/dev/null Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 http://thehill.com/policy/finance/302719-social-security-insolvent-by-2033 Nevermind, lets talk about Stormy Daniels instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 GOP holds both houses of Congress and the WH....have at it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, baskin said: GOP holds both houses of Congress and the WH....have at it... This never was an issue until January, 2017? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) Quote The trust fund that pays disability benefits through Social Security is headed for insolvency in 2016 and will only be able to pay out 80 percent of benefits after that date, the trustees found. according to that article, the apocalypse should have started 2 years ago. ...this was written in 2013 Edited June 11, 2018 by unbillievable 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 hour ago, unbillievable said: according to that article, the apocalypse should have started 2 years ago. ...this was written in 2013 Praise be Obama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 (edited) Gee....maybe if more people worked there be more contributing to S.S. ? Gee....maybe if the young healthy being handed S.S.worked instead would help S.S. ? But according to the Left, that is not in Trumps mindset for bringing jobs back to this country. Edited June 11, 2018 by Ifartalot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, baskin said: GOP holds both houses of Congress and the WH....have at it... That's not a solution. That's not even an admission that we have a problem. It's political hackery implying that conservative should suffer the political consequences of cleaning up yet another massive economic and social problem caused by progressives. You don't care about the people who are going to suffer. You don't care about the future children of this nation born under the yoke of a tax burden assessed to them which they had no say in creating. You actually relish the idea of both, because it has the potential to harm conservatives at the ballot box. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ifartalot said: Gee....maybe if more people worked there be more contributing to S.S. ? Gee....maybe if the young healthy being handed S.S.worked instead would help S.S. ? But according to the Left, that is not in Trumps mindset for bringing jobs back to this country. More immigration would help. More younger people working, helping economy expand, more taxes paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: That's not a solution. That's not even an admission that we have a problem. It's political hackery implying that conservative should suffer the political consequences of cleaning up yet another massive economic and social problem caused by progressives. You don't care about the people who are going to suffer. You don't care about the future children of this nation born under the yoke of a tax burden assessed to them which they had no say in creating. You actually relish the idea of both, because it has the potential to harm conservatives at the ballot box. Nice rant.....now check the records of deficits under GOP and Dem Potus....BTW...GOP just crushed the deficit with tax bill and spending package...Yes I hope phony conservatives get crushed...I am socially progessive and fiscally concervative...GOP/Cons are neither 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Liberals have a great strategy towards pushing Socialism. Democrats create expensive programs and raise taxes, calling everyone to contribute their "fair share". The GOP then tries to undo the damage by lowering taxes and de-funding programs, but... ...but the Democrats whine about killing grandma and the kids. The Tax cuts are approved (because we don't want to pay), while the entitlements stay, (because we all want free stuff). Each generation, the country moves further to the left, until politicians like Trump, are considered conservatives, while Bernie starts to sound reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, baskin said: Nice rant.....now check the records of deficits under GOP and Dem Potus....BTW...GOP just crushed the deficit with tax bill and spending package...Yes I hope phony conservatives get crushed...I am socially progessive and fiscally concervative...GOP/Cons are neither And a poor speller to boot. Offhand, I'd venture to think that under Obama the deficits were higher since he doubled the national debt. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Socially progressive = wants free stuff Fiscally conservative = doesn't want to pay taxes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 31 minutes ago, Tiberius said: More immigration would help. More younger people working, helping economy expand, more taxes paid. Less of NAFTA and TTP would help more. Unskilled Immigrants flocking here is only burdening the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 2 hours ago, snafu said: This never was an issue until January, 2017? it's always an old chestnut to pull out of the fire on a slow newsday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: And a poor speller to boot. Offhand, I'd venture to think that under Obama the deficits were higher since he doubled the national debt. My understanding is that the deficit accelerated under Obama's first