Orlando Buffalo Posted Tuesday at 03:43 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:43 PM 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: How does the fact that the fire was set by an arsonist potentially limit or negate compensation to homeowners from their insurance companies? Unless something is in just California policies it does not change anything unless they themselves were the arsonist or somehow involved. If my neighbor burns down his house intentionally and mine is collateral mine is covered his is not 1
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted Tuesday at 03:45 PM Posted Tuesday at 03:45 PM 12 minutes ago, Andy1 said: I’m sure it all depends on the fine print details of the policy purchased by the home owner. My assumption was you had seen or read something from an official source (California Dept of Insurance, governors office, etc) raising the alarm on this looming crisis. Were you just speculating or guessing? Your “fine print” comments lead to that conclusion. If so, I feel like your comments are blendavious and might lead to confusion.
Orlando Buffalo Posted Tuesday at 04:00 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:00 PM 3 hours ago, Andy1 said: Wait… I thought the government controlled the weather and that’s why they were sending hurricanes into Republican states. And can someone tell me about all the failure of leadership in Republican North Carolina that led to so much damage and death there after Helene? On a serious note, now they are saying that if the fire investigators determine arson to be the cause, that may limit or negate compensation paid to homeowners from their insurance companies. That would absolutely suck. This would be hilarious except for the fact it shows you are not intelligent enough to discuss any of topics you reference. One I appreciate you admitting that no matter how much money we give the government they will never influence the weather or climate. Secondly Helene is a once a century storm, fires are an annual event in California, one you can prep for and one you simply react but NC governor and FEMA have absolutely sucked so far. As for insurance I doubt the state allowed any differentiation between natural fires and arson but if they did these people are truly screwed. 1
B-Man Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM “WHY CAN’T SHE JUST TELL HOMELESS PEOPLE NOT TO BURN STUFF OR SMOKE CRACK?” You know why. Progressive Newspeak is the art of saying what everybody knows in a way that allows them to pretend that they don’t know it.
Motorin' Posted Tuesday at 07:33 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:33 PM 52 minutes ago, B-Man said: . If everyone just tweeted out that Climate Change is real, these fires never would have happened in the first place!
4th&long Posted Tuesday at 08:35 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:35 PM 4 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: This would be hilarious except for the fact it shows you are not intelligent enough to discuss any of topics you reference. One I appreciate you admitting that no matter how much money we give the government they will never influence the weather or climate. Secondly Helene is a once a century storm, fires are an annual event in California, one you can prep for and one you simply react but NC governor and FEMA have absolutely sucked so far. As for insurance I doubt the state allowed any differentiation between natural fires and arson but if they did these people are truly screwed. The fact that you state that the hurricane was a once in a life time storm but Cali wasn't just shows how biased you are and makes anything else you add Irrelevant. I am convinced you isis Sympathizers are happy LA is burning down so you can pounce.
Orlando Buffalo Posted Tuesday at 08:55 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:55 PM 10 minutes ago, 4th&long said: The fact that you state that the hurricane was a once in a life time storm but Cali wasn't just shows how biased you are and makes anything else you add Irrelevant. I am convinced you isis Sympathizers are happy LA is burning down so you can pounce. Prior to 2024 the last time Asheville had a hurricane do major damage was in 1954, which is before half my aunts and uncles were born. The last time Cali had a major fire was last year, and the year before, and the year before and I don't know how many before that because that research is really depressing. BTW most of my aunts and uncles are grandparents now so the fact that two generations happened between one set of events and the other is literally annual should be enough to prove my point but I know you will come back and attack me with something stupid. Once again why are a few thousand gallons of water useful being dropped from a plane but 100million gallons would be worthless right where the fire started? 1
4th&long Posted Tuesday at 09:29 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:29 PM 29 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Prior to 2024 the last time Asheville had a hurricane do major damage was in 1954, which is before half my aunts and uncles were born. The last time Cali had a major fire was last year, and the year before, and the year before and I don't know how many before that because that research is really depressing. BTW most of my aunts and uncles are grandparents now so the fact that two generations happened between one set of events and the other is literally annual should be enough to prove my point but I know you will come back and attack me with something stupid. Once again why are a few thousand gallons of water useful being dropped from a plane but 100million gallons would be worthless right where the fire started? Look it up, figure it out, educate yourself. You are not an expert on it, read what the people who are have to say about it. You done want to know. You just want to B word at our about Cali leaders and act like you know it all. It's obvious you have no idea how stuff works. You are a waste of time. Take the isis flag down. You can't fix anything on your house when it breaks can you?
