K-9 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 Vegas flu has struck. This one might be over early.
K-9 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 When Eichel decides not to show up, he sucks ass.
plenzmd1 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 7 hours ago, K-9 said: Complete waste of time. Basically, shut out in 3 of 6 games this year.
billsfanmiami(oh) Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 They must have hit the strip hard the last couple days before the game
26CornerBlitz Posted October 17, 2018 Author Posted October 17, 2018 Special teams falter in loss to Golden Knights
K-9 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: Basically, shut out in 3 of 6 games this year. Obviously, Phil knows how to get these boys ready to play.
shrader Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said: Basically, shut out in 3 of 6 games this year. When they lose, they lose badly. It's early, but it's not a good trend so far. My worry from game 1 when they fell behind Boston 2-0 was whether or not this team could play from behind. So far, they've done as poorly as possible in that position. That is what will make or break this season. Edit: I can't do the 10PM games and I didn't watch it. I'm assuming it wouldn't have mattered, but unless he's backing up Hasek himself, I would have been giving Ullmark the start after getting a shutout. Edited October 17, 2018 by shrader
plenzmd1 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 33 minutes ago, shrader said: When they lose, they lose badly. It's early, but it's not a good trend so far. My worry from game 1 when they fell behind Boston 2-0 was whether or not this team could play from behind. So far, they've done as poorly as possible in that position. That is what will make or break this season. Edit: I can't do the 10PM games and I didn't watch it. I'm assuming it wouldn't have mattered, but unless he's backing up Hasek himself, I would have been giving Ullmark the start after getting a shutout. i watched the first period..3x the 2nd and 3rd early this morning. I did not understand going to Hutton either..he was okay. I would take odds on Housley being first to fired...but cant find anyplace, especially Bovada, that will book the bet.
zow2 Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) Housley just doesn't have these guys ready to play too often. He's like the NFL coordinator that just can't cut it as a head coach, but goes back to being a good coordinator. They don't play a puck possession game ever, or a speed game.. They don't have any identity. Edited October 17, 2018 by zow2
JohnC Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, shrader said: When they lose, they lose badly. It's early, but it's not a good trend so far. My worry from game 1 when they fell behind Boston 2-0 was whether or not this team could play from behind. So far, they've done as poorly as possible in that position. That is what will make or break this season. Edit: I can't do the 10PM games and I didn't watch it. I'm assuming it wouldn't have mattered, but unless he's backing up Hasek himself, I would have been giving Ullmark the start after getting a shutout. I DVRed the game but only watched the first period. That's all you needed to see. So I'm not going to waste my time watching garbage. The delete button is going to be used. As others have said it's apparent how this game was going to go after only watching the first period. If they get behind this fragile team's will is easily crushed. In this game the home team had a ferocity and tenacity that the flaccid opposition lacked. Hockey is an effort sport as much, and maybe more, than a skill sport. When you don't have that spark you will consistently lose. Intermittent effort is an indictment of the players and coaches. It gets tiresome to watch. Maybe in the next game this heartless team will exhibit more fire. But that is the problem. It is too often manufactured on a periodic basis.
shrader Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, JohnC said: I DVRed the game but only watched the first period. That's all you needed to see. So I'm not going to waste my time watching garbage. The delete button is going to be used. As others have said it's apparent how this game was going to go after only watching the first period. If they get behind this fragile team's will is easily crushed. In this game the home team had a ferocity and tenacity that the flaccid opposition lacked. Hockey is an effort sport as much, and maybe more, than a skill sport. When you don't have that spark you will consistently lose. Intermittent effort is an indictment of the players and coaches. It gets tiresome to watch. Maybe in the next game this heartless team will exhibit more fire. But that is the problem. It is too often manufactured on a periodic basis. It's amazing how consistent they are so far, even if it's just 6 games. The first goal says everything. If they fall behind, they're immediately done. I don't know how you fix that problem, but it should be blatantly obvious already how they crumble if they give up the first goal. They're going to have to get over that at some point or else we're once again competing for the first overall pick.