term due to bailouts etc necessitated by the recession, which was a Bush legacy( if we want to ascribe economic well being to policies of the current administration..especially within 24 months). Trump and GOP have now doubled the deficit in one fell swoop, betting on higher tax revenues 8 years out to cover the shortfall. Tough bet to take. And I say that as a registered Republican. Last balanced budget/surplus was 1998-2001, during Bill Clintons 2nd term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ifartalot said: Less of NAFTA and TTP would help more. Unskilled Immigrants flocking here is only burdening the U.S. Ignorance like this hurts us all, the economy, ss and medicare. Free trade increases the bounty, as does immigration. Trump's nonsense makes Trump wealthier and others poorer, sort of like Trump University. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: My understanding is that the deficit accelerated under Obama's first term due to bailouts etc necessitated by the recession, which was a Bush legacy( if we want to ascribe economic well being to policies of the current administration..especially within 24 months). Trump and GOP have now doubled the deficit in one fell swoop, betting on higher tax revenues 8 years out to cover the shortfall. Tough bet to take. And I say that as a registered Republican. Last balanced budget/surplus was 1998-2001, during Bill Clintons 2nd term. The economy's collapse was actually caused by the CRA created under Carter and expanded by Clinton. There obviously were other factors but without the CRA they never would have happened. Trump's policies are expanding the economy with the expectations that revenue will increase. We'll see. 6 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ignorance like this hurts us all, the economy, ss and medicare. Free trade increases the bounty, as does immigration. Trump's nonsense makes Trump wealthier and others poorer, sort of like Trump University. Free trade is great, but everyone has to adhere to it if it is going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: . Last balanced budget/surplus was 1998-2001, during Bill Clintons 2nd term. i believe that as much as I believe the Jays are winning the world series this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Ignorance like this hurts us all, the economy, ss and medicare. Free trade increases the bounty, as does immigration. Trump's nonsense makes Trump wealthier and others poorer, sort of like Trump University. 1 You sure about this? I am fairly certain Trump just said in the G-7.."yall dont want tariffs..I am good with that. Let's remove all tariffs and barriers to trade" and nothing but crickets back. I will be the absolute first to stand up and tell you I do not understand or know every trade regulation in place and how it affects differebt industrie and what the macro effect might be ..but I am fairly certain no else on this board does either. But i am not going to just dismiss what Trump is doing in trade just cause it is Trump 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: The economy's collapse was actually caused by the CRA created under Carter and expanded by Clinton. There obviously were other factors but without the CRA they never would have happened. Trump's policies are expanding the economy with the expectations that revenue will increase. We'll see. Let's say that is so...we had 8 years under Reagan, 4 under Bush 1 and 8 under Bush 2 to change the policy/act. So to be clear, I think President's have very little impact on the economy..for instance, I don't ascribe the budget surplus to Clinton and his policies. That being said, I do believe what has impacts are deficits and money policy..and Trump scares me on the deficit side. I do not t hink I am alone there...as matkets tend to look forward 1 year plus...and we be going sideways for the last 6 months. 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: i believe that as much as I believe the Jays are winning the world series this year facts be facts...not saying it was CAUSE of Clinton..but it is a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said: You sure about this? I am fairly certain Trump just said in the G-7.."yall dont want tariffs..I am good with that. Let's remove all tariffs and barriers to trade" and nothing but crickets back. I will be the absolute first to stand up and tell you I do not understand or know every trade regulation in place and how it affects differebt industrie and what the macro effect might be ..but I am fairly certain no else on this board does either. But i am not going to just dismiss what Trump is doing in trade just cause it is Trump Let's say that is so...we had 8 years under Reagan, 4 under Bush 1 and 8 under Bush 2 to change the policy/act. So to be clear, I think President's have very little impact on the economy..for instance, I don't ascribe the budget surplus to Clinton and his policies. That being said, I do believe what has impacts are deficits and money policy..and Trump scares me on the deficit side. I do not t hink I am alone there...as matkets tend to look forward 1 year plus...and we be going sideways for the last 6 months. Google Bush 11's many pleas to congress re correcting the CRA problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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