Orlando Buffalo Posted Tuesday at 10:28 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:28 PM 57 minutes ago, 4th&long said: Look it up, figure it out, educate yourself. You are not an expert on it, read what the people who are have to say about it. You done want to know. You just want to B word at our about Cali leaders and act like you know it all. It's obvious you have no idea how stuff works. You are a waste of time. Take the isis flag down. You can't fix anything on your house when it breaks can you? Actually I am very handy, I have not had to pay for a repair on my house in the 23 years I have lived here, unless you count the roof. I don't mess with electrical and limit my plumbing exposure but I am competent. As for my direct question your clearly agree that there is no reasonable logical answer to that question.
4th&long Posted Tuesday at 11:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:01 PM 21 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Actually I am very handy, I have not had to pay for a repair on my house in the 23 years I have lived here, unless you count the roof. I don't mess with electrical and limit my plumbing exposure but I am competent. As for my direct question your clearly agree that there is no reasonable logical answer to that question. I don't agree that is why I told you to look it up. I won't answer because you don't really want to know, you just want to argue and blame and make Newsome look bad. For what? Because he might run for pres in 2028? Sad. Someone is running. If he is incompetent and at fault it will come out. In the mean time you are making yourself look foolish. Try to do the pluming you will only get wet. Electrical I Willput in ceiling fans and lights and small jobs but anything bigger I'll call someone. Thankfully we have a roofing company in the family. I helped him redo our roof. But I don't blame you, don't touch the roof, that job sucks. But those guys make good money.
Andy1 Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM Posted yesterday at 01:01 AM 9 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: My assumption was you had seen or read something from an official source (California Dept of Insurance, governors office, etc) raising the alarm on this looming crisis. Were you just speculating or guessing? Your “fine print” comments lead to that conclusion. If so, I feel like your comments are blendavious and might lead to confusion. For the record…. I was not reporting official information from the state but discussion from reporters. I made no claims and certainly hope there is nothing to it. I am just always skeptical about the response of insurance companies. They have a reputation for denying claims based on the details of policy wording, all being legal. Just see reports from the people in FL trying to rebuild after hurricanes. Time will tell… 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted yesterday at 01:47 AM Posted yesterday at 01:47 AM 45 minutes ago, Andy1 said: For the record…. I was not reporting official information from the state but discussion from reporters. I made no claims and certainly hope there is nothing to it. I am just always skeptical about the response of insurance companies. They have a reputation for denying claims based on the details of policy wording, all being legal. Just see reports from the people in FL trying to rebuild after hurricanes. Time will tell… What situations in FL are you discussing?
daz28 Posted yesterday at 01:53 AM Posted yesterday at 01:53 AM On 1/12/2025 at 6:07 PM, Biden is Mentally Fit said: You believe, as per your earlier words, that outrage over the historic damage being caused by wildfires, is related to Trump’s election. Let that sink in as you go on pretending to be non-partisan. Pitiful. Uh, You're not even allowed to call anyone partisan as a bad word. Your name alone disqualifies your judgement on such matters. As for the meat and potatoes here, you conveniently left out the all-important 'FOX'S COVERAGE' part. Need an example? Instead of them saying 'report released, here's a link decide for yourself', their headline was: "Jack Smith report grilled as 'partisan' lawfare attempt: 'Prosecution on paper'". Certainly, no bias there, huh? On 1/12/2025 at 6:36 PM, Doc said: Have you ever voted for a Republican? And yeah, I remember seeing the MSM stop the Wuhan death counters once Biden took Office. Ignoring there was a crisis at the border and blaming it on Republicans "pouncing." That Biden wasn't senile and it was "cheap fakes." That there was no inflation and it was transitory. It's what happens, except the Dems have (or at least had) a lot of mouthpieces. And not sure what your issue is here. It's a fact that they made firetrucks from fire stations in Oregon wait to pass their inspections when time was of the essence. That just tells me that they have no clue about the real world. Nope, I have a clear understanding that both political parties have their own media to slant the 'news'.
