BeginnersMind Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Foxx said: it's simple. it is going to go from a #shitshow to a #shittiershow Who questions Kavanaugh for the Rs? Mitchell or the Rs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Just now, 4merper4mer said: That is correct but their path to that goal was extremely narrow given how stories get spun. Whether or not she was abused by Kavanagh or someone else as a teen, she is getting abused by her lawyers, and Feinstein now. They can all sit up there telling her she is brave but they give #%^* zero about her personally. It doesn't matter. It should never been about her and her story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: Tell him it's not the meat but the motion and give the women reading glasses. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeginnersMind Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Tin foil hats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Present to me the legal case(s) being made by "the right" under which the presumption of innocence should be scraped when the accused is a minority. Document this on any level of American legislature, never mind in a freaking Senate hearing. Also, document why you believe Brett Kavanaugh to be an "entitled prick". Your president believes suspects should be manhandled upon arrest. Or was that a joke? I don't have the time or the energy to explain what it is I don't like about Brett Kavanaugh. He's not my kind of guy. My brother went to a school just like Georgetown Prep and then to Yale because he worked his a*s off. I personally encountered enough Brett Kavanaugh's to form an opinion of this particular Brett Kavanaugh. Get drunk. Do awful sh*t. And then get away with it because Daddy has an unlimited checkbook. We're all shaped by experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Hix Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 On 9/26/2018 at 11:00 AM, 3rdnlng said: This subject has been beaten to death here. The answer to your question is in this thread, over and over again. You tend to make a habit of visiting here on rare occasions while being ignorant of the subject, and requesting that the regulars here become your personal Reader's Digest. If you want to become more political savvy why not actually join the PPP discussions here and learn something? It moves too quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 If you are an R Senator I think there was nothing disclosed, so far, to disqualify Brett Kavanaugh's SC confirmation vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Your president believes suspects should be manhandled upon arrest. Or was that a joke? I don't have the time or the energy to explain what it is I don't like about Brett Kavanaugh. He's not my kind of guy. My brother went to a school just like Georgetown Prep and then to Yale because he worked his a*s off. I personally encountered enough Brett Kavanaugh's to form an opinion of this particular Brett Kavanaugh. Get drunk. Do awful sh*t. And then get away with it because Daddy has an unlimited checkbook. We're all shaped by experience. Is gator logic contagious? Do I have gator logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Your president believes suspects should be manhandled upon arrest. Or was that a joke? I don't have the time or the energy to explain what it is I don't like about Brett Kavanaugh. He's not my kind of guy. My brother went to a school just like Georgetown Prep and then to Yale because he worked his a*s off. I personally encountered enough Brett Kavanaugh's to form an opinion of this particular Brett Kavanaugh. Get drunk. Do awful sh*t. And then get away with it because Daddy has an unlimited checkbook. We're all shaped by experience. i don't want to destroy your delusion here but, i've got news for you. he is your President as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buddy Hix said: It moves too quickly. He has had 6 FBI background checks already. This matter is not in the FBI's jurisdiction. The standard for FBI investigations is not "I want one." There you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: It doesn't matter. It should never been about her and her story. Should be and will be are two different things. It is about whatever the NY Times says it is about and that made many questions Mitchell could ask off the table. Side note: our country was not founded on the idea of senators sitting up high and talking down at everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: Should be and will be are two different things. It is about whatever the NY Times says it is about and that made many questions Mitchell could ask off the table. Side note: our country was not founded on the idea of senators sitting up high and talking down at everyone else. I do not believe the Republicans had zero chances to attempt to change the narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Your president believes suspects should be manhandled upon arrest. Or was that a joke? He's your President just as much as he is mine. However, to the meat: Please source where the President says "minorities should be manhandled, but white people should not." The point you made was that the political right in America believes that minorities should have their right to the presumption of innocence overturned. Provide evidence of this. I don't have the time or the energy to explain what it is I don't like about Brett Kavanaugh. He's not my kind of guy. My brother went to a school just like Georgetown Prep and then to Yale because he worked his a*s off. I personally encountered enough Brett Kavanaugh's to form an opinion of this particular Brett Kavanaugh. Get drunk. Do awful sh*t. And then get away with it because Daddy has an unlimited checkbook. We're all shaped by experience. So what you're saying is that you think it's perfectly reasonable to form opinions about people you've never met, or had any encounters with, based on your on personal biases. Where I'm from they call that prejudice and bigotry. You don't like him for the same reason Klansmen don't like blacks or Jews. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 Just now, BringBackOrton said: I do not believe the Republicans had zero chances to attempt to change the narrative. They had a million chances and would be evicerated for anything that publicly questioned her integrity. Lets say they ripped her apart, broke her down but suddenly she realized she had been abused but it was not by Kavanagh. How would they be viewed, reported even though they were correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: I do not believe the Republicans had zero chances to attempt to change the narrative. And who is the audience for this narrative? Republican Senators. So far I haven't heard anything that a Republican Senator could use to justify a vote against Brett Kavanaugh for the USSC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Your president believes suspects should be manhandled upon arrest. Or was that a joke? I don't have the time or the energy to explain what it is I don't like about Brett Kavanaugh. He's not my kind of guy. My brother went to a school just like Georgetown Prep and then to Yale because he worked his a*s off. I personally encountered enough Brett Kavanaugh's to form an opinion of this particular Brett Kavanaugh. Get drunk. Do awful sh*t. And then get away with it because Daddy has an unlimited checkbook. We're all shaped by experience. Someone’s angry he wasn’t smart enough to go to college ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Maybe she was just passing to him her fantasy football lineup? Edited September 27, 2018 by bdutton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: They had a million chances and would be evicerated for anything that publicly questioned her integrity. Lets say they ripped her apart, broke her down but suddenly she realized she had been abused but it was not by Kavanagh. How would they be viewed, reported even though they were correct? YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT. It should never have been about her credibility about her abuse. First question, "Dr. Ford, in this country we have a standard of evidence used in court, which is important to ensure that justice is served. What evidence do you have of this incident?" "I have me saying it happened." "What other evidence do you have?" "Uh" "What evidence do you have it was Brett Kavanugh who committed this horrible act?" "Uh, I said it." "Thank you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted September 27, 2018 Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: He's your President just as much as he is mine. However, to the meat: Please source where the President says "minorities should be manhandled, but white people should not." The point you made was that the political right in America believes that minorities should have their right to the presumption of innocence overturned. Provide evidence of this. So what you're saying is that you think it's perfectly reasonable to form opinions about people you've never met, or had any encounters with, based on your on personal biases. Where I'm from they call that prejudice and bigotry. You don't like him for the same reason Klansmen don't like blacks or Jews. And like Klansmen, I'm willing to own my bias. I don't like prep school punks born with a silver spoon in their mouth, especially when they espouse holier than thou judicial policies. I feel like society would have more productive conversations if people would just drop the guise of impartiality. Nobody is 100% impartial. It's impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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