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1 minute ago, Tiberius said:

Oh wait, I remember another time. Some guy was saying this girl, a daughter of the girlfriend of a manager where I worked, was screwing a whole bunch of guys one at a time. Then I met her and she was so beautiful, just totally smoking hot, and I guess I liked her, so I thought it was bull sh it. Just an attempt to smear her, but no proof either way. 

 

In other words you have friends who talk about gang rape.

 

You're making my point.  Thanks.

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4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

In other words you have friends who talk about gang rape.

 

You're making my point.  Thanks.

It wasn't explained as rape, it was explained as if she did this for fun. But, it might have been a rape, or just made up. 

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Just now, Tiberius said:

It wasn't explained as rape, it was explained as if she did this for fun. But, it might have been a rape, or just made up. 

 

So in other words, it was guys talking about women and sex the way fishermen talk about the fish they've caught.

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4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

So in other words, it was guys talking about women and sex the way fishermen talk about the fish they've caught.

No, gang rape isn't like that, not catching a fish 

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NBC just reporting another women has come forward for a drunken attack on her daughter in 1998. No link, sorry

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5 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

Let me know when you get to the part where she needed a second door to the front of her house.

 

Hey, not just attempted rape, but attempted manslaughter.  Strange no one's talking about that...

 

It's a well-coached letter.  There's one simple question that I'd ask that would cement this once and for all: 

 

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There was music already playing in the room.  It was turned up louder by either Brett or Mark once we were in the room.

 

"What song was playing?"

 

I've known a sadly large number of rape victims, and "he turned the music up so no one would hear me scream" is fairly common.  But I have never known one who's testified to that to fail to remember the song that was playing.  Ever.  Other details may be hazy, but they always remember the song that triggers their PTSD.

 

 

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18 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

Let me know when you get to the part where she needed a second door to the front of her house.

 

I'm not sure what I find more preposterous in her statement: That she demanded a second front door, that she and her husband had to go to couple's counseling because they disagreed on an architectural design, or that she said (in 2012) that her attacker was someday going to be on the Supreme Court.

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4 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

 

I've known a sadly large number of rape victims, and "he turned the music up so no one would hear me scream" is fairly common.  But I have never known one who's testified to that to fail to remember the song that was playing.  Ever.  Other details may be hazy, but they always remember the song that triggers their PTSD.

 

 

 

Is that right? And not to be too personal, but why? I don't believe I know any, or at least any who have reported the rape. Sure I have friends/ acquaintances who have been rape victims, I am just not aware.

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1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:

Is that right? And not to be too personal, but why? I don't believe I know any, or at least any who have reported the rape. Sure I have friends/ acquaintances who have been rape victims, I am just not aware.

What's the one common denominator here?:bag:

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8 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

Come on man.  You think I was talking about fish?  Something smells fishy here.

Sure does! 

11 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Hey, not just attempted rape, but attempted manslaughter.  Strange no one's talking about that...

 

It's a well-coached letter.  There's one simple question that I'd ask that would cement this once and for all: 

 

 

"What song was playing?"

 

I've known a sadly large number of rape victims, and "he turned the music up so no one would hear me scream" is fairly common.  But I have never known one who's testified to that to fail to remember the song that was playing.  Ever.  Other details may be hazy, but they always remember the song that triggers their PTSD.

 

 

At 15? It could have been a song she never heard before. There are a lot of different types of music and a 15 year old might not have a great deal of music experience outside of pop 

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6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Sure does! 

At 15? It could have been a song she never heard before. There are a lot of different types of music and a 15 year old might not have a great deal of music experience outside of pop 

 

One would hear that same song again at some point their lives, so there is that detail.

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3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

Is that right? And not to be too personal, but why? I don't believe I know any, or at least any who have reported the rape. Sure I have friends/ acquaintances who have been rape victims, I am just not aware.

 

Just lucky, I guess. 

 

That, and sexual assault is a hell of a lot more common than people realize, even after discounting all the bull **** "It was consensual at the time, but I regret it now" and "I didn't want to say yes, but didn't want to argue about it" or "I wanted to have sex, but he wouldn't unless I wore his favorite eye shadow" stories.  On a strict definition of "By use of physical force or abusive emotional manipulation, I was refused control," it probably runs on the order of 25% of women I've known.  

2 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

I don’t know.  What??

 

Me.  He's accusing me of being a serial rapist.  Guess I'll never be a Supreme Court Justice.

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13 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

Me.  He's accusing me of being a serial rapist.  Guess I'll never be a Supreme Court Justice.

 

Does this mean you will now have to return your Nobel Prize and Purple Heart?

Posted
23 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Sure does! 

At 15? It could have been a song she never heard before. There are a lot of different types of music and a 15 year old might not have a great deal of music experience outside of pop 

 

I listened to Billy Cobham and Tchaikovsky when I was 15.

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20 minutes ago, Commsvet11 said:

 

One would hear that same song again at some point their lives, so there is that detail.

Maybe, maybe not. Different people listen to different stuff, maybe it was Megadeath, and she never listen to that. Most people don't 

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I'm thinking the judge is toast.  It's just too easy to start over and pick another assuming they can get through confirmation in 2018.  If the judge is being truthful or the allegations are wildly exaggerated then he has to fight on, but the headwinds are getting strong.  If this is a hatchet job based on false or exaggerated allegations it's every bit as bad as the FBI/DOJ interference in Trump's campaign and presidency. 

 

Unless BK knocks the socks of everyone tomorrow and the accuser(s) are weak, he's a goner IMO. 

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