daz28 Posted yesterday at 01:59 AM Posted yesterday at 01:59 AM On 1/12/2025 at 10:09 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Imagine one of the most influential and experienced politicians over the past 5 decades removing, retaining, recklessly, intentionally, and carelessly handling classified/top secret documents over, and over, and over, and over….and his true believers seemingly suggesting said politician is the real hero of the tale. This is yet another reason your team got skunked in November, Daz. It’s preposterous. So you're against independent special counsel gathering facts, and the president keeping his nose out of it??? Cool story bro. As for the mandate, landslide, and "skunking", they have a 2 man lead in the House, 3 man adv in Senate, and a roughly 1% average win in three states that could have swung the presidential election. Keep repeating clear blatant misinformation, because that's how they REALLY barely won.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted yesterday at 02:01 AM Posted yesterday at 02:01 AM 50 minutes ago, Andy1 said: For the record…. I was not reporting official information from the state but discussion from reporters. I made no claims and certainly hope there is nothing to it. I am just always skeptical about the response of insurance companies. They have a reputation for denying claims based on the details of policy wording, all being legal. Just see reports from the people in FL trying to rebuild after hurricanes. Time will tell… I may in the minority here, but reporters discussing that people will not receive payment when an arsonist starts a fire that damages someone else’s home seems irresponsible. As for not paying for things that aren’t covered based on policy wording, isn’t that actually doing what they should? Or, should they make an exception based on this tragedy, and pay for damages not covered by the policy?
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted yesterday at 03:12 AM Posted yesterday at 03:12 AM 58 minutes ago, daz28 said: So you're against independent special counsel gathering facts, and the president keeping his nose out of it??? Cool story bro. As for the mandate, landslide, and "skunking", they have a 2 man lead in the House, 3 man adv in Senate, and a roughly 1% average win in three states that could have swung the presidential election. Keep repeating clear blatant misinformation, because that's how they REALLY barely won. I’m against the sort of silliness we’ve seen over classified documents since 2015, where some are treated with white gloves and a recognition that keeping/maintaining/exposing/sharing classified docs is pretty much business as usual while kicking down doors and looking to imprison others for life. But listen—-the DOJ needs people in the stooge class nodding about how it all really, really actually makes perfect sense, and you might find comfort hiding in the soft middle of that crowd. That’s fine. As for the skunking, you’ve probably provided me with a lot to think about. Good stuff. Thanks.
daz28 Posted yesterday at 04:03 AM Posted yesterday at 04:03 AM 40 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’m against the sort of silliness we’ve seen over classified documents since 2015, where some are treated with white gloves and a recognition that keeping/maintaining/exposing/sharing classified docs is pretty much business as usual while kicking down doors and looking to imprison others for life. But listen—-the DOJ needs people in the stooge class nodding about how it all really, really actually makes perfect sense, and you might find comfort hiding in the soft middle of that crowd. That’s fine. As for the skunking, you’ve probably provided me with a lot to think about. Good stuff. Thanks. I agree that they have botched the whole classified documents thing, going back to Hillary servers and before that. Having independent special counsels to gather facts, or what they consider to be, is the best thing they've done. Completely pissed that there are efforts to keep those reports from the people, so they can make up their own minds, is a problem that isn't being discussed. How they handle prosecutions is one thing we can judge. How they handle the information, and if we're allowed to access it is another. Right after removing all the fact checkers on social media was praised, this is how they reacted to this: In a letter to Garland, Trump's lawyers said the dropped charges were a "complete exoneration" of the president-elect. They called the release of Smith's report "imprudent and unlawful" and said it would "perpetuate false and discredited accusations.” Thanks guys, but I'd like to make that decision myself, based on the report, rather than take your word for it.
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