njbuff Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Eating their own now... because, that's what progressive fascists always do. Angela Crye is one of the most disgusting humans on this planet. She is the most unhinged person over there at the Communist News Network.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 16 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You've been hoodwinked. JM is no great American. He's a seditious, treasonous snake whose legacy will end up in the ash heap of history. jm fiddled for decades while the border burned, all while anointing himself a "maverick" when he was nothing more than an entrenched Washington operative. 1
Juror#8 Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You've been hoodwinked. JM is no great American. He's a seditious, treasonous snake whose legacy will end up in the ash heap of history. Nope. I haven’t been. While many were deferring military service and calling in favors from their rich parents to avoid compulsory military service, McCain served the country admirably. The accounts of his capture and imprisonment notwithstanding, he was a prisoner of war and refused repatriation when it was offered to him. He has spent five decades as a public servant. And since I don’t expect perfection from anyone, including myself, I’ll give the benefit of doubt to a man who risked life and limb over and over again, to ensure that we could operate with the freedoms we now enjoy. For you or anyone to sit behind a computer and both characterize and Monday morning quarterback decisions and a history of service, the extent to which you might only understand in an infinitesimally small vacuum, shows that this nation’s guarantee of even contextless, agenda-driven, and wildly sophomoric speech is equally sacrosanct, and it should make us glad that men like McCain left his family and traveled to foreign lands in order to protect it. So, I’ll renew my comment again, with confidence: John McCain is a good dude and a better American. Edited June 27, 2018 by Juror#8
outsidethebox Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Juror#8 said: Nope. I haven’t been. While many were deferring military service and calling in favors from their rich parents to avoid compulsory military service, McCain served the country admirably. The accounts of his capture and imprisonment notwithstanding, he was a prisoner of war and refused repatriation when it was offered to him. He has spent five decades as a public servant. And since I don’t expect perfection from anyone, including myself, I’ll give the benefit of doubt to a man who risked life and limb over and over again, to ensure that we could operate with the freedoms we now enjoy. For you or anyone to sit behind a computer and both characterize and Monday morning quarterback decisions and a history of service, the extent to which you might only understand in an infinitesimally small vacuum, shows that this nation’s guarantee of even contextless, agenda-driven, and wildly sophomoric speech is equally sacrosanct, and it should make us glad that men like McCain left his family and traveled to foreign lands in order to protect it. So, I’ll renew my comment again, with confidence: John McCain is a good dude and a better American. If you're endorsing him, he definitely is a RINO.
Keukasmallies Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) Juror#8, I agree with your reading of JM, but I must protest your claim announced at the end of your post that preceeds the one above your most recent one.... You may be a big dick, but I'm thinkin' having a big member may only be in the eye of the beholder. Having said that, I have no first hand knowledge, nor do I seek to have in this instance, nor can I provide a link. Edited June 27, 2018 by Keukasmallies
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Juror#8 said: Nope. I haven’t been. While many were deferring military service and calling in favors from their rich parents to avoid compulsory military service, McCain served the country admirably. The accounts of his capture and imprisonment notwithstanding, he was a prisoner of war and refused repatriation when it was offered to him. He has spent five decades as a public servant. And since I don’t expect perfection from anyone, including myself, I’ll give the benefit of doubt to a man who risked life and limb over and over again, to ensure that we could operate with the freedoms we now enjoy. For you or anyone to sit behind a computer and both characterize and Monday morning quarterback decisions and a history of service, the extent to which you might only understand in an infinitesimally small vacuum, shows that this nation’s guarantee of even contextless, agenda-driven, and wildly sophomoric speech is equally sacrosanct, and it should make us glad that men like McCain left his family and traveled to foreign lands in order to protect it. So, I’ll renew my comment again, with confidence: John McCain is a good dude and a better American. John McCain is a traitor to this nation who has, over the course of the last decade and longer, sacrificed American lives by intentionally guiding us into war in order to secure his seat of power and secure a fiefdom for his rule. He is the father of ISIS, and a facilitator of both false flags and actual chemical weapons attacks in Syria towards those ends. He is not a good American. He's the worst kind of American. I'm not asking you to believe me. What's coming will demonstrate exactly that. Now, to address this post: The rhetoric has changed and escalated. We're at the point where violence is being advocated. Once it begins, there is no turning back. Edited June 27, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker 1
