plenzmd1 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) I live in Richmond VA... https://www.richmond.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/monument-avenue-commission-remove-jefferson-davis-monument-reinterpret-others-honoring/article_22138cfa-7734-5844-8175-93cec52f7d59.html While I agree with taking the monuments down, thought they were just going to recommend signage etc. Interesting this is the only one recommended to come down. This is gunna be a fight. The interesting thing is most folks who live on Monument Ave now probably more of what yall would call 'limousine liberals" ..and want the statues to come down. Will be the older money not gunna like this!!! Edited July 2, 2018 by plenzmd1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 the Taliban took down monuments too. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I live in Charlottesville. We've been through this and continue to be impacted. Leave them alone or you will invite hundreds of lunatics to protest the issue. Monuments are monuments. No support or condemnation need be implied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 What will this solve? This is a ridiculous idea and terrible for the advancement of society. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) "More recently, the Richmond School Board renamed J.E.B. Stuart Elementary school to Barack Obama Elementary last month. Get use to it folks, that will surely be the most frequent renaming of schools, bridges, highways and buildings for years.....or forever. ? Edited July 3, 2018 by I am the egg man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: "More recently, the Richmond School Board renamed J.E.B. Stuart Elementary school to Barack Obama Elementary last month. Get use to it folks, that will surely be the most frequent renaming of schools, bridges, highways and buildings in for years.....maybe forever. ? Barack obama elementary? !@#$ that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: Barack obama elementary? !@#$ that. Better than named after someone who wanted the Union dissolved no? I mean these dudes were fighting to keep slavery legal. I write this as i sit in Richmond VA watching the Bachelorette in Richmond VA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Better than named after someone who wanted the Union dissolved. Yeah, naming things after a President who wanted the U.S. to be relegated to 3rd world nation status is appropriate. ? Edited July 3, 2018 by I am the egg man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Let me know when they erase Robert Byrd's name, and then I'll know they're serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, I am the egg man said: Yeah, naming things after a President who wanted the U.S. to be relegated to 3rd world nation status is appropriate. LOL. I think that's exactly what he said at his inaugural address. I like the idea of putting all these confederate statues in a museum. Especially in heavily black populated regions like Richmond (around 40% of population). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: I think that's exactly what he said at his inaugural address. I'll have to take your word on that. Unlike you I didn't watch his inauguration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 34 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: Better than named after someone who wanted the Union dissolved no? I mean these dudes were fighting to keep slavery legal. I write this as i sit in Richmond VA watching the Bachelorette in Richmond VA! That's not why they fought, and that's not why they fought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Pretending that history doesn't exist is the single most moronic thing the left has advocated (and that's saying something). That's straight-up ISIS bullschiff. Destroy anything you don't agree with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 33 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Let me know when they erase Robert Byrd's name, and then I'll know they're serious. I think you mean Henty Byrd, but i may be wrong. This school is about a mile from house. https://www.richmond.com/news/local/education/henrico/quioccasin-selected-as-new-name-for-byrd-middle-school/article_bc859e10-312f-55a1-91d7-e5fe5e6ecdd1.html Still amazes me the nearest high school is the Rebels.. 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: That's not why they fought, and that's not why they fought. okay.. I am sure you are going to tell me it was about states rights...nothing to do with slavery correct? 7 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Pretending that history doesn't exist is the single most moronic thing the left has advocated (and that's saying something). That's straight-up ISIS bullschiff. Destroy anything you don't agree with. dont have to pretend history does not exist, but to glorify people on the wrong side of history does not make sense to me. Confederate White House, Tredegar Iron Works both document the history of the Civil War and Confederacy in Richmond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: I think you mean Henty Byrd, but i may be wrong. This school is about a mile from house. https://www.richmond.com/news/local/education/henrico/quioccasin-selected-as-new-name-for-byrd-middle-school/article_bc859e10-312f-55a1-91d7-e5fe5e6ecdd1.html Still amazes me the nearest high school is the Rebels.. okay.. I am sure you are going to tell me it was about states rights...nothing to do with slavery correct? dont have to pretend history does not exist, but to glorify people on the wrong side of history does not make sense to me. Confederate White House, Tredegar Iron Works both document the history of the Civil War and Confederacy in Richmond And I suppose you're going to tell me that men who freed their slaves before the war, and who explicitly wrote about the difficult of their choices between national and state loyalties in light of the federal order for the US Army to suppress the states, were simply racists? I mean...you DO know that J.E.B. Stuart freed more slaves than Abraham Lincoln ever did, right? Of course you don't. And I don't blame you for your ignorance...it's how you were taught. The reality of antebellum America was vastly more complex than you've been taught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: I mean...you DO know that J.E.B. Stuart freed more slaves than Abraham Lincoln ever did, right? Okay..fill me in on this one please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just now, plenzmd1 said: Okay..fill me in on this one please He owned two slaves. He freed them in 1859. That's two more than Lincoln freed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: He owned two slaves. He freed them in 1859. That's two more than Lincoln freed. I like that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Foxx said: the Taliban took down monuments too. So did the American army in Iraq. You want the Saddam monuments back up? 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: I like that!!! Too bad it's not true 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: And I suppose you're going to tell me that men who freed their slaves before the war, and who explicitly wrote about the difficult of their choices between national and state loyalties in light of the federal order for the US Army to suppress the states, were simply racists? I mean...you DO know that J.E.B. Stuart freed more slaves than Abraham Lincoln ever did, right? Of course you don't. And I don't blame you for your ignorance...it's how you were taught. The reality of antebellum America was vastly more complex than you've been taught. You are so full of sh it Propaganda "history" is nauseating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 BTW, i also agree that the causes of the Civil were complex..but to deny that slavery was the central issue that was driving division amongst the states I think is intellectually dishonest. States rights and economic uncertainty all stemmed from the slavery issue. 4 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Too bad it's not true I think it is though...it was kinda funny by Tom..and quite literally accurate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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