Tiberius Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: BTW, i also agree that the causes of the Civil were complex..but to deny that slavery was the central issue that was driving division amongst the states I think is intellectually dishonest. States rights and economic uncertainty all stemmed from the slavery issue. I think it is though...it was kinda funny by Tom..and quite literally accurate That he freed more slaves than Lincoln? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just now, Tiberius said: That he freed more slaves than Lincoln? Seriously? Yes, Lincoln never owned slaves..relax a bit, it is LITERALLY true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Yes, Lincoln never owned slaves..relax a bit, it is LITERALLY true... It's silly. The guy who issued the EP freed a lot more slaves and didn't fight for the right of one man to own another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 32 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I think you mean Henty Byrd, but i may be wrong. Nope. Robert Byrd. Former Democratic Senator and House Leader. Former KKK Recruiter. The same Robert Byrd who wrote in 1944: "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds." A man who filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964. The same racist piece of schitt whose name is on dozens of buildings, roads, bridges and highway systems throughout West Virginia. But no one on the left WILL EVER try to stomp on that dirt bag because they're too !@#$ stupid and hypocritical to do anything but what they are told to do. So I say again, let me know when people are taking down Robert Byrd's name, and then I'll know you're all serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) I'm beginning to think that it would be an excellent idea to start an initiative to save American history by proactively moving statues & memorials of heroes from both civil war era and the American revolution to museums for safekeeping. Edited July 3, 2018 by Azalin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Better than named after someone who wanted the Union dissolved no? I mean these dudes were fighting to keep slavery legal. I write this as i sit in Richmond VA watching the Bachelorette in Richmond VA! Living in Richmond you should know better. You can make a reasonable argument that slavery was the primary cause of secession. Arguing that these guys went to war to preserve slavery is a stretch at best. Secession =/= war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Foxx said: the Taliban took down monuments too. so do we (in Iraq) Edited July 3, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 9 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: Better than named after someone who wanted the Union dissolved no? I mean these dudes were fighting to keep slavery legal. I write this as i sit in Richmond VA watching the Bachelorette in Richmond VA! Irony thy name is you Barack Obama is a traitor to this country 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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