3rdnlng Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, Keukasmallies said: Juror#8, I agree with your reading of JM, but I must protest your claim announced at the end of your post that preceeds the one above your most recent one.... You may be a big dick, but I'm thinkin' having a big member may only be in the eye of the beholder. Having said that, I have no first hand knowledge, nor do I seek to have in this instance, nor can I provide a link. Ya never know. He could be wearing 6.0 reading glasses that make a "smart car" look like a stretch limousine.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 39 minutes ago, Juror#8 said: Nope. I haven’t been. While many were deferring military service and calling in favors from their rich parents to avoid compulsory military service, McCain served the country admirably. The accounts of his capture and imprisonment notwithstanding, he was a prisoner of war and refused repatriation when it was offered to him. He has spent five decades as a public servant. And since I don’t expect perfection from anyone, including myself, I’ll give the benefit of doubt to a man who risked life and limb over and over again, to ensure that we could operate with the freedoms we now enjoy. For you or anyone to sit behind a computer and both characterize and Monday morning quarterback decisions and a history of service, the extent to which you might only understand in an infinitesimally small vacuum, shows that this nation’s guarantee of even contextless, agenda-driven, and wildly sophomoric speech is equally sacrosanct, and it should make us glad that men like McCain left his family and traveled to foreign lands in order to protect it. So, I’ll renew my comment again, with confidence: John McCain is a good dude and a better American. You need to do more homework. I'm "sitting behind a computer" and characterizing a person I've studied VERY closely. I've spoken to numerous people who worked with him, and numerous people who worked against him. So much so I can see through the "he's a patriotic prisoner of war" narrative that's designed to make you excuse the actual ill he's done. And yes, he's done ill: * No name aided and abetted an enemy that killed over 3000 Americans on 2001 - and did so not to protect the country but to enrich himself and his "foundations". Running guns into Syria, helping to arm, fund, and train both AQ and ISIS - that kind of public service was never about helping the country, it was always aimed at feathering his own nest and working to weaken this country from the inside out. * No name was also heavily involved in the dossier's creation, distribution and publication. That means he was a part of the palace coup attempt of a legally elected POTUS. That's sedition. ... Then there's the nasty little bit about increasing human trafficking inside Arizona while he runs a foundation that is designed to "combat it". In reality, it does no such thing. I never thought I'd be rooting for cancer... but you need dig deeper on Syd.
Juror#8 Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: John McCain is a traitor to this nation who has, over the course of the last decade and longer, sacrificed American lives by intentionally guiding us into war in order to secure his seat of power and secure a fiefdom for his rule. He is the father of ISIS, and a facilitator of both false flags and actual chemical weapons attacks in Syria towards those ends. He is not a good American. He's the worst kind of American. I'm not asking you to believe me. What's coming will demonstrate exactly that. Now, to address this post: The rhetoric has changed and escalated. We're at the point where violence is being advocated. Once it begins, there is no turning back. Yea, I just don’t agree on John McCain. He is a good dude and a good American for the reasons that I mentioned. I reserve to right to change my opinion if I heard information that shuffled that balance. But to date I haven’t heard that. With that said, that was a very small part of my post, indeed the last sentence. So I’m not sure that disagreement on that point, no matter reasonably held that disagreement is, should continue to deter the discussion.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 *************************************** Just now, Juror#8 said: He is a good dude and a good American for the reasons that I mentioned. The reasons you mentioned are one-sided and cultivated by his PR machine. You're smarter than that.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: *************************************** That's their free and protected speech. Not much we can do about it, other than let them speak. Sucks.
