Kirby Jackson Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 Tyrod Fitz Orton Bledsoe EJ Holcomb Johnson Losman Edwards Van Pelt 1
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Tyrod Fitz Orton Bledsoe EJ Holcomb Johnson Losman Edwards Van Pelt I might flip Orton and Fitz, but otherwise I agree
DasNootz Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 Great topic. I don't think it's ever been covered before. 1) Kyle Orton - stone cold killer of defenses, bourbon and virginity 2) Bledsoe - short window of good-great in Buffalo 3) Fitzgerald - Jeckyl and Hyde - the gunslinger everyone wanted, until they realized what a gunslinger means 4) Tyrod - got us to the playoffs, but I think anyone of the three above would have gotten us there too. .......everybody else.
DrDawkinstein Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Bledsoe sucked. Its Tyrod and then honestly I'd probably go Orton. I dont have the love for Tyrod that others here do. To me, he was a RB who sometimes managed to get over his fear of throwing the ball when he was lucky enough to spot a wide open receiver. He didnt turn the ball over, and could make plays with his feet, but he wast the QB we wanted or deserved. When Bledsoe had his WRs and a little protection, he threw for 4300 yds and we went from 28th in scoring to 6th in scoring his first year. He was the best true definition of a QB we had this millennium. JMO. 1
Alphadawg7 Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsRdue said: perhaps, but Edwards pre- or post concussion... pre- he's ahead, post, below. That Arizona hit was the death of him. Thats an old wives tale. He was the same guy before and after the concussion. People just thought he was worse because the euphoria of Trent beating literally the worst teams in the NFL on marginal play at best wore off, and that marginal play no longer could win games. So people thought he changed. The TRUTH is, our defense and ST were more important in that 4-0 start than Trent was. I was on this board telling everyone when we were 4-0 that we would not make the playoffs if Trent kept playing the way he was. Got flamed to no end...then he and the offense continue to not be very good and we missed the playoffs as predicted. Then everyone wants to make the excuse of the concussion to cover up them missing the glaring issues in Trents game when they drank the Kool-aid of a 4-0 start and OVER credited Trent with that. Case in point: In the 4-0 start before his concussion game 5: Only had 4 TD's against 4 of the worst teams in the NFL...only 1 in each game Averaged just 237 yards per game. People still overly romanticize to this day that 4-0 start, when in reality, he wasn't playing that great and we had quite a few turnovers, defensive TD's and ST TD's that actually won those games for us because Trent and the offense were not doing very well. At no point was Trent ever "good" in his career.
Big Gun Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 5 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Rob Johnson Alex Van Pelt Drew Bledsoe JP Losman Kelly Holcomb Trent Edwards Ryan Fitzpatrick EJ Manuel Kyle Orton Tyrod Taylor Left out those who were never considered anything but backups filling in for injuries (Lewis, Tuel, etc.) and of course Cassel technically starting the first game. Rank Em. OMG, what a horrible list. 2
DrDawkinstein Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: Bledsoe had an 8 game stretch where he was among the best QBs in the league. Then he fell off a cliff. Go rewatch his 2003 season. It was god awful. He was terrible and should've been released following that season. You are like a lot of Bills fans on here. Too much obsession and need for the QB to be a traditional pocket passer and it clouds your judgement of Tyrod. He's not a good passer. But he's not bad either and makes plays with his feet with what he lacks with his arm while sustaining drives and keeping the offense turnover free for the most part. I'm happy to be in that group that wants the person playing QB to actually be able to do the job properly. Doesnt cloud my judgement of Tyrod at all. I put him around the 16th QB in the league. Not bad, but not good enough. It's a passing league, the QB passes the ball, he basically refuses to pass, and you said it yourself, he isnt a good passer. 1
Gray Beard Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 If people are willing to say that Bledsoe should be first on the list because he was good for about eight games, then why not say Fitz should be first on the list because he was good for about eight games? I was never a fan of Bledsoe. Immobile pocket passer. I found it easier to root for Fitz. Obviously, the fact that I liked to root for Fitz doesn’t make him better. I’m just surprised that so many people put Bledsoe first with a qualification that it was based on half of a season. 1
Kirby Jackson Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Gray Beard said: If people are willing to say that Bledsoe should be first on the list because he was good for about eight games, then why not say Fitz should be first on the list because he was good for about eight games? I was never a fan of Bledsoe. Immobile pocket passer. I found it easier to root for Fitz. Obviously, the fact that I liked to root for Fitz doesn’t make him better. I’m just surprised that so many people put Bledsoe first with a qualification that it was based on half of a season. I’ve posted the Bledsoe stats on here a bunch. After the first 8 games in a Bills uniform he had a losing record, about 1 TD to 1 INT, a ton of fumbles and averaged 195 yards passing a game. If you pull out his first 8 games a strong case could be made that he belongs near the bottom of the list. I put him at a distant 4th. He’s the player though that Bills fans remember way more fondly than they should.
