California (again)

[US Egg]

Local TV affiliates in LA reporting is more tempered than earlier. Less “man on the street” rants. It’s getting worse. 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[4th&long]

2 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-gov-newsom-orders-independent-investigation-after-hydrants-run-dry-we-need-answers

 

Apparently Newsome is a right wing extremist now. Seriously though if you can't see how messed up this situation is and how no one is in charge of the actual job they are paid to do you are not being honest. The top 3 fire people don't know how to fight fires, the lady in charge of the water doesn't know how it works, and no one has a plan to stop it. I just heard that the damage from this fire is more than the total insurance  reserves for the entire state currently held, which means a lot of companies are simply going to declare bankruptcy if true. 

Didn't I say yesterday I am not shocked that govt can fail people? Yes I believe I did. 

 

Hydrants are not ment to fight those fires alone. Ketone who is an actual worker, not a politician, said it was no surprise that the water tanks in those areas went dry because water was being pulled out of them faster then they fill up. A hydrant is meant to um put out A HOUSE FIRE. not four fires that are raging at the same time being fed by Hurricane force winds burning down 10,000 houses at once! There main source of fighting these fires is from the air, did you see any planes in the air the first two days or so? No! Why? Because of the 100mph winds. A normal honest person would see this and acknowledge it. Not a lying Maga teacher who has no concept of how things actually work. 

 

If you want to make fire hydrants that are able to fight 4 or 5 brush fires at the same time it sounds like they need to invent or invest in a pump system to refills the tanks faster than they are being depleted. Obviously the engineers who designed that system didn't envision 4 different fires going at the Sammy time burning down multiple city blocks with thousands of people running garden hoses with lord knows how many being tapped at the same time because the had no air support to fight these fires in hurricane forces winds. 

3 hours ago, Doc said:

 

When a disaster hits a Republican state, Dems are the first to blame the leadership.  When a disaster hits a Dem state, Dems decry the leadership being blamed/look for others to blame.

Fake news. 

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

Didn't I say yesterday I am not shocked that govt can fail people? Yes I believe I did. 

 

Hydrants are not ment to fight those fires alone. Ketone who is an actual worker, not a politician, said it was no surprise that the water tanks in those areas went dry because water was being pulled out of them faster then they fill up. A hydrant is meant to um put out A HOUSE FIRE. not four fires that are raging at the same time being fed by Hurricane force winds burning down 10,000 houses at once! There main source of fighting these fires is from the air, did you see any planes in the air the first two days or so? No! Why? Because of the 100mph winds. A normal honest person would see this and acknowledge it. Not a lying Maga teacher who has no concept of how things actually work. 

 

If you want to make fire hydrants that are able to fight 4 or 5 brush fires at the same time it sounds like they need to invent or invest in a pump system to refills the tanks faster than they are being depleted. Obviously the engineers who designed that system didn't envision 4 different fires going at the Sammy time burning down multiple city blocks with thousands of people running garden hoses with lord knows how many being tapped at the same time because the had no air support to fight these fires in hurricane forces winds. 

Fake news. 

 

Nope and you're doing exactly what I'm saying.  California's had wildfires for decades.  This isn't a new problem.  This should have been solved decades ago.

[4th&long]

2 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

What in the actual hell do you think that fire hydrants are for? Last time i checked, they were intended to be more than a shiny thing for dogs to pee on.

 

https://blazequel.com/fire-fighting-equipment/hydrants-and-risers/fire-hydrants/

 

They are intended to help with residential fires. If you have been paying attention, you may have noticed that HOMES are burning.

 

PS: Forest has one R. Maybe you shouldn't be in this conversation. Unless you were telling us that you thought Forrest Gump was starting the fires.

Hydrants were not meant to fight that many fires at one time on that many houses. That comes from a city engineers, not politicians. They said they were not surprised they ran dry. I will take their word over some Maga dude on a message board. 

3 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Nope and you're doing exactly what I'm saying.  California's had wildfires for decades.  This isn't a new problem.  This should have been solved decades ago.

Florida has had hurricanes for years they should have that problem solved but now. 

 

You have said some stupid stuff on here but this takes the cake!!! Indian people are smart what happened to you? Your parents must be proud lol! 

[4th&long]

4 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

 

Nobody believes right wing bull ***** Twitter. Cesspool of lies just like the liar in chief you all worship. Such trash. 

[Doc]

12 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

Florida has had hurricanes for years they should have that problem solved but now. 

 

You have said some stupid stuff on here but this takes the cake!!! Indian people are smart what happened to you? Your parents must be proud lol! 

 

Yes, nothing can top the intelligence of "fire hydrants aren't meant to fight fires." 

[4th&long]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Yes, nothing can top the intelligence of "fire hydrants aren't meant to fight fires." 

That size fires? No. Did you think that water tank by your house has an endless spy of water? How fast do you think it refills? Up hill? You dishonest Maga scum of the earth won't acknowledge that. 

[dgrochester55]

20 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

Hydrants were not meant to fight that many fires at one time on that many houses. That comes from a city engineers, not politicians. They said they were not surprised they ran dry. I will take their word over some Maga dude on a message board. 

Florida has had hurricanes for years they should have that problem solved but now. 

 

You have said some stupid stuff on here but this takes the cake!!! Indian people are smart what happened to you? Your parents must be proud lol! 

 

I am not a MAGA, I am in the center, but lefties piss me off much more often than MAGAs do. You seem incapable of carrying on a conversation without doling out childish insults, so you are the last person to have any business throwing stones at anyone else for intelligence.

