3rdnlng Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: by now you don't know I'm Canadian? that's how I can say that Clinton and Obama and Trump were/are good Presidents. I know you're Canadian. That's why you think that Clinton and Obama were good presidents, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: I know you're Canadian. That's why you think that Clinton and Obama were good presidents, eh? they were good Presidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Today's daily cartoon by Pat Byrnes: http://nyer.cm/E7ww9bt ...................... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: People are going to die. People you love. Your family, friends, neighbors. And not just of trauma wounds. They'll die of starvation. They'll die of dysentery. You're talking about bringing a formal end to polite society in favor of unbridled violence against your fellow Americans. You're talking about the interruption of the supply of food, water, and energy. You're talking about the complete end of the domestic economy, with functioning businesses being replaced by roving gangs of looters and mini-anarchist protectorates. Not to mention atrocities perpetrated on innocents by deranged opportunists.... it's not going to be blue versus gray... It'll literally be every man for himself, until the ruthless Mao-like figures rise to rally those desperate for protection to their side. Bottom line: Washington must lead the way when it comes to civility... It'll take the entire legislative branch to get the executive branch to follow suit. 1 hour ago, row_33 said: it's still the best place to live, after Canada. Natural-born scammers. -Turns out Canadian bacon is just ham after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, #34fan said: Not to mention atrocities perpetrated on innocents by deranged opportunists.... it's not going to be blue versus gray... It'll literally be every man for himself, until the ruthless Mao-like figures rise to rally those desperate for protection to their side. Bottom line: Washington must lead the way when it comes to civility... It'll take the entire legislative branch to get the executive branch to follow suit. Disagree with the bolded. WE have to lead the way, in our day to day lives. In our day to day conversations. In our day to day interactions with those who think/act/believe differently than us. We have to STOP looking to others to show us the way. We know the way. We have to be our own saviors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Disagree with the bolded. WE have to lead the way, in our day to day lives. In our day to day conversations. In our day to day interactions with those who think/act/believe differently than us. We have to STOP looking to others to show us the way. We know the way. We have to be our own saviors. I used to think that too... However, the sad fact is that people mimic what works... They also gravitate towards power... If the seat of domestic power in the U.S. treats public civility as something burdensome, and unnecessary, you can bet the masses will follow... Mankind's been trying to bail on civility since the ten commandments, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Just now, #34fan said: I used to think that too... However, the sad fact is that people mimic what works... They also gravitate towards power... If the seat of domestic power in the U.S. treats public civility as something burdensome, and unnecessary, you can bet the masses will follow... Mankind's been trying to bail on civility since the ten commandments, anyway. People are indeed programmed to follow, but it's a cycle that must be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, #34fan said: I used to think that too... However, the sad fact is that people mimic what works... They also gravitate towards power... If the seat of domestic power in the U.S. treats public civility as something burdensome, and unnecessary, you can bet the masses will follow... Mankind's been trying to bail on civility since the ten commandments, anyway. The world would be so much better if we could all just sit down with some coffee and a nice bundt cake and talk it out. Think of the problems we could resolve! 2 hours ago, row_33 said: it's still the best place to live, after Canada. Oh you betcha. Canadians are so darn polite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, joesixpack said: The world would be so much better if we could all just sit down with some coffee and a nice bundt cake and talk it out. Think of the problems we could resolve! Code words? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Code words? Oh, no. Well, maybe. It could be any cake. We just need a bit more sweetness, don't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 28 minutes ago, #34fan said: I used to think that too... However, the sad fact is that people mimic what works... They also gravitate towards power... If the seat of domestic power in the U.S. treats public civility as something burdensome, and unnecessary, you can bet the masses will follow... Mankind's been trying to bail on civility since the ten commandments, anyway. !@#$ you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 14 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: People are indeed programmed to follow, but it's a cycle that must be broken. Difficult, when the short-term rewards of brutality and group-think are so lucrative... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Apparently the prevailing view on the left is that it's fine to be a rude, classless !@#$ to people whose political views differ from yours as long as you accuse them of racism. Evidence of said racism is optional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Rob's House said: Apparently the prevailing view on the left is that it's fine to be a rude, classless !