GoodHands15 Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Man you are really working on this years “worst QB analysis” poster. Not being able to effectively throw an out takes away about 30% of the field. If you can’t understand the problem with that, then you should just never post about a QB again. By the way, NP is the only Bills QB to turn the ball over this preseason, and he threw a pick 6 on an out to a guy who won’t even be on a roster in 2 weeks on his first pass Sunday...but it was dropped because that guys sucks. NPs TD was another bad throw that almost cost the Bills a TD...but Nick broke a tackle to save the TD. He was so open on broken coverage that my Mom could have thrown that TD and nick still walk in untouched. But he threw it slow and behind Nick so he had to wait for it allowing the defender that was a mile away close on him. But again, the crappy defender who likely will never play a regular season snap this year couldn’t make the play as Nick broke the tackle. You are literally approaching Dog14787 status right now with your romantic crush on NP. My favorite non sense from you is your complete lack of understanding how much it matters he can’t throw outside well enough at the NFL level. Then again, maybe my actual favorite nonsense is how you over exaggerate the FIRST DRIVE of the first NFL preseason against a vanilla D no QB will ever see in a regular season game ever. Then you grossly over exaggerate Josh Allen’s first NFL action in his whole career to be negative while also ignoring all real factors that played into that comp %. I could keep pointing your totally biased analysis aimed at propping up NP and down grading Allen, but this would be about 25 paragraphs long, so I will just stop right here. And I have nothing against NP, but I am being realistic about what he has shown rather than trying to score a date and have a baby with him like some people here. ^This. Frosty ropes outside the numbers. All I want for Christmas. Go Bills.
Warcodered Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Wily Dog said: That was the plan before the game . McCarron with the ones. Allen with the two's and Peterman with the three's. McCarron failed , Allen did great and Peterman fulfilled what McD wanted from him. so what"s the beef? I didn't agree that the reason for the lineup on game 2 was that Peterman was number 1 and they wanted to see if he elevated the 3s. I thought it more likely he was closely rated with AJ and it was AJ's turn in game 2. Also since they wanted to see Allen with better players he ended up with 2s leaving the 3s to Peterman. Is that clear enough.
BullBuchanan Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Here's a great article on the subject from 15 years ago from Paul Hackett's perspective. tl;dr you design your offense around what you have: https://www.newsday.com/sports/powerful-arm-not-required-touch-poise-leadership-more-important-for-qb-1.436308
Prickly Pete Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said: Here's a great article on the subject from 15 years ago from Paul Hackett's perspective. tl;dr you design your offense around what you have: https://www.newsday.com/sports/powerful-arm-not-required-touch-poise-leadership-more-important-for-qb-1.436308 The Bills have Josh Allen. That is who they need to start designing their offense around, NOW. Not Peterman the "mudder", whose game is best suited to a slow track or snow blizzards.
BullBuchanan Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, OJ Tom said: The Bills have Josh Allen. That is who they need to start designing their offense around, NOW. Not Peterman the "mudder", whose game is best suited to a slow track or snow blizzards. I understand that it might seem inconceivable that they could do two things at the same time, but I think they're up to the challenge. They don't throw the playbook out depending on the QB, the just change the frequency of plays.
Prickly Pete Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Just now, BullBuchanan said: I understand that it might seem inconceivable that they could do two things at the same time, but I think they're up to the challenge. They don't throw the playbook out depending on the QB, the just change the frequency of plays. It's not inconceivable, just ill-advised, and a waste of precious time. Edited August 20, 2018 by OJ Tom
Boca BIlls Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, BullBuchanan said: I understand that it might seem inconceivable that they could do two things at the same time, but I think they're up to the challenge. They don't throw the playbook out depending on the QB, the just change the frequency of plays. Josh Allen is the only guy who they need to have the playbook designed around.... don't worry about the backup Peterman. 1
Patrick Duffy Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: So you don't think that 100 out of 100 NFL quarterbacks would have looked at that defense Peterman was faced with, saw a safety and two defenders on two of our guys to the left, and saw only three defenders and no safety on our three receivers to the right, and wouldn't have immediately looked right, you know, where there were three single coverage guys, and seen one of them immediately rush, leaving his man wide open five yards down the field? That was some brilliant recognition?!! Watch the damn play. It's Pop Warner league stuff. You guys are embarrassing yourselves. LOl, I'm not embarrassing myself, you are the one saying it wasn't recognition to do that. I'm simply pointing out that, that pretty much defines the word recognize. Yes I agree a majority of QB's should and probably could make that play, but it still, whether you want to believe it or not, took "recognition" to take advantage of the broken play. Edited August 20, 2018 by Patrick_Duffy
Beast Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 If our 7th overall pick can’t beat out last years 5th rounder.....well, there is an issue. No worries. Allen is the man. He should be the starter.
