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  On 9/22/2018 at 10:24 PM, DC Tom said:

 

Absolutely.  Made me do a double-take to check the URL.

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Which I definitely did not do. Scrappleface indeed. :lol:

Please excuse me, I’m in the middle of evening cocktails. (And that’s not an open invitation for Jeff to chime in. :ph34r:

 

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This thread is anecdotal, but the conversations I've had this week with women I know (friends, and we run the spectrum from left to right... political conversations can get er,  boisterous)  have been pretty much the same:
 

 

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  On 9/22/2018 at 11:11 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:



This thread is anecdotal, but the conversations I've had this week with women I know (friends, and we run the spectrum from left to right... political conversations can get er,  boisterous)  have been pretty much the same:
 

 

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No idea what any of the above means.

 

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  On 9/22/2018 at 10:52 PM, Buffalo_Gal said:


 

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Bull.  If it were planned that far in advance, they would have been removed before the accusation was made.

 

Plus...you don't have to remove the online data.  You only have to remove the references from the search engine index.  If you can't google it, it doesn't exist.

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  On 9/23/2018 at 12:03 AM, DC Tom said:

 

Bull.  If it were planned that far in advance, they would have been removed before the accusation was made.

 

Plus...you don't have to remove the online data.  You only have to remove the references from the search engine index.  If you can't google it, it doesn't exist.

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 Deindexing a site, disavowing links to pull them off search, deleting Facebook (Facebook doesn't allow a crawl since they kicked bing off years ago), twitter, etc takes some time unless you have an insider at each of the companies where content is removed. The waybackmachine is also a decent source for old content that is no longer available on the original site.

 

  I know a regular person like me would have to hope google (search) pulled all my references at request, and  it probably would only happen if I didn't want the content down. ? 

 

Not sure I believe 6 months, but 6 weeks without insider help? That I could believe. And, some of the content was still being scrubbed after the DiFi letter drop (the yearbook at her high school for instance).

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  On 9/23/2018 at 12:41 AM, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 Deindexing a site, disavowing links to pull them off search, deleting Facebook (Facebook doesn't allow a crawl since they kicked bing off years ago), twitter, etc takes some time unless you have an insider at each of the companies where content is removed. The waybackmachine is also a decent source for old content that is no longer available on the original site.

 

  I know a regular person like me would have to hope google (search) pulled all my references at request, and  it probably would only happen if I didn't want the content down. ? 

 

Not sure I believe 6 months, but 6 weeks without insider help? That I could believe. And, some of the content was still being scrubbed after the DiFi letter drop (the yearbook at her high school for instance).

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"Insider help" like...the people at Google who have already talked about scrubbing search results for political reasons?  Facebook, who's spent the past two years being raked over the coals and developing real-time processes and procedures to censor whatever they define as "fake news" or "hate speech?"

 

Welcome to the dangers of the "Russia hacked our election" over-reaction.  There is no way to suppress "fake" information without the capacity to suppress any and all information.  Even if they can't do it know, they've been publicly working on that ability for two years.  

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  On 9/23/2018 at 1:11 AM, DC Tom said:

 

"Insider help" like...the people at Google who have already talked about scrubbing search results for political reasons?  Facebook, who's spent the past two years being raked over the coals and developing real-time processes and procedures to censor whatever they define as "fake news" or "hate speech?"

 

Welcome to the dangers of the "Russia hacked our election" over-reaction.  There is no way to suppress "fake" information without the capacity to suppress any and all information.  Even if they can't do it know, they've been publicly working on that ability for two years.  

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Your first paragraph is what I believe happened for search and social - insider "help". The rest was seemingly done with professional-grade phone calls and online "assistance". (Hence the extra time  and some "before our very eyes" removals. ) 

 

It does amaze me how everyone must have jumped when whoever called. Must be some big money behind this.

 

Say... didn't Kavanaugh help write the Starr Report?

 

This is all conjecture on my part, however.

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  On 9/23/2018 at 3:02 AM, Deranged Rhino said:

 

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This is pretty sad.  While this:

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Ford's lawyer Debra Katz said in response to Keyser's attorney's statement that it makes sense that Keyser wouldn't remember, because Ford has said she did not share her allegations "publicly or with anyone for years."

 

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Is true, if you're claiming this

 

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"I understand that you have been identified as an individual who was in attendance at a party that occurred circa 1982 described in a recent Washington Post article," a committee staffer wrote Keyser earlier this week.

 

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Establishing someone as a witness to your accusation, then this:

 

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"It's not surprising that Ms Keyser has no recollection of the evening as they did not discuss it," Katz said in a statement. "It's also unremarkable that Ms. Keyser does not remember attending a specific gathering 30 years ago at which nothing of consequence happened to her. Dr. Ford of course will never forget this gathering because of what happened to her there."

 

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Is patently ridiculous.  They are directly stating that the witnesses who corroborate their accusation are not credible witnesses.  What's more, they're using that lack of credibility and the accusation to justify each other - "She's a witness...but she won't remember anything, because nothing happened to her, which proves our story!"

 

This has entered conspiracy theory territory, where even evidence that contradicts the accusation proves the accusation.  The truly nauseating thing about it is how many victims of sexual assault this is going to discourage from coming forward.  

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  On 9/23/2018 at 3:23 AM, DC Tom said:

 

This is pretty sad.  While this:

 

Is true, if you're claiming this

 

 

Establishing someone as a witness to your accusation, then this:

 

 

Is patently ridiculous.  They are directly stating that the witnesses who corroborate their accusation are not credible witnesses.  What's more, they're using that lack of credibility and the accusation to justify each other - "She's a witness...but she won't remember anything, because nothing happened to her, which proves our story!"

 

This has entered conspiracy theory territory, where even evidence that contradicts the accusation proves the accusation.  The truly nauseating thing about it is how many victims of sexual assault this is going to discourage from coming forward.  

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Stated very succinctly.

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  On 9/23/2018 at 3:23 AM, DC Tom said:

 

This is pretty sad.  While this:

 

Is true, if you're claiming this

 

 

Establishing someone as a witness to your accusation, then this:

 

 

Is patently ridiculous.  They are directly stating that the witnesses who corroborate their accusation are not credible witnesses.  What's more, they're using that lack of credibility and the accusation to justify each other - "She's a witness...but she won't remember anything, because nothing happened to her, which proves our story!"

 

This has entered conspiracy theory territory, where even evidence that contradicts the accusation proves the accusation.  The truly nauseating thing about it is how many victims of sexual assault this is going to discourage from coming forward.  

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The next thing you know, Greggy will be saying Sitcom Math proves aliens.

 

  On 9/23/2018 at 3:37 AM, Buffalo_Gal said:

Ms. Keyser is Bob Beckel's ex-wife.

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Which might mean she chose to forget as much of her past as possible.

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  On 9/22/2018 at 10:45 PM, Nanker said:

Which I definitely did not do. Scrappleface indeed. :lol:

Please excuse me, I’m in the middle of evening cocktails. (And that’s not an open invitation for Jeff to chime in. :ph34r:

 

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Scrappleface is a site run by Scott Ott, a regular guy who has a sense of humor and is also an evangelical. He's a friend of mine on FB and I have no idea how we connected. I do know that he ran for county executive in eastern PA and then moved to Texas after he lost. He works a regular job and drives a 20 year old truck. Scrappleface is a site yuall might want to connect to. Clean, but funny.

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