whatdrought Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 The running joke seems to be about RBG staying alive for the next 6 years, but my question is this: How long can the dems keep a "weekend at bernies" situation going with her if she does kick it? She'll die and we wont hear of it for a year.
IDBillzFan Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 2:41 PM, Cinga said: I wonder what a California National Defense or flag would look like? Expand I suspect the state's defense would look a lot like the state's bullet train.
LSHMEAB Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 2:15 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: No, she does not. Senators do not represent the electorate. They represent the interests of the several states, and are supposed to be the advocate for state's rights within the federal government. That they have abrogated this duty, and that the 17th prescribes direct election, does not change what the Senate represents within our bicameral legislature. In fact, it's the whole purpose of it's bicameral nature. Yours is an argument for the abolition of the Senate, even though you don't realize it. Expand What is a state without people? Besides Wyoming and SNorth Dakota of course. In all seriousness, what are the interests of a particular state separate from the interests of that state's constituents?
boyst Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 4:51 PM, LSHMEAB said: What is a state without people? Besides Wyoming and SNorth Dakota of course. In all seriousness, what are the interests of a particular state separate from the interests of that state's constituents? Expand You are a joke. You're annoying here. And anyone consistently replying to you should be banned. You efforts to make PPP what you are, a jumbled mess of a shamble is exactly that - you obfuscate every topic you touch. Lshmeab = shamble. I'm going to just think of you for what you are. Slow adult.
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 4:51 PM, LSHMEAB said: What is a state without people? Besides Wyoming and SNorth Dakota of course. In all seriousness, what are the interests of a particular state separate from the interests of that state's constituents? Expand What do you know about the concepts of states rights vs individual rights vs federal permissions? 1
boyst Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 5:00 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: What do you know about the concepts of states rights vs individual rights vs federal permissions? Expand Why give him time of day?
LSHMEAB Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 5:00 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: What do you know about the concepts of states rights vs individual rights vs federal permissions? Expand I know that my state now allows individuals to buy and sell marijuana with tepid federal permission. I don't understand what entity Murkowski is representing with her SC vote if not the people....err....state she represents.
DC Tom Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 4:51 PM, LSHMEAB said: What is a state without people? Besides Wyoming and SNorth Dakota of course. In all seriousness, what are the interests of a particular state separate from the interests of that state's constituents? Expand Read the Constitution, and note the difference in responsibilities between House and Senate. That's your answer.
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 5:00 PM, Boyst62 said: Why give him time of day? Expand Because cordial disagreement is not cause for dismissal, and I have found him to be neither argumentative for the sake of being argumentative, nor intentionally intellectually dishonest. IE. I believe open conversation about important issues to be vital to the health of our society, and try to do my best (though sometimes I fail) to welcome all honest participants to discuss their ideas, and to vet mine. I'm not interested in echo chambers. They aren't healthy. 3
Nanker Posted October 9, 2018 Author Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 2:41 PM, Cinga said: I wonder what a California National Defense or flag would look like? Expand 1
Koko78 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 5:10 PM, Nanker said: Expand A reference to the Confederate Battle Flag?!?! That's raysis! 1
Nanker Posted October 9, 2018 Author Posted October 9, 2018 Naw. It's actually a Nazi flag for their dirigible corps. That's appropriate. They're a bunch of Nazis and they're lighter than air and think they're superior.
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 5:04 PM, LSHMEAB said: I know that my state now allows individuals to buy and sell marijuana with tepid federal permission. I don't understand what entity Murkowski is representing with her SC vote if not the people....err....state she represents. Expand It goes back to the Foundational concept that the bodies of law governing individuals in America are supposed to exist, in an overwhelming way, at the state and local level; and that very few laws should exist on a federal level. States rights were the intention that the citizens of Alaska might choose to live their lives under a very different set of laws than citizens of Florida. (neither of those states being part of the original Compact, but I'm using them as examples of people living in very different places with very different cultures and political beliefs). States rights, as a concept, protect New Yorkers from having to live under the auspices of the political philosophies of Texans, and vice versa. The idea being that individual citizens are far more prone to swells of populism and stoked mob desire than the state governments themselves; and that a government dictated by populism was far more prone to upheaval and instability than one steadied by statesmen, who were themselves still beholden, somewhat indirectly to the citizens. 1
Koko78 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 5:14 PM, Nanker said: Naw. It's actually a Nazi flag for their dirigible corps. That's appropriate. They're a bunch of Nazis and they're lighter than air and think they're superior. Expand I think you missed the joke...
B-Man Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 Let's not give up on this so quick. And then................."Mother Nature" can take care of the rest .
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) On 10/9/2018 at 5:24 PM, B-Man said: Let's not give up on this so quick. And then................."Mother Nature" can take care of the rest . Expand I propose that the citizens of "New California" quickly settle this dispute and get along quickly with the dividing of their state into two or three, else they be swept out as part of the problem. The United States does not need California, much less coastal California; and I say be done with them. Edited October 9, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 4
Koko78 Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 5:24 PM, B-Man said: Let's not give up on this so quick. And then................."Mother Nature" can take care of the rest . Expand Build a wall and let the people in the blue area feed themselves (as well as all of the illegal aliens they like to provide 'sanctuary' for), since they have such disdain for the rest of the nation. 1
Nanker Posted October 9, 2018 Author Posted October 9, 2018 Let Mexico annex Coastal California and give money for The Wall as payment.
IDBillzFan Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) On 10/9/2018 at 5:24 PM, B-Man said: Let's not give up on this so quick. And then................."Mother Nature" can take care of the rest . Expand It's all a dream, I know, but this will never happen. CA will never be split up into multiple states, and it will never be its own country. It will just continue to be the Angelina Jolie of the country: beautiful to look at, but broken and crazy on the inside. Edited October 9, 2018 by LABillzFan 1
Cinga Posted October 9, 2018 Posted October 9, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 5:26 PM, TakeYouToTasker said: I propose that the citizens of "New California" quickly settle this dispute and get along quickly with the dividing of their state into two or three, else they be swept out as part of the problem. The United States does not need California, much less costal California; and I say be done with them. Expand Nor only that, but i do not want to reward California for their idiocy by giving them 4 or 6 Senators instead of the 2 they have now...
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