Juror#8 Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: You need to do more homework. I'm "sitting behind a computer" and characterizing a person I've studied VERY closely. I've spoken to numerous people who worked with him, and numerous people who worked against him. So much so I can see through the "he's a patriotic prisoner of war" narrative that's designed to make you excuse the actual ill he's done. And yes, he's done ill: * No name aided and abetted an enemy that killed over 3000 Americans on 2001 - and did so not to protect the country but to enrich himself and his "foundations". Running guns into Syria, helping to arm, fund, and train both AQ and ISIS - that kind of public service was never about helping the country, it was always aimed at feathering his own nest and working to weaken this country from the inside out. * No name was also heavily involved in the dossier's creation, distribution and publication. That means he was a part of the palace coup attempt of a legally elected POTUS. That's sedition. ... Then there's the nasty little bit about increasing human trafficking inside Arizona while he runs a foundation that is designed to "combat it". In reality, it does no such thing. I never thought I'd be rooting for cancer... but you need dig deeper on Syd. Yea, I just don’t agree on John McCain. He is a good dude and a good American for the reasons that I mentioned. I reserve to right to change my opinion if I heard information that shuffled that balance. But to date I haven’t heard that. With that said, that was a very small part of my post, indeed the last sentence. So I’m not sure that disagreement on that point, no matter reasonably held that disagreement is, should continue to deter the discussion. Also, I kept my opinion on the “prisoner of war” angle light. I referenced his public and military service very purposefully. And I didn’t say he was a good politician, or a champion of ethics. But I’m also not saying that he’s not. The context of this discussion was around vitriol as between public figures and how that’s destroyed civil political discourse. McCain was brought up in the context of Trumps comments about his military service It’s cool and all in small doses, but overall the straw man stuff is played out. 1
Deranged Rhino Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, Juror#8 said: I reserve to right to change my opinion if I heard information that shuffled that balance. But to date I haven’t heard that. With that said, that was a very small part of my post, indeed the last sentence. So I’m not sure that disagreement on that point, no matter reasonably held that disagreement is, should continue to deter the discussion. It was a small part and I did not mean to hijack it - but it was said by you (who I consider a smart poster) which led me to believe you just weren't aware of the darkness that is very real and very prominent surrounding Syd. My post wasn't meant to argue or nitpick, just prod you into doing some more digging. 1
Juror#8 Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: It was a small part and I did not mean to hijack it - but it was said by you (who I consider a smart poster) which led me to believe you just weren't aware of the darkness that is very real and very prominent surrounding Syd. My post wasn't meant to argue or nitpick, just prod you into doing some more digging. Thats fair man and you already have me interested. So I will look into that some more. Because I’ve always been a fan of career public servants. Especially those with military stripes. But I’ll also call a spade a spade so if I find that he is an inimical dickbag then that might call for an agonizing reappraisal of the whole scene ... military service notwithstanding, 1
reddogblitz Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: The looming threat of actual justice being doled out, is new to many in the political elite class, and they're preparing their supporters for that eventuality. I'll believe this when I see it. They look out for each other.
row_33 Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I'll believe this when I see it. They look out for each other. nothing will happen to the Clinton toadies, a suicide by three bullets in the back of the head is their only threat
reddogblitz Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 4 hours ago, joesixpack said: I have substantial doubts about the left wanting peace. or the right ...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: or the right ... The right isn't hassling public employees in their private spaces. 1
reddogblitz Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: You've been hoodwinked. JM is no great American. He's a seditious, treasonous snake whose legacy will end up in the ash heap of history. he also never saw another country he didn't want to bomb the peejeebers out of. Keating 5. Stand up guy. How is McCain-Fiengold doing at keeping money out of politics? what he did in VN was amazing. I respect him for that, but that's all. 1
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