Dadonkadonk Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Tyrod Taylor Drew Bledsoe Ryan Fitzpatrick EJ Manuel Rob Johnson Trent Edwards Alex Van Pelt JP Losman Kyle Orton Kelly Holcomb
NoName Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 I wish Doug Flutie was included on this list. It owuld have been interesting to see if people ranked him above or below Tyrod?
ProcessAccepted Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 5 hours ago, DasNootz said: Great topic. I don't think it's ever been covered before. 1) Kyle Orton - stone cold killer of defenses, bourbon and virginity 2) Bledsoe - short window of good-great in Buffalo 3) Fitzgerald - Jeckyl and Hyde - the gunslinger everyone wanted, until they realized what a gunslinger means 4) Tyrod - got us to the playoffs, but I think anyone of the three above would have gotten us there too. .......everybody else. But then again they didn't 19 minutes ago, NoName said: I wish Doug Flutie was included on this list. It owuld have been interesting to see if people ranked him above or below Tyrod? Flutie would be above Tyrod because he got us to the playoffs multiple times and this is not a drought QB. 9 hours ago, dneveu said: Tyrod Bledsoe Fitz Orton Edwards Manuel Losman Johnson Holcomb AVP I'd love to hear the reasons you rank EJ higher than JP
frostbitmic Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Tyrod - QB of record to end the drought Bledsoe - Had 8 good games for us ... Sad Fitz - Hall of famer if he had a coach that would bench him after the 3rd Quarter. Orton - It gets worse from here Losman - Threw a nice long ball but couldn't hit anything within 20 yards Robosack - Not as bad as most have him ... Not good either Van Pelt - I barely remember him playing Holcomb - I don't remember him playing for the Bills ... More than likely that's a good thing Manuel - Great guy, hard worker, awful at QB'n Edwards - One play sums him up ... 4th and about 8, about 2 minutes to play, down by a couple points, and what does he do ? ... He runs out of bounds. That was the day that Trent Edwards started wearing a skirt. At least throw up a 4th quarter Fitz type pass. Maybe someone on the Bills would've caught it.
Doc Brown Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) Quite a list there. You could flip a coin with Bledsoe and Taylor as they both played the same number of years and were average starting quarterbacks albeit different playing styles. The rest were below average starters/backups. I'll give Bledsoe the nod because he made the pro bowl straight up (not as an alternate) his first year. So..... Bledsoe Taylor Fitzpatrick Edwards Orton Johnson Losman Manuel Holcomb Van Pelt Edited June 1, 2018 by Doc Brown
habes1280 Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 11 hours ago, dneveu said: Tyrod Bledsoe Fitz Orton Edwards Manuel Losman Johnson Holcomb AVP Pretty spot on. Seconded.
mileena Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said: Rob Johnson Alex Van Pelt Drew Bledsoe JP Losman Kelly Holcomb Trent Edwards Ryan Fitzpatrick EJ Manuel Kyle Orton Tyrod Taylor Left out those who were never considered anything but backups filling in for injuries (Lewis, Tuel, etc.) and of course Cassel technically starting the first game. Rank Em. SMH. Johnson and AVP do not belong here. Stop it with the drought posts. And you forgot Matt Cassel, Thad Lewis, Jeff Tuel, and Brian Brohm. Edited June 1, 2018 by mileena
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