@#$ to people whose political views differ from yours as long as you accuse them of racism. Evidence of said racism is optional. That's racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, Rob's House said: Apparently the prevailing view on the left is that it's fine to be a rude, classless !@#$ to people whose political views differ from yours as long as you accuse them of racism. Evidence of said racism is optional. It started with a comment about half of American being "deplorable", and thus not worth working with or conversing with. This was pushed by Clinton media acolytes in the MSM and Hollywood hard. Then, after that back-fired and he won the election, it escalated to hyperbole about anyone who dared question that deplorable decree as being a Putin sympathizer. This was pushed by the Obama and Clinton media acolytes in the MSM and Hollywood hard. Then, after that didn't take and the evidence of political spying mounted against 44, the rhetoric escalated to anyone daring to support Trump is supporting a Nazi regime, and thus not worth working with or conversing with. This was pushed by the Obama and Clinton media acolytes in the MSM and Hollywood hard. Now we've reached a fever pitch, a gumbo stew of all three hyperbolic and divisive stances - designed to denigrate one side of the political spectrum while giving the other a free pass to commit violence and descend into mob-justice mentality... and the Obama and Clinton media acolytes in the MSM and Hollywood are blaming it on Trump's divisive remarks HARD. They think we're stupid. They think we can't remember as far back as 24 months ago. They're wrong. November won't be kind to the DNC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, DC Tom said: They won't. They think it's more appropriate to harass, intimidate, threaten, and even assault the opposition. You know...same tactics the Nazis used. And, incidentally, Donald Trump.. Against the media. Against political protesters. Against decency itself. Please clarify who you mean by they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, #34fan said: And, incidentally, Donald Trump.. Against the media. Against political protesters. Against decency itself. Please clarify who you mean by they. The lot of these people, for starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It started with a comment about half of American being "deplorable", and thus not worth working with or conversing with. This was pushed by Clinton media acolytes in the MSM and Hollywood hard. Then, after that back-fired and he won the election, it escalated to hyperbole about anyone who dared question that deplorable decree as being a Putin sympathizer. This was pushed by the Obama and Clinton media acolytes in the MSM and Hollywood hard. Then, after that didn't take and the evidence of political spying mounted against 44, the rhetoric escalated to anyone daring to support Trump is supporting a Nazi regime, and thus not worth working with or conversing with. This was pushed by the Obama and Clinton media acolytes in the MSM and Hollywood hard. Now we've reached a fever pitch, a gumbo stew of all three hyperbolic and divisive stances - designed to denigrate one side of the political spectrum while giving the other a free pass to commit violence and descend into mob-justice mentality... and the Obama and Clinton media acolytes in the MSM and Hollywood are blaming it on Trump's divisive remarks HARD. They think we're stupid. They think we can't remember as far back as 24 months ago. They're wrong. November won't be kind to the DNC. Well, WE can remember, but their supporters have short memories. Every time one of their phony scandals falls apart they're on to the next without giving it a second thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, #34fan said: And, incidentally, Donald Trump.. Against the media. Against political protesters. Against decency itself. Please clarify who you mean by they. Trump is a lightning rod and a counter puncher. That's why and how he won. The attacks against him and his supporters were every bit as ugly, if not uglier, by the opposing side (which controls 90% of the media and messaging industries) since he started winning primaries. What you and others call an attack on "decency itself" is viewed by many more as counter punching against a tilted and incredibly vile opposition. Should a President be better than that and rise above? It's certainly something many would like to see. But would it matter if the other side is committed to destroying him with lie after lie after lie? Or is it better to have a guy who's going to call it how it is, break down the walls of everyone's echo chambers, and expose the machine to sunlight? There's pros and cons to both sides of that plan. And while Trump certainly is not blameless, putting this all at his feet is intellectually dishonest. Just now, Rob's House said: Well, WE can remember, but their supporters have short memories. Every time one of their phony scandals falls apart they're on to the next without giving it a second thought. That's why the crimes committed, and there were VERY serious crime committed, can't just be exposed - but the criminals must be punished and made examples of so that this never happens again. I do believe that's still the plan. The slow and deliberate roll out of evidence (which began in December of '17) has proven that to me time and time again. Big fish are going to fry, they must. Otherwise what you said will continue to be true and the cycle will go on unbroken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 ************************** These are very dangerous situations - by design. All it takes is one nutter to feel threatened, or one nutter to take action, and we're in a whole new world. And this is BEING ENCOURAGED by politicians in office today. Vote them out. They do not have anyone but their own best interests in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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