row_33 Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 Some Bruins and Patriots chose not to go to the White House.
Buftex Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Well, I was alive in 2011, so I remember. The correct answer was "regardless of the point Sam Bee was trying to make, her language was classless, gross, and unacceptable" But after protesting that you aren't a liberal defending Sam B, you defended Sam B. Inject it into my veins! I wasn't defending Sam B, just explaining the difference in her comment, and what Roseanne said. One was making a political point, the other just making an ignorant joke. The offense in B's comment came from the word she used, not the point she was making. Edited June 6, 2018 by Buftex 1
BringBackOrton Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Buftex said: I wasn't defending Sam B, just explaining the difference in her comment, and what Roseanne said. One was making a political point, the other just making an ignorant joke. The offense in B's comment came from the word she used, not the point she was making. The distinction is irrelevant. Both comments should not have been made as they were stated. Period. Edited June 6, 2018 by BringBackOrton 1
DC Tom Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 13 minutes ago, row_33 said: Some Bruins and Patriots chose not to go to the White House. But that's different, because it was racist! You must present yourself to Black Caesar when summoned. Tangerine Caesar, not so much.
Buftex Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackOrton said: The distinction is irrelevant. Both comments should not have been made as they were stated. Period. So funny how things like this are cut and dry, yet conservatives (trumpers) will defend a president who says ****ty things on a daily basis, saying "don't pay attention to what he says, pay attention to what he is doing". Apparently, you can have it both ways. 2
row_33 Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, DC Tom said: But that's different, because it was racist! You must present yourself to Black Caesar when summoned. Tangerine Caesar, not so much. i farted i laughed so hard there....
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: But that's different, because it was racist! You must present yourself to Black Caesar when summoned. Tangerine Caesar, not so much. That was last year, when Trump was in office. But people have been skipping since the Clinton era, this happens all the time. It's just 45 who had a temper tantrum over it.
row_33 Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Buftex said: So funny how things like this are cut and dry, yet conservatives (trumpers) will defend a president who says ****ty things on a daily basis, saying "don't pay attention to what he says, pay attention to what he is doing". Apparently, you can have it both ways. Conservatives don't worship the President. We have barely tolerated any of them. Reagan is the only one since 1900 with admiration by most Conservatives. Trump doesn't have the kind of support that Liberals seem to transfer from their worship of Hillary and Obama. We can keep telling you this another 1,000 times I guess... you should listen when people talk to you.... start today... 9 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: That was last year, when Trump was in office. But people have been skipping since the Clinton era, this happens all the time. It's just 45 who had a temper tantrum over it. it worked, another pointless fake news item to throw a tantrum and yell about. red herring #146
DC Tom Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: That was last year, when Trump was in office. But people have been skipping since the Clinton era, this happens all the time. It's just 45 who had a temper tantrum over it. Breaking News: Trump is a petulant six year old. But during the Obama administration, athletes such as Tim Thomas were pilloried as racist for refusing to visit the White House. Just not by Obama himself. I do hope, though, that Trump kills this silly practice once and for all. Even a childish fit of pique can accidentally result in something reasonable.
B-Man Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Breaking News: Trump is a petulant six year old. But during the Obama administration, athletes such as Tim Thomas were pilloried as racist for refusing to visit the White House. Just not by Obama himself. I do hope, though, that Trump kills this silly practice once and for all. Even a childish fit of pique can accidentally result in something reasonable. EVERYONE knows this, but libs keep throwing it out there, like we are supposed to change our minds about policy because of it AMEN. .
row_33 Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 If Trump went on strike and refused to spoonfeed red herrings to the mass media, they'd have nothing to report. Trump Shrugged?
BringBackOrton Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, Buftex said: So funny how things like this are cut and dry, yet conservatives (trumpers) will defend a president who says ****ty things on a daily basis, saying "don't pay attention to what he says, pay attention to what he is doing". Apparently, you can have it both ways. You can't have it both ways dopey. That's my whole !@#$ing point.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 31 minutes ago, B-Man said: EVERYONE knows this, but libs keep throwing it out there, like we are supposed to change our minds about policy because of it AMEN. . I'm a lib and I'm all for it. I honestly don't give a hot ****. I honestly don't care if they play the anthem or not. I am just amazed at the massive clutching of pearls over the whole thing.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I'm a lib and I'm all for it. I honestly don't give a hot ****. I honestly don't care if they play the anthem or not. I am just amazed at the massive clutching of pearls over the whole thing. Because no one arguing about this really cares about the issue. It's a political wedge issue, designed to take shots at Trump (if you're of that persuasion) or shots against Trump's opponents (if you're that persuasion). It's a talking point designed to distract and divide. Nothing more.
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Because no one arguing about this really cares about the issue. It's a political wedge issue, designed to take shots at Trump (if you're of that persuasion) or shots against Trump's opponents (if you're that persuasion). It's a talking point designed to distract and divide. Nothing more. IDK, I personally think that a sitting politician using the weight of his office to pressure private industry to alter their policies is troubling. Especially when he seems to have vindictive, petty personal reasons for doing so.
Deranged Rhino Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 1 minute ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: IDK, I personally think that a sitting politician using the weight of his office to pressure private industry to alter their policies is troubling. Especially when he seems to have vindictive, petty personal reasons for doing so. The NFL didn't change their policies because of Trump. They changed their policy because they're bleeding viewers and were trying to protect their bottom line. This is a wedge issue - you know how you can tell? No one is even TALKING about the original reason for the protests anymore. Only Trump's reaction to it. It's intent is to divide and distract, nothing more.
DC Tom Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: I'm a lib and I'm all for it. I honestly don't give a hot ****. I honestly don't care if they play the anthem or not. I am just amazed at the massive clutching of pearls over the whole thing. To be clear: I was talking about ending the practice of gladiators presenting themselves to the emperor. He's the president. He's a fellow citizen, "first among equals." You DON'T have to present yourself when called. 2
Tiberius Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 50 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Breaking News: Trump is a petulant six year old. But during the Obama administration, athletes such as Tim Thomas were pilloried as racist for refusing to visit the White House. Just not by Obama himself. I do hope, though, that Trump kills this silly practice once and for all. Even a childish fit of pique can accidentally result in something reasonable. It's reasonable to kill the practice? That's stupid. 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: The NFL didn't change their policies because of Trump. They changed their policy because they're bleeding viewers and were trying to protect their bottom line. This is a wedge issue - you know how you can tell? No one is even TALKING about the original reason for the protests anymore. Only Trump's reaction to it. It's intent is to divide and distract, nothing more. Ya, since Trump made it about patriotism rather than police shooting unarmed black citizens. Wonder why he changed the subject?? 1
Deranged Rhino Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 Proving my point... This is a sideshow issue for those interested in either distracting you from real issues or dividing you. Nothing more. Everyone has the right to protest in this country. Every private company has the right to deal with said protests in a manner they deem best. Every citizen, even POTUS, has a right to voice an opinion on all of the above. Those pushing this story now are doing so at the disservice to the original cause.
Buftex Posted June 6, 2018 Posted June 6, 2018 1 hour ago, row_33 said: Conservatives don't worship the President. We have barely tolerated any of them. Reagan is the only one since 1900 with admiration by most Conservatives. Trump doesn't have the kind of support that Liberals seem to transfer from their worship of Hillary and Obama. We can keep telling you this another 1,000 times I guess... you should listen when people talk to you.... start today... But your completely full of **** on this topic. So why would I listen to you? If you just came out and said, "we are all hypocrites" your arguments would have more credibility. 1
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