BillsFan4 Posted September 16, 2018 Posted September 16, 2018 https://wgr550.radio.com/articles/news/sabres-end-first-weekend-training-camp-strong-outing-scrimmage Quote It was a good showing for Dahlin, as the 2018 first overall pick scored twice for Team Blue in the win. Aside from his two goals, the 18-year-old rookie continued to display his excellent tape-to-tape passing skills, his reliable play in his own end, while also skating well with the puck and creating some good offensive possession. "I think his timing has been impeccable," Housley said of his young defenseman. "He jumps into the play at the right time. When he beats a guy, he moves the puck right away and gets it up ice. Overall, I like the way he's developed so far in this camp." So far in the three days of training camp, Dahlin has fully displayed his abilities in all three zones of the ice, as well as his puck skills and vision on the ice. "He's an amazing player. He's gonna be great," said Sabres defenseman Lawrence Pilut on Dahlin after practice. "Just watching him out there today, he does some stuff [where] you have to blink twice. But it's real. He's gonna grow up to be a great player, and playing against his is always hard because you never know where he's gonna go. He's just an amazing player."
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shrader Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 On 9/14/2018 at 12:34 PM, Like A Mofo said: The Colorado Avalanche own Ottawa's first rounder in 2019, and with generational talent Hughes entering the draft, if that hits, what a disaster Ottawa has become. And think just less then two season ago, Ottawa was one bounce from the Stanley Cup Finals. This is why I think the Sabres can turn things around much faster then most expect. The salary cap era that benefits tax healthy regions has created this dynamic. This generational talent label really needs to go away at this point. It doesn't matter how good these players are. If the first pick every single year is generational, the term has lost all meaning. 1
Like A Mofo Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 59 minutes ago, shrader said: This generational talent label really needs to go away at this point. It doesn't matter how good these players are. If the first pick every single year is generational, the term has lost all meaning. I understand what you mean but the Nico and Nolan Patrick draft there wasn't that term: it is entirely possible that the NHL may have a golden era of franchise players coming into the league but most would never know it given the NHL's lack of vision and trying to market these players better.
shrader Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Like A Mofo said: I understand what you mean but the Nico and Nolan Patrick draft there wasn't that term: it is entirely possible that the NHL may have a golden era of franchise players coming into the league but most would never know it given the NHL's lack of vision and trying to market these players better. There's no doubt that there has been a boost in elite NHL ready talent. Even with the 2017 draft, we have now heard the generational talent label applied to 5 players over 5 years (yes, Eichel had it as well). Something's clearly developing here. The thing that really amazes me about it is that only one of them is Canadian. The world as a whole is starting to produce top tier NHL talent. It has to be killing Hockey Canada to see all of those non-Canadian flags in the top 5 of the last couple drafts. It goes really well with your last point there. This game is poised for a big time boom period, if only the league can figure out how to stay out of the way of it.
bbb Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 I never even heard of the term "generational player" until the McDavid/Eichel draft - where we had two, defying all logic.
K-9 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, bbb said: I never even heard of the term "generational player" until the McDavid/Eichel draft - where we had two, defying all logic. Crosby, Lemieux, Gretzky? The next generational player will be identified when we start hearing of an 11 year old doing amazing things against older competition in some junior midget league, in some obscure Canadian hamlet.
bbb Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 Just now, K-9 said: Crosby, Lemieux, Gretzky? The next generational player will be identified when we start hearing of an 11 year old doing amazing things against older competition in some junior midget league, in some obscure Canadian hamlet. Correct - I never heard the term "generational player" applied to them. It seems to be a new term to me.
K-9 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, bbb said: Correct - I never heard the term "generational player" applied to them. It seems to be a new term to me. I can recall that term being applied to Gretzky when he was 16.
shrader Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, K-9 said: I can recall that term being applied to Gretzky when he was 16. I'm with bbb on this one. But then again, maybe once Wayne showed up, they instead just started hyping people as the next Gretzky (no, not you Keith). But then with Crosby, they needed to start using a different reference.
bbb Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, shrader said: I'm with bbb on this one. But then again, maybe once Wayne showed up, they instead just started hyping people as the next Gretzky (no, not you Keith). But then with Crosby, they needed to start using a different reference. This is exactly what I remember hearing. And, I remember hearing Pierre Turgeon was the next Lemieux. That type of thing.
K-9 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, shrader said: I'm with bbb on this one. But then again, maybe once Wayne showed up, they instead just started hyping people as the next Gretzky (no, not you Keith). But then with Crosby, they needed to start using a different reference. GMs and sports writers have been using the term to describe truly exceptional prospects in football, basketball, and hockey since I was a kid. But it was never over-used like it has been for the last 10 years or so. The term has become so watered down it’s almost meaningless. 1
bbb Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 1 minute ago, K-9 said: GMs and sports writers have been using the term to describe truly exceptional prospects in football, basketball, and hockey since I was a kid. But it was never over-used like it has been for the last 10 years or so. The term has become so watered down it’s almost meaningless. Ah, that's where the disconnect is. I'm not a GM
K-9 Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, bbb said: Ah, that's where the disconnect is. I'm not a GM I’m not either. But you can cram your snark, regardless.
Dr. Who Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, K-9 said: GMs and sports writers have been using the term to describe truly exceptional prospects in football, basketball, and hockey since I was a kid. But it was never over-used like it has been for the last 10 years or so. The term has become so watered down it’s almost meaningless. The internet, twitter, cable news, the "echo chamber" effect has really inflated hype. Dahlin actually appears to be a rare talent, but excessive praise (and blame) is now part of the normal mode of rhetorical overreaction that constitutes social communication nowadays. The demotic is never the restrained. 1
bbb Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, K-9 said: I’m not either. But you can cram your snark, regardless. Google comes up with nothing about Gretzky being called one. This is what I'm coming up with as the origin: Ever since the term “generational talent/player” was coined roughly a decade in the 2005 National Hockey League (NHL) Draft, a highly-anticipated draft that produced the current fact of the NHL https://obiter-dicta.ca/2016/11/22/why-landing-a-generational-talentplayer-through-todays-national-hockey-league-draft-is-so-difficult/
Johnny Hammersticks Posted September 17, 2018 Posted September 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, bbb said: Google comes up with nothing about Gretzky being called one. This is what I'm coming up with as the origin: Ever since the term “generational talent/player” was coined roughly a decade in the 2005 National Hockey League (NHL) Draft, a highly-anticipated draft that produced the current fact of the NHL https://obiter-dicta.ca/2016/11/22/why-landing-a-generational-talentplayer-through-todays-national-hockey-league-draft-is-so-difficult/ Really though....who gives a crap?
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