 

I am pretty sure that you either cherry picked or took out of context what the city engineer said, but who cares.  No one in their right mind is going to try and say that working fire hydrants would not have made a difference.  You are just so blinded by hatred that you will cast aside any common sense and rationality that gets in the way of your narrative.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 09:21 PM by dgrochester55

[Doc]

1 minute ago, 4th&long said:

That size fires? No. Did you think that water tank by your house has an endless spy of water? How fast do you think it refills? Up hill? You dishonest Maga scum of the earth won't acknowledge that. 

 

Tell it to the people of LA.  They're pissed at the level of incompetence and lack of accountability and they're all libs.

[US Egg]

Reporter on KACL just stated that they will no longer be reporting on the looting. 

[BillsFanNC]

Fire hydrants are only for residential fires!

 

   -4th&schlong

 

10k+ structures, mostly in residential areas, destroyed by fire in LA.

 

Biden is mentally fit and reliable media were VERY high bars, but 4th found a way.

 

 

[4th&long]

1 minute ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

I am not a MAGA, I am in the center, but lefties piss me off much more often than MAGAs do. You seem incapable of carrying on a conversation without doling out childish insults, so you are the last person to have any business throwing stones at anyone else for intelligence.

 

I am pretty sure that you either cherry picked or took out of context what the city engineer said, but who cares.  No one in their right mind is going to try and say that working fire hydrants would not have made a difference.  You are just blinded by hatred that you will cast aside any common sense and rationality that gets in the way of your narrative.

I didn't say they wouldn't have made a difference. Post it I'll wait. I posted what the engineer said. He was not surprised the tanks ran out because they were not meant to fight fires that size, water was being drained faster than they filled up. Look it up. I don't care if you believe it or not, makes no difference to me. 

I call people names because I have been called every name in the book on here. People want respect they need to give it. It's a two way street. I will not show respect if I don't get it. Do I like to call people names? No, not really but I will play in the mud. 

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, US Egg said:

Reporter on KACL just stated that they will no longer be reporting on the looting. 

 

It must be bad.

[US Egg]

Just now, Doc said:

It must be bad.

Apparently they are being inundated with calls reporting, texted videos, etc., of "instances".  

[4th&long]

14 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Tell it to the people of LA.  They're pissed at the level of incompetence and lack of accountability and they're all libs.

I'm sure they are pissed. I'm sure there is a lot of blame to go around and some hard truths will come to light. Just like Texas with their power grid. They didn't want to be hooked up to the national grid, where did that get them in their winter storm a few years ago when their grid went down and people froze to death. I think most of the country's infrastructure is outdated. If other areas of the country had extreme weather events like Cali or Texas the outdated infrastructure would be exposed. 

 

I have no dog in the fight, I don't care about Newsome or any LA city leaders. I'm just sick of trump and Maga lies especially when it comes to natural disasters. It's he trying to claim females out of money again?

[4th&long]

21 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Fire hydrants are only for residential fires!

 

   -4th&schlong

 

10k+ structures, mostly in residential areas, destroyed by fire in LA.

 

Biden is mentally fit and reliable media were VERY high bars, but 4th found a way.

 

 

Ain't no one believing the right wing bull#### you post. 

 

Once again for the right wing lying dishonest scum Maga that is to stupid to understand English. Did I day hydrants aren't meant to fight fires? No. I said, (what I read in an article) that they were not meant to fight fires of that size, not forest fires. Now that the city has burnt down would probably be a good time to upgrade the infrastructure. If they didn't envisionfires this bad whenever it was put in they got a front row seat now. 

Edited Saturday at 09:47 PM by 4th&long

[Andy1]

5 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

There’s a lot packed in here, but you hit the nail on the head:  the local, city and state government is tasked with enacting laws and regulation to best serve and protect members of the community.  In many cases, these people were elected by the people they represent.  The question of competence v incompetence is a fair one to ask. It is exceedingly painful to have the debate while people are being impacted in such a horrific way, but if not now, when? 

The mistake that many are making here on PPP is thinking that this disaster is unique to the Dem politicians in CA. The mismatch of infrastructure to needs to respond to a disaster is not unique to CA. CA is under the microscope just because this time, the disaster happened there. In North Carolina, 104 people died from the floods caused by hurricane Helene with 54 billion $ in damage. All over America, in red and blue states, people are living in places of high risk, with emergency response capabilities inadequate to the increasing severity of potential disasters. Infrastructure everywhere needs upgrading to be adequate for the changing climate. Building high density housing with flammable materials and landscape vegetation in fire prone ecosystems is a dumb idea. New homes and buildings in CA survived the fires due to use of more fire proof materials. 

[Orlando Buffalo]

1 hour ago, 4th&long said:

Didn't I say yesterday I am not shocked that govt can fail people? Yes I believe I did. 

 

Hydrants are not ment to fight those fires alone. Ketone who is an actual worker, not a politician, said it was no surprise that the water tanks in those areas went dry because water was being pulled out of them faster then they fill up. A hydrant is meant to um put out A HOUSE FIRE. not four fires that are raging at the same time being fed by Hurricane force winds burning down 10,000 houses at once! There main source of fighting these fires is from the air, did you see any planes in the air the first two days or so? No! Why? Because of the 100mph winds. A normal honest person would see this and acknowledge it. Not a lying Maga teacher who has no concept of how things actually work. 

 

If you want to make fire hydrants that are able to fight 4 or 5 brush fires at the same time it sounds like they need to invent or invest in a pump system to refills the tanks faster than they are being depleted. Obviously the engineers who designed that system didn't envision 4 different fires going at the Sammy time burning down multiple city blocks with thousands of people running garden hoses with lord knows how many being tapped at the same time because the had no air support to fight these fires in hurricane forces winds. 

So if you agree that the government is too blame for this response what are we arguing about? 

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, Orlando Buffalo said:

So if you agree that the government is too blame for this response what are we arguing about? 

They believe the same government, and more of it, is the solution.....