Favorite Beatles Album

[SinceThe70s]

1 hour ago, Gugny said:

 

Great point and question.

 

I cringe to think what the next Zeppelin album would have sounded like after In Through the Out Door.

 

Or the next Police album after Synchronicity.

 

Look at the crap that U2 and Rush pumped out by staying in the game too long (sorry, Jay).  I loved U2 up to Joshua Tree and Rush up to Moving Pictures.

 

The Beatles hung up their cleats at the perfect time.  They made their mark and they went out on top - much like the Police.  Ironically, when the Police played Shea Stadium, that's when Sting knew it was time.  They'd reached the pinnacle (a bar set by the Beatles) and he knew Synchronicity was their last hurrah.  

 

100% on Rush. I'd add Rattle and Hum for U2.

[Buftex]

14 hours ago, row_33 said:

 

Yup. 

 

Macca's perfect leaven-like fit in harmony when his pals take the lead on a song is something that cannot be duplicated.

 

and Keith's screech in background vocals is cherished, as is Jerry Garcia's voice

 

 

I've always thought Richards awkward harmony vocals were one of the most under-appreciated aspects of the Stones best stuff.

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

13 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Great point and question.

 

I cringe to think what the next Zeppelin album would have sounded like after In Through the Out Door.

 

Or the next Police album after Synchronicity.

 

Look at the crap that U2 and Rush pumped out by staying in the game too long (sorry, Jay).  I loved U2 up to Joshua Tree and Rush up to Moving Pictures.

 

The Beatles hung up their cleats at the perfect time.  They made their mark and they went out on top - much like the Police.  Ironically, when the Police played Shea Stadium, that's when Sting knew it was time.  They'd reached the pinnacle (a bar set by the Beatles) and he knew Synchronicity was their last hurrah.  

Honestly, as much as I love the Stones, around the late 70s, early 80s, basically after Some Girls, they became a parody of themselves. I don't hate their later stuff. But it kind of feels like they said "Well, this is what sells. This is what the Rolling Stones sound like." Then stopped experimenting or trying anything new. Exception is their most recent album. It was all blues covers, and some songs you barely know it's them on some tracks. Sounds like something straight out of Chess Records.

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

13 hours ago, Gugny said:

Look at the crap that U2 and Rush pumped out by staying in the game too long (sorry, Jay).  I loved U2 up to Joshua Tree and Rush up to Moving Pictures.

Dude you gotta give a fresh listen to some post-MP Rush.  Grace Under Pressure and Power Windows were very good (albeit different from what came before).  Some of it I agree is way below par (Hold Your Fire, Presto, Roll The Bones was the worst of it) but once they rediscovered the fact that they were a power trio things started looking up again.  They worked on it for pieces of Counterparts and Test For Echo (B side of each was filler).  Remastered version of Vapor Trails and Snakes and Arrows are both quite good.

[row_33]

28 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Honestly, as much as I love the Stones, around the late 70s, early 80s, basically after Some Girls, they became a parody of themselves. I don't hate their later stuff. But it kind of feels like they said "Well, this is what sells. This is what the Rolling Stones sound like." Then stopped experimenting or trying anything new. Exception is their most recent album. It was all blues covers, and some songs you barely know it's them on some tracks. Sounds like something straight out of Chess Records.

 

i don't think any serious Stones fans of  the Jones and then Taylor years is going to disagree with you.

 

 

i love Goats Head Soup and that's kind of being "out there", Exile is the last album fans really like

 

kind of like enjoying Dylan's Self Portrait...

 

[T&C]

1 hour ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Honestly, as much as I love the Stones, around the late 70s, early 80s, basically after Some Girls, they became a parody of themselves. I don't hate their later stuff. But it kind of feels like they said "Well, this is what sells. This is what the Rolling Stones sound like." Then stopped experimenting or trying anything new. Exception is their most recent album. It was all blues covers, and some songs you barely know it's them on some tracks. Sounds like something straight out of Chess Records.

Same here, after Some Girls I couldn't listen any more so that would be the line for me too.

 

Another band that comes directly to mind is Genesis. After Gabriel left (if you are going to head out make it a masterpiece, the Lamb is just that) they should have changed the name to "The group formerly known as Genesis" or, the Phil Collins Pop Machine. I can handle A trick of the tail and wind and wuthering because it was mostly work that had already been written and sort of flowed in the same vein, but after that, yuck.

[Rico]

1 hour ago, row_33 said:

 

i don't think any serious Stones fans of  the Jones and then Taylor years is going to disagree with you.

 

 

i love Goats Head Soup and that's kind of being "out there", Exile is the last album fans really like

 

kind of like enjoying Dylan's Self Portrait...