JohnC Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, shrader said: It's amazing how consistent they are so far, even if it's just 6 games. The first goal says everything. If they fall behind, they're immediately done. I don't know how you fix that problem, but it should be blatantly obvious already how they crumble if they give up the first goal. They're going to have to get over that at some point or else we're once again competing for the first overall pick. Maybe a Brad Marchand personality on this roster might infuse this team with some passion. The reality is that this is Jack's team. He was angling for the C to be sewn on his jersey. It's there now. He has to lead by example by giving more consistent effort on both sides of the ice. What you see and everyone else sees is apparent to everyone but the players. It's not so much about winning as it is about how you play. The ingredient for a successful team relates to how you play as much as the talent on the ice. The Washington Caps didn't win the Stanley Cup until Ovenckin change from being simply a scorer and stat player to being a leader with a more well rounded game that included the defensive side of the game. That's what Jack has to learn. 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 3 hours ago, JohnC said: I DVRed the game but only watched the first period. That's all you needed to see. So I'm not going to waste my time watching garbage. The delete button is going to be used. As others have said it's apparent how this game was going to go after only watching the first period. If they get behind this fragile team's will is easily crushed. In this game the home team had a ferocity and tenacity that the flaccid opposition lacked. Hockey is an effort sport as much, and maybe more, than a skill sport. When you don't have that spark you will consistently lose. Intermittent effort is an indictment of the players and coaches. It gets tiresome to watch. Maybe in the next game this heartless team will exhibit more fire. But that is the problem. It is too often manufactured on a periodic basis. It's 70-80% coaching. IMO. Talent brings it down... But still over half coaching. These players are only on ice more minute bursts if that. Look what the change from Denis Savard to Coach did for Blackhawks. IMO...
JohnC Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said: It's 70-80% coaching. IMO. Talent brings it down... But still over half coaching. These players are only on ice more minute bursts if that. Look what the change from Denis Savard to Coach did for Blackhawks. IMO... I'm not doubting that coaching is an important factor to success but I'm not accepting the 70-80% difference. Where I agree with you is that there should be a match between the makeup of the roster and the personality and style of the coach. A John Tortorella ogre type coach might be suitable for some teams but his excessively tough style of coaching might not work with a roster full of veterans. There is a reason why he has traveled the circuit in his coaching career. https://wgntv.com/2018/10/17/happy-anniversary-coach-q-celebrating-ten-years-of-joel-quenneville-with-the-blackhawks/ The hiring of Joel Quenneville did jolt that talented team he inherited. But let's not get carried away because although the talent level is much improved from last year this roster is still far from being a complete roster. Right now what this team doesn't need is another coaching change so soon from the last coaching change. Stability has not been the hallmark of the sports organizations that Pegula has owned. Jumping ship too soon can be as much of a mistake as staying on the ship for too long. 1 1
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 17, 2018 Posted October 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, JohnC said: I'm not doubting that coaching is an important factor to success but I'm not accepting the 70-80% difference. Where I agree with you is that there should be a match between the makeup of the roster and the personality and style of the coach. A John Tortorella ogre type coach might be suitable for some teams but his excessively tough style of coaching might not work with a roster full of veterans. There is a reason why he has traveled the circuit in his coaching career. https://wgntv.com/2018/10/17/happy-anniversary-coach-q-celebrating-ten-years-of-joel-quenneville-with-the-blackhawks/ The hiring of Joel Quenneville did jolt that talented team he inherited. But let's not get carried away because although the talent level is much improved from last year this roster is still far from being a complete roster. Right now what this team doesn't need is another coaching change so soon from the last coaching change. Stability has not been the hallmark of the sports organizations that Pegula has owned. Jumping ship too soon can be as much of a mistake as staying on the ship for too long. I see. Thanx for explanation.
26CornerBlitz Posted October 17, 2018 Author Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) I like this pest prospect who has some skill. Edited October 17, 2018 by 26CornerBlitz
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