults themselves. Which makes the mockery of Ford by Trump last night very disgusting. I can't believe people think "belief" is any sort of acceptable standard here.
Deranged Rhino Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, Foxx said: Democratic staffer arrested in doxxing of GOP senators during Kavanaugh hearing 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I totally accept that and have read some of the inconsistencies in this thread. My point was that a lot of people would simply form an opinion based on the testimony from last week. And the display by the President last night was unacceptable, especially considering many victims may identify with Ford. He was mocking her like and playing it up for the crowd, have a look. I just don’t see how people support this man. With respect, I say to you that the people you described, who have drawn inferences from bits and pieces of testimony carefully culled from the entirety of the testimony, with questions and statements rehearsed and chorepgraphed like a Broadway extravaganza...are part of the problem. In fact, they are a large part of the problem and why this clusterf@!$ was allowed to play out. The basic premise is that anything that Ford did or said, and any conflicts that arise, are all explained away by her status as a victim. Meanwhile, shes retained top political operatives to carry her flag, shes experienced in the field of human psychology and she's operating at a time when victim status is a badge of honor in our society. Trump, for all his bluster is painted as a bully here, defending a guy who until 2 weeks ago was a pretty vanilla dude, all while vultures in the Senate, Congress and media figuratively take turns bashing the nominee in the skull with a brick and get praise from their supporters. 1
Buffalo_Gal Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 46 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: I totally accept that and have read some of the inconsistencies in this thread. My point was that a lot of people would simply form an opinion based on the testimony from last week. And the display by the President last night was unacceptable, especially considering many victims may identify with Ford. He was mocking her like and playing it up for the crowd, have a look. I just don’t see how people support this man. Quite the opposite has been the result from what I have been reading online, the groups I belong to, and even the discussions I have had with friends - actual sexual assault victims are pissed as hell at that lunatic. Not only is she completely unbelievable with her "little girl" act (I stand by the 50-year-old Valley Girl on helium analogy) and ever-changing stories and lies, she has set believability for real victims of sexual assault back to the "can't believe her" stage. Truly a travesty. 1 1
B-Man Posted October 4, 2018 Posted October 4, 2018 20 minutes ago, Rob's House said: This is the "mocking" these douche bags are crying about. Hugh Hewitt and Ari Fleischer SLAP DOWN latest media narrative that Trump ‘mocked’ Dr. Ford at rally
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