 

I put more weight on the live shows, and for me, they jumped the shark after 1982, although I didn’t know it until the 1st CNE show in 1989, wtf happened?!?  I did like Undercover when it came out though, was appalled by Dirty Work, and was disgusted by Steel Wheels.

[row_33]

13 minutes ago, Rico said:

I put more weight on the live shows, and for me, they jumped the shark after 1982, although I didn’t know it until the 1st CNE show in 1989, wtf happened?!?  I did like Undercover when it came out though, was appalled by Dirty Work, and was disgusted by Steel Wheels.

 

Tattoo You came out my Jr high school year and it was ubiquitous, so I went along with it.

 

Actually i really like Black and Blue also.....

 

 

 

 

 

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

5 minutes ago, Rico said:

I put more weight on the live shows, and for me, they jumped the shark after 1982, although I didn’t know it until the 1st CNE show in 1989, wtf happened?!?  I did like Undercover when it came out though, was appalled by Dirty Work, and was disgusted by Steel Wheels.

Too young to remember personally. But from what I've read, around that time it stopped being The Rolling Stones as a whole band, and started becoming The Mick Jagger Show.

[Rico]

Just now, row_33 said:

 

Tattoo You came out my Jr high school year and it was ubiquitous, so I went along with it.

 

Actually i really like Black and Blue also.....

 

 

 

 

 

I would never say Black and Blue is their best, but for many years now, it has been my fav.

[row_33]

9 minutes ago, Rico said:

I would never say Black and Blue is their best, but for many years now, it has been my fav.

 

a great audition album, fine lead work on most songs.

 

 

[Rico]

1 minute ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Too young to remember personally. But from what I've read, around that time it stopped being The Rolling Stones as a whole band, and started becoming The Mick Jagger Show.

Vegas revue, the blueprint being Mick’s Far East solo tour right before the reunion. Songs played to sound just like the studio versions, nice and slick. Chuck Leavell on lead plink turned way up.Shite back-up singers and full horn section added. And then there’s Matt Clifford. Let me tell you, it was a long drive home from Toronto that night.   

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

Emotional Rescue and Tattoo You are good enough albums. But they weren't anything groundbreaking or special. They felt very formulaic and didn't have "heart" for lack of a better term. 

[row_33]

8 minutes ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Emotional Rescue and Tattoo You are good enough albums. But they weren't anything groundbreaking or special. They felt very formulaic and didn't have "heart" for lack of a better term. 

 

Jones and Taylor and acid (and other useful substances) were not around any more for inspiration to the next level.

 

 

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

Just now, Rico said:

Vegas revue, the blueprint being Mick’s Far East solo tour right before the reunion. Songs played to sound just like the studio versions, nice and slick. Chuck Leavell on lead plink turned way up.Shite back-up singers and full horn section added. And then there’s Matt Clifford. Let me tell you, it was a long drive home from Toronto that night.   

Accoring to Keith's autobiography, and I'm paraphrasing. He hired a "Keef lookalike" and some cheap labor Rolling Stone fill ins. Basically thinking he can do a Stones show, without the Stones, and pocket more cash by paying his band union minimum. 

[Rico]

4 minutes ago, row_33 said:

 

a great audition album, fine lead work on most songs.

 

 

I also think it’s their best sounding album, love to crank it loud. It came out my junior year in high school, so that helps too.

1 minute ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Accoring to Keith's autobiography, and I'm paraphrasing. He hired a "Keef lookalike" and some cheap labor Rolling Stone fill ins. Basically thinking he can do a Stones show, without the Stones, and pocket more cash by paying his band union minimum. 

Well he did have Joe Satriani...I think that’s Keef talking BS again. Bernard Fowler and pre-blimp Lisa Fischer on back-up vocals were more of a problem.

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

45 minutes ago, Rico said:

IWell he did have Joe Satriani...I think that’s Keef talking BS again. Bernard Fowler and pre-blimp Lisa Fischer on back-up vocals were more of a problem.

He conveniently left that part out of the book. Weird. Must have decided to cut that name out to save paper and make the book shorter.

[row_33]

good book though, a lot of it read as I like to imagine Keith would tell it

 

 

Edited June 20, 2018 by row_33

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

2 hours ago, row_33 said:

good book though, a lot of it read as I like to imagine Keith would tell it

 

 

The audiobook is read by Johnny Depp, who modeled Jack Sparrow after Keith. But unfortunately doesn't do it in that accent.

[Rico]

4 hours ago, row_33 said:

good book though, a lot of it read as I like to imagine Keith would tell it

 

 

I hate to say it, and I know it's not right, but Keith jumped the shark for me when he cleaned up, lost the glare, and started smiling all the time. Pre-clean-up Keith would never agreed to go Vegas with Mick just to get the band back on the road, and he sure as hell would've never written a #$%^ing book. I've read it, some good stories but a lot of BS.