SoTier Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 On 8/18/2018 at 8:25 AM, 26CornerBlitz said: The QB decision will not be made based on the status of the OL per one Brandon Beane. Maybe Beane should ask AJ McCarron if "the status of the OL" will influence who will start at QB for the Bills. 1
26CornerBlitz Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, SoTier said: Maybe Beane should ask AJ McCarron if "the status of the OL" will influence who will start at QB for the Bills. Maybe McCarron shouldn't hold the ball so long and learn pocket mobility skills. 1
BurpleBull Posted August 20, 2018 Author Posted August 20, 2018 13 hours ago, Kelly the Dog said: That's ridiculous. Stats tell only a small part of the story. People are not going crazy over Peterman's stats because of the kinds of throws he made and didn't make. If he threw some balls down the field or showed he could throw a deep out or deep dig then they would be giving him credit because he would have been showing things he hadn't shown before. We know he can do what he has been doing the two games. That's what's he's very good at. It's the stuff that a lot of fans think he hasn't shown or cannot do that he hasn't thrown. If all Allen has done is shown one thing, even if it was a deep ball there would be criticism of him. Like their was Tyrod. But Allen has already shown he can throw left, right or over the middle. Short, medium and long. Rolling left, right or in the pocket. He's shown it all. Nate has shown much less. He's done the same thing a bunch of times, stuff we knew he could do. I didn't answer it because it makes no difference and has nothing to do with anything. It would have been a dumb play before, during or after the lead change. It forced a punt. And it was only his third or fourth worse mistake. Peterman didn't face a 3rd and 6 play where he passed short of the sticks. This along with other things you've posted, highlights your general disregard for accuracy when it pertains to Peterman and your obvious bias against him.
CommonCents Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Maybe McCarron shouldn't hold the ball so long and learn pocket mobility skills. Got that right. I’d rather watch Peterman than AJ. AJM’s decision making is as slow as Redmond’s snaps.
prissythecat Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, BurpleBull said: Peterman didn't face a 3rd and 6 play where he passed short of the sticks. This along with other things you've posted, highlights your general disregard for accuracy when it pertains to Peterman and your obvious bias against him. I'm curious . If an admin were to lookup your ip address, would it match the one for BullBuchanan? I believe another poster has noticed the odd similarity in the extreme position in regard to Peterman as well as the handles. 1
BurpleBull Posted August 20, 2018 Author Posted August 20, 2018 1 hour ago, prissythecat said: I'm curious . If an admin were to lookup your ip address, would it match the one for BullBuchanan? I believe another poster has noticed the odd similarity in the extreme position in regard to Peterman as well as the handles. Ridiculous.
Kelly the Dog Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 3 hours ago, BurpleBull said: Peterman didn't face a 3rd and 6 play where he passed short of the sticks. This along with other things you've posted, highlights your general disregard for accuracy when it pertains to Peterman and your obvious bias against him. Officially I just looked it up and it was third and eight and he threw for four yards. Same thing. He immediately threw a short pass to a covered OLeary that had no chance of being a first down. It was a mistake. One of several.
transplantbillsfan Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Bob Dylan said it best... "The times they are a chaaaaaaanngiiiinnnn" 1
prissythecat Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, BurpleBull said: Ridiculous. This wasn't the text in your original response since I believe you originally asked why someone would do an ip address lookup. I guess you googled what it meant and decided to delete your original post so you wouldn't look as clueless. Just admit that you and BullBuchanan are one and the same =) Edited August 20, 2018 by prissythecat
ricojes Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) I recorded the last practice game as I was not going to waste 3+ hours watching practice. My DVR has a jump forward function set for 30 seconds. When a play is over and I hit that button it's pretty much the start of the next play, unless it's a hurry up or something. Very quick and easy way to watch most of the practice. This does not work for Peterman, he get's the play in and the players out of the huddle and the ball snapped so quickly, I would have to adjust it to 20 seconds at most. This gives extra time to scan the field and change the play if needed or snap it quickly to catch players out of position. The one thing that frustrated me with Terod is the clock management, even in a hurry up offense they were so close the delay of games on a regular basis. Edited August 20, 2018 by ricojes
Kelly the Dog Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, ricojes said: I recorded the last practice game as I was not going to waste 3+ hours watching practice. My DVR has a jump forward function set for 30 seconds. When a play is over and I hit that button it's pretty much the start of the next play, unless it's a hurry up or something. Very quick and easy way to watch most of the practice. This does not work for Peterman, he get's the play in and the players out of the huddle and the ball snapped so quickly, I would have to adjust it to 20 seconds. This gives extra time to scan the field and change the play if needed or snap it quickly to catch players out of position. The one thing that frustrated me with Terod is the clock management, even in a hurry up offense they were so close the delay of games on a regular basis. That's because they only have two plays they call with Peterman. Eight-yard curl left and eight-yard curl right. They don't even need to huddle.
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