Gray Beard Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/20/2018 at 3:26 PM, Canadian Bills Fan said: Once... for not saying "thank you" Expand How much time would they give you for not saying “sorry”?
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/20/2018 at 11:41 PM, WhoTom said: I wasn't technically arrested, but my then-girlfriend (now wife) and I were "detained" at the Canadian border while we were en route to a Pink Floyd show in Toronto. You can probably guess the reason. Cost me $43 ($50 Canadian). We still made it to the show on time. Expand Does that include the price of the stuff that was confiscated? Lol.
WhoTom Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 3:41 PM, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Does that include the price of the stuff that was confiscated? Lol. Expand Funny thing about that - they found a small stash in the car, which prompted them to bring us in for a strip search. I had a pipe on me and my GF had 2 Js. They confiscated that. Then they asked, "Do you have $50 between the two of you?" I asked, "Why?" He responded, "That's the fine. Pay it and you can leave." I asked (joking), "Do you take Visa?" He replied, "Yes." So I paid the fine with plastic. After they released us, I noticed that the stuff they found in the car was still sitting on the front seat. I quickly stashed it under the seat and we drove away. Fine: $50 ($43 American) Pipe: $10 2 Js: $2 Interesting story to tell: Priceless. Visa: It's everywhere you need to pay a fine. 1
The Real Buffalo Joe Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 4:12 PM, WhoTom said: Funny thing about that - they found a small stash in the car, which prompted them to bring us in for a strip search. I had a pipe on me and my GF had 2 Js. They confiscated that. Then they asked, "Do you have $50 between the two of you?" I asked, "Why?" He responded, "That's the fine. Pay it and you can leave." I asked (joking), "Do you take Visa?" He replied, "Yes." So I paid the fine with plastic. After they released us, I noticed that the stuff they found in the car was still sitting on the front seat. I quickly stashed it under the seat and we drove away. Fine: $50 ($43 American) Pipe: $10 2 Js: $2 Interesting story to tell: Priceless. Visa: It's everywhere you need to pay a fine. Expand Nice. And to think if that had happened today, you'd be free do to now.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 7:31 PM, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Nice. And to think if that had happened today, you'd be free do to now. Expand Yeah... Free to do it.. Until they are driving stoned and kill someone. My have times changed. But we are "freer."
WhoTom Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) On 6/21/2018 at 9:24 PM, ExiledInIllinois said: Until they are driving stoned and kill someone. Expand The stash was for pre-show tailgating, not while driving. How is that any different than alcohol? Edited June 21, 2018 by WhoTom
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 9:31 PM, WhoTom said: The stash was for pre-show tailgating, not while driving. How is that any different than alcohol? Expand Stays in system longer. Harder to detect via sobriety field test, especially years ago. Not that I am against legalization, just as alcohol has its set of problems, so does weed... Especially determining easily in the field if a driver is impaired. Like the .08 breath test limit... It is what it is.
Gray Beard Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 9:40 PM, ExiledInIllinois said: Stays in system longer. Harder to detect via sobriety field test, especially years ago. Not that I am against legalization, just as alcohol has its set of problems, so does weed... Especially determining easily in the field if a driver is impaired. Like the .08 breath test limit... It is what it is. Expand I’ve been wondering about that. How does driving while impaired work with weed? Is it up to the cop to say he could smell it and the driver’s eyes are red? Does the cop have the driver get out and walk around? Is it all captured on video as evidence? People can’t be expected to have a blood test on the spot, and that would likely be inconclusive anyway. Drivers using weed may have slower reflexes and may be less observant. Maybe not as dangerous as drivers using alcohol, but impairment is a concern. I’m all for legalization, but I just don’t know anything about the legality of driving with it fresh in your system.
ExiledInIllinois Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 9:50 PM, Gray Beard said: I’ve been wondering about that. How does driving while impaired work with weed? Is it up to the cop to say he could smell it and the driver’s eyes are red? Does the cop have the driver get out and walk around? Is it all captured on video as evidence? People can’t be expected to have a blood test on the spot, and that would likely be inconclusive anyway. Drivers using weed may have slower reflexes and may be less observant. Maybe not as dangerous as drivers using alcohol, but impairment is a concern. I’m all for legalization, but I just don’t know anything about the legality of driving with it fresh in your system. Expand Yep. With alcohol, there is the magic .08 to blow. Gives a hard number with machine that can hold up in court. I guess, they have to use field sobriety with weed. Probably easier to beat??? I too wonder how they address these issues
WhoTom Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 10:26 PM, ExiledInIllinois said: Yep. With alcohol, there is the magic .08 to blow. Gives a hard number with machine that can hold up in court. I guess, they have to use field sobriety with weed. Probably easier to beat??? I too wonder how they address these issues Expand Coordination & response tests would make the most sense. Walk a straight line, read something out loud that requires a bit of concentration, etc. I know that leaves a lot of room for error on the part of the officer, but the arbitrary 0.08 doesn't make much sense either. Is there that big of a difference in driving ability between 0.07 and 0.08? To reduce the chance of officer error (or bias, for that matter), the tests should be video recorded and admissible in court.
rockpile Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 (edited) On 6/21/2018 at 11:46 PM, WhoTom said: Coordination & response tests would make the most sense. Walk a straight line, read something out loud that requires a bit of concentration, etc. I know that leaves a lot of room for error on the part of the officer, but the arbitrary 0.08 doesn't make much sense either. Is there that big of a difference in driving ability between 0.07 and 0.08? To reduce the chance of officer error (or bias, for that matter), the tests should be video recorded and admissible in court. Expand With MS, I have horrible balance and an uneven gait. I often wondered how they would handle a physical if pot was legal. I do not worry about a sobriety test because I do not drive impaired. Period. Earlier in my life I deserved a DWI arrest a couple times. One time when I was an under aged drunk and a friend picked me up in a car I found out was stolen, after I got in! I got dropped off ASAP and am lucky not to be "grand theft auto". He was lucky he did not get caught. I had to learn to be careful who I hung out with and eventually how to grow up and change my own behaviors. Edited June 23, 2018 by rockpile clarification
Gugny Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 2:01 PM, rockpile said: With MS, I have horrible balance and an uneven gait. I often wondered how they would handle a physical if pot was legal. I do not worry about a sobriety test because I do not drive impaired. Period. Earlier in my life I deserved a DWI arrest a couple times. One time when I was an under aged drunk and a friend picked me up in a car I found out was stolen, after I got in! I got dropped off ASAP and am lucky not to be "grand theft auto". He was lucky he did not get caught. I had to learn to be careful who I hung out with and eventually how to grow up and change my own behaviors. Expand My goal for this is by 50.
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted June 23, 2018 Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 10:26 PM, ExiledInIllinois said: Yep. With alcohol, there is the magic .08 to blow. Gives a hard number with machine that can hold up in court. I guess, they have to use field sobriety with weed. Probably easier to beat??? I too wonder how they address these issues Expand Driving 5 m.p.h. in a 50 with an open 5 gallon pail of sugar wafers on the passenger seat is the new standard for DW-THC...
Greybeard Posted June 24, 2018 Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/18/2018 at 7:40 PM, eball said: I once shot a man in Reno, just to watch him die. Expand Did you flip a coin and let him